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Old 20 March 2021, 07:13 AM   #151
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here you go...
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Old 20 March 2021, 07:14 AM   #152
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What is the new thickness of the 41 ROC with inhouse movement?
There is no official info yet, but new movement is 1.4 mm thicker then the old one... so I guess 12.4-12.6...
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Old 20 March 2021, 07:24 AM   #153
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There is no official info yet, but new movement is 1.4 mm thicker then the old one... so I guess 12.4-12.6...

THANKS for the reply. That sounds about right with the new exhibition case back too.
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Old 20 March 2021, 11:00 AM   #154
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THANKS for the reply. That sounds about right with the new exhibition case back too.
That’s gonna be a thick boy then. We’re talking almost 13mm total if things get hefty. That’s ROO territory of thickness...
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Old 20 March 2021, 11:58 AM   #155
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It looks like the yellow gold green dial ROC will be with the old movement ... so I assume the steel ones will be the same? What about the frosted?
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Old 20 March 2021, 12:11 PM   #156
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It looks like the yellow gold green dial ROC will be with the old movement ... so I assume the steel ones will be the same? What about the frosted?

Steel will be updated with new movement in the future for sure.
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Old 20 March 2021, 06:18 PM   #157
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If you missed the dates of availability

Diver - May 2021.
TT Code - May 2021.
ROO Flying Tourbillon - June 2021.
ROO - September 2021.
ROC - September 2021.
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Old 20 March 2021, 11:35 PM   #158
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If you missed the dates of availability

Diver - May 2021.
TT Code - May 2021.
ROO Flying Tourbillon - June 2021.
ROO - September 2021.
ROC - September 2021.
Thanks !!
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Old 21 March 2021, 03:40 AM   #159
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That’s gonna be a thick boy then. We’re talking almost 13mm total if things get hefty. That’s ROO territory of thickness...
That is horrible, the thickness of a watch makes the watch seem dated. That look is out.

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Old 21 March 2021, 04:10 AM   #160
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That is horrible, the thickness of a watch makes the watch seem dated. That look is out.

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Agree on it being a negative if it's thicker. 12.5-13mm would not be terrible as it's not exactly a small watch overall, and for some the inhouse will outweigh the thickness, but it would detract from the package for me personally. Owning a 26331 I might be talking my own book but I would prefer the slimmer case.

I'm not considering the change as I'm am happy with my panda ROC but many will say the inhouse is a big win for the line and overlook the increase in thickness.

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Old 21 March 2021, 05:22 AM   #161
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That is horrible, the thickness of a watch makes the watch seem dated. That look is out.

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I also don’t know about the new subdial layout. The date window really got pushed outward, the subdials are more spread out from the center which compressed the hour markers. The 2-4 and 8-10 hour markers are now different lengths which is off setting.

I guess we’re going to have to see it in the metal before making a final judgment but to me the current 26331 has a number of superior design features.
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Old 21 March 2021, 08:16 AM   #162
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I like the layout of the new ROC, but yeah that thickness...
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Old 21 March 2021, 08:59 AM   #163
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I like them in both materials.
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Old 21 March 2021, 05:44 PM   #164
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I like them in both materials.
Nice thanks for sharing been waiting for side by side
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Old 21 March 2021, 08:28 PM   #165
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It's subtle. I wish it was less subtle (the ceramic, I mean).

I like it. But I'd like it more if it was more obvious.
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Old 21 March 2021, 09:08 PM   #166
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It's subtle. I wish it was less subtle (the ceramic, I mean).

I like it. But I'd like it more if it was more obvious.
I really like it.

What would you do to make the ceramic more prominent?
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Old 21 March 2021, 09:10 PM   #167
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I really like it.

What would you do to make the ceramic more prominent?
Nothing that I could do.

I'd rather the whole case be ceramic, but I know it's not possible based on the CODE 11.59 case design.
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Old 21 March 2021, 09:11 PM   #168
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Nothing that I could do.

I'd rather the whole case be ceramic, but I know it's not possible based on the CODE 11.59 case design.
Ok got it. An all ceramic version would be interesting.

But I like that Code in RG. Looks awesome.
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Old 21 March 2021, 10:35 PM   #169
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Nothing that I could do.

I'd rather the whole case be ceramic, but I know it's not possible based on the CODE 11.59 case design.
Given that the Code was so long in the design process and given that AP mastered the use of ceramics a long time ago, isn’t it possible that AP have the ability to create a full ceramic Code case that has the necessary structural integrity at the weakest points, i.e. the strap lugs?

Regardless, I love the black case against the rose gold. If I was looking for a dressier watch then this case combo is perfect to me.
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Old 21 March 2021, 11:10 PM   #170
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Check this article, the revamped ROC will be available later this month.

https://robbreport.com/style/watch-c...es-1234602454/
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Old 21 March 2021, 11:53 PM   #171
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Still hate the font choose for the numeral 12, but I could see myself getting the code. I like how the dial retains the design languages of the brushed texture of the RO Bezel. Between the code case and dial now, it’s almost like a deconstructed Royal Oak piece of art.

Wish it was a tad thinner though and would even be willing to go without a date for that purpose, especially when we finally see the ROC height.
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Old 21 March 2021, 11:55 PM   #172
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Also, I think it’s interesting to see how much value (dollar for watch features, not secondary market comparison) you get with Rolex OF at about 30k USD, how much you get for CODE Chrono at about 46k USD and how much you get for Patel Chrono at 70k USD.
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Old 22 March 2021, 12:21 AM   #173
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Still hate the font choose for the numeral 12
The font used for the numerals on CODE 11.59 has been derived from at least one historic and iconic AP.

https://quillandpad.com/2015/05/12/a...-female-roots/
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Old 22 March 2021, 12:24 AM   #174
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Also, I think it’s interesting to see how much value (dollar for watch features, not secondary market comparison) you get with Rolex OF at about 30k USD, how much you get for CODE Chrono at about 46k USD and how much you get for Patel Chrono at 70k USD.
I guess it's not "AP DNA", but I would like to see a shorter kevlar strap with a clasp a la Rolex OF. Not a fan of pin buckles. Other than that the new CODE is really tempting.
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Old 22 March 2021, 01:29 AM   #175
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I guess it's not "AP DNA", but I would like to see a shorter kevlar strap with a clasp a la Rolex OF. Not a fan of pin buckles. Other than that the new CODE is really tempting.
Pretty sure you could use the deployant off the CODE PC?
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Old 22 March 2021, 03:08 AM   #176
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Given that the Code was so long in the design process and given that AP mastered the use of ceramics a long time ago, isn’t it possible that AP have the ability to create a full ceramic Code case that has the necessary structural integrity at the weakest points, i.e. the strap lugs?
Looking at the case and the flexural strength of some ceramics vs gold allows, it seems that full ceramic might not be impossible. However, from what I have read, the CODE lugs are fabricated separately and then soldered to the top section of the case. I don't think that glueing ceramics can achieve the same strength, and fabricating case top/bezel and lug in one piece seems quite a challenge (i.e., expensive).

Happy to be corrected by someone who knows about such things.
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Old 22 March 2021, 03:22 AM   #177
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Pretty sure you could use the deployant off the CODE PC?
Probably, but most deployant/strap combos are somewhat bulky and not very comfortable contraptions. I think an Oysterflex-like system would be much nicer, not that I expect it too happen.

Regarding the CODE QP: I was too mesmerized by the dial to even notice the deployant
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Old 22 March 2021, 03:50 AM   #178
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Looking at the case and the flexural strength of some ceramics vs gold allows, it seems that full ceramic might not be impossible. However, from what I have read, the CODE lugs are fabricated separately and then soldered to the top section of the case. I don't think that glueing ceramics can achieve the same strength, and fabricating case top/bezel and lug in one piece seems quite a challenge (i.e., expensive).

Happy to be corrected by someone who knows about such things.
3D printing to the rescue!

And agree clasp would be very nice. Anything is better than the current deployant clasp.
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Old 22 March 2021, 04:04 AM   #179
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i quite like the CODE, they have improved the dial a lot from the 1st generation, and also the new rubber strap add sporty feel to the elegant case design. but the price is way over my budget.
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Old 22 March 2021, 06:32 AM   #180
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The 43 ROOs look interesting, not sure about the new Mega Taps, they look a little bricky in these pics, esp without the Audemars text, and not sure about the pushers and their new guards, maybe a bit too overfussy in an attempt to differentiate them, but the size for many, strap quick change and flyback function are cool.
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