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lhs · 11 December 2009, 01:45 PM

Hi Team,

If I were to buy a 14060M today, brand new, would they be SEL or non-SEL?

Cheers

PhilK · 14 December 2009, 03:33 AM

Can someone please let me know when the COSC writing first appeared?

theken · 14 December 2009, 03:43 AM

The Z series Sub ND was the first to appear with the COSC printing on the dial. The latest V series retain the holes in the case and the non SEL bracelet.
My feeling is that a COSC Sub ND belongs in every Rolex collection.

groovejosh · 15 December 2009, 01:34 AM

Looks classy

anonymousmoose · 16 December 2009, 06:49 PM

A good reviewing of the ND, I too am looking for one for the same reasons as the OP.

anonymousmoose · 16 December 2009, 06:50 PM

A good reviewing of the ND, I too am looking for one for the same reasons as the OP.

aleiberman · 23 December 2009, 12:32 AM

Great review. I just picked up a P-Serial 14060M. It's my favorite watch now.

14060MSUB · 31 December 2009, 12:43 PM

Great review! I just picked mine up in Maui on the 24th and I couldnt be happier with the choice.

DESP-MAN · 22 January 2010, 12:49 AM

it is a great watch, but the date function on the sd I used a lot too.

erolorhun · 4 February 2010, 06:55 AM

An absolute timeless classic. That`s why i am on the lookout for one.

jherm77 · 4 February 2010, 12:45 PM

I just bought my first Rolex, this model. Great thread to read in anticipation!

Fredke · 4 February 2010, 06:46 PM

I like this watch very mutch. I am planing to buy my first Rolex as soon as I can, but since I dicided a few weeks ago, up to now I only saved 200 euros

so, I will have to smoke less cuban cigars in the following months...
Anyway, if my choice is now 90% sub vs 10% GMT, I keep hesitating between Sub Date and Sub no date. I like the sub no date because it is pretty, cheaper, less common, more classical. I like the sub date because... it gives the date and it is the most famous. I mean, when you weare a Rolex, I guess most of you, you like when your friends, your boss, your barmaid, the hotel receptionist look at your wisp and say "nice watch"... and I was thinking the Sub date is more "iconic" for non-Rolex people. Let say the cyclops of the Rolex is like the spoiler of the Porsche 911 or the crocodile on the Lacoste shirt... it "upgrades" the watch for the eyes of the non-Rolex people.
But now, I am thinking: "what about the date"? I don't need it that much... and is that cyclops that beautiful??? Big debate, even for myself: one day I say yes and an other day I say no... So, when I have a problem like this, I talk to my wife. She is definitely younger than me but also definitely more mature... and she said: "you already have an Invicta looking like the Sub date, so, even if is not a Rolex, take something different"... So, I feel what I will do is getting first a Sub no date: it costs almost 1000 euros less, I will save the money faster, and later, maybe I'll get also a Sub date... or a GMT Master "pepsi"...
The good point is my wife finally admitted the fact I can spend all this money "just to know what time is it" instead to change my wardrobe and wear something else than t-shirts, jeans and my 3-years-old Carterpilar shoes...

jherm77 · 4 February 2010, 08:38 PM

Oddly enough, I rarely look at the date on my watch. It was a win win situation for me, once I thought about it. I struggled with the sub date as well, thinking it was more iconic. Once I accepted this purchase was for myself, something I always wanted, I stopped caring if other people recognized the date model more. In short, I love the clean, simple look of the model. I have a few other nice watches that are MUCH more complicated. As with life, keep it simple!

Jason Judd · 5 February 2010, 03:17 AM

I like the graceful simplicity of the 14060...

Probably what I'm going to get.

steubi1 · 14 May 2010, 04:30 AM

Good review, fully agree.

The 14060 COSC is my favourite, it gets most wrist time.
Why? It is light, comfortable to wear, it is THE Rolex Sub, mine is running extremely accurate (+20 sec per month), classic, beautiful, simple design....And the history! What can we get more from a watch? I LOVE IT!

And I know what I am talking about, crazy for watches, owning about 30 or 40 of them, complicated, decorated, some much more expensive than Rolex, but finally:::14060m!

Thanks for your review, enjoy your watch as I do.

Regards Tom

Sluggy · 15 May 2010, 11:35 PM

here's mine! It's the second 14060 that I have owned. Also had an A series I bought in 1998, then traded it for a new Sea Dweller. I like the 14060 better... :)

the infamous tuna can quality clasp!

Tippix · 26 May 2010, 12:29 AM

Just a wonderful watch

nuovorecord · 9 June 2010, 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Rooney

Much has been written about the Rolex Oyster bracelet. Rolex has improved it on many of the newer models, but the 14060M retains the old non-SEL standard bracelet.

Is it possible to upgrade a 14060 to a SEL bracelet? Thanks much.

slevin kelevra · 9 June 2010, 05:56 AM

It is possible and has been done (see amatuer watchmakers corner) but I wouldnt recommend it!

fc3s2k · 19 June 2010, 02:35 PM

I coudn't agree more. That is why the 14060M is my first rolex, my first love.

eagle_lex · 21 June 2010, 09:15 AM

My ND p serial is by far my most comfortable and favorite watch. It's a must have in any collection!

nowzen · 26 June 2010, 03:11 PM

Darn you Ed!... after reading this thread I went out and bought my 14060M.
I had been agonizing over date/no date, cosc/2-liner, rehaut/clean, new/old. Anyways it all became crystal clear.... I bought a 'Y' 14060M from a used luxury watch dealer in Kowloon Hong Hong (yes, it's real). Near-mint for $3100 US. - no paper though. Really love its clean lines - its the ultimate watch and it feels so good on my wrist. Now to sell my Tudor mini-sub...

tradernick · 5 July 2010, 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theken

The Z series Sub ND was the first to appear with the COSC printing on the dial. The latest V series retain the holes in the case and the non SEL bracelet.
My feeling is that a COSC Sub ND belongs in every Rolex collection.

theken, can you tell me a bit about the SS bracelets on the 14060? I have read a few references here on RF to the fact that the bracelet on certain years, or within a certain range of years, is somewhat 'tinny' or less than solid-feeling. Now, this will in no way prevent me from acquiring what is my grail watch. I just want to know about this distinction between the SEL and non-SEL bracelet, and I'm looking for some info on the SS 14060 bracelets in general. I want to pick up a fairly recent year (maybe 2004 or newer). Should I expect to see different bracelets? Is there one in particular that guys around here like better?

Thanks to you or anyone who can shed some light on this for me.

Rebel · 5 July 2010, 06:09 AM

Thanks for the review. Very good read

RobCook · 16 July 2010, 01:27 AM

This watch is next on my list. An absolute classic.

club25 · 20 July 2010, 04:07 AM

I will purchase my rolex submariner 14060M 2001 model tomorrow from a friend. I cant sleep. This by the way is my first post. Hi.. to all.

slevin kelevra · 20 July 2010, 05:24 AM

Congrats! You wont regret it! My 14060m is very rarely off my wrist!

ac001 · 27 July 2010, 10:27 PM

This is a great review. I got mine last week from a trusted TRF seller. A great looking watch.

100thmonkey · 3 November 2010, 08:01 AM

If you are lucky enough to own or buy a 14060 it has to be a non COSC version!

The addition of the COSC added little more than a piece of paper to the box and spoiled the cleanest of the dials. The lure of the ND is its simplicity, less is more, the absence of the date and cyclops balances the dial and on a non COSC it has the perfect '2 up 2 down' balance of written text on the dial.

Non COSC versions are older and will become vintage and sought after in time where we crave the original design after suffering the ceramic invasion of the last few years.

If you have got a COSC you own probably the 2nd best pound for pound Rolex out there but perfection needs not the certificate!!!!

TSW · 3 November 2010, 08:09 AM

Great review buddy!!

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11 December 2009, 01:45 PM	#91
lhs "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: KL Posts: 7	Hi Team, If I were to buy a 14060M today, brand new, would they be SEL or non-SEL? Cheers

14 December 2009, 03:33 AM	#92
PhilK "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: London Posts: 192	Can someone please let me know when the COSC writing first appeared?

14 December 2009, 03:43 AM	#93
theken "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA Watch: GMT-Master II Posts: 3,417	The Z series Sub ND was the first to appear with the COSC printing on the dial. The latest V series retain the holes in the case and the non SEL bracelet. My feeling is that a COSC Sub ND belongs in every Rolex collection.

15 December 2009, 01:34 AM	#94
groovejosh Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Josh Location: Nashville Watch: Rolex GMT-Master 2 Posts: 41	Looks classy

16 December 2009, 06:49 PM	#95
anonymousmoose "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 601	A good reviewing of the ND, I too am looking for one for the same reasons as the OP.

16 December 2009, 06:50 PM	#96
anonymousmoose "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 601	A good reviewing of the ND, I too am looking for one for the same reasons as the OP.

23 December 2009, 12:32 AM	#97
aleiberman "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Aaron Location: MA Watch: Rolex Posts: 501	Great review. I just picked up a P-Serial 14060M. It's my favorite watch now.

31 December 2009, 12:43 PM	#98
14060MSUB Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Mike Location: Washington Posts: 69	Great review! I just picked mine up in Maui on the 24th and I couldnt be happier with the choice.

22 January 2010, 12:49 AM	#99
DESP-MAN Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: EU Posts: 49	it is a great watch, but the date function on the sd I used a lot too.

4 February 2010, 06:55 AM	#100
erolorhun "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Watch: Rolex 14060M Posts: 72	An absolute timeless classic. That`s why i am on the lookout for one.

4 February 2010, 12:45 PM	#101
jherm77 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Jason Herman Location: Pennsylvania Watch: Rolex Sub ND Posts: 20	I just bought my first Rolex, this model. Great thread to read in anticipation!

4 February 2010, 06:46 PM	#102
Fredke Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Frédéric Location: Belgium Posts: 38	I like this watch very mutch. I am planing to buy my first Rolex as soon as I can, but since I dicided a few weeks ago, up to now I only saved 200 euros so, I will have to smoke less cuban cigars in the following months... Anyway, if my choice is now 90% sub vs 10% GMT, I keep hesitating between Sub Date and Sub no date. I like the sub no date because it is pretty, cheaper, less common, more classical. I like the sub date because... it gives the date and it is the most famous. I mean, when you weare a Rolex, I guess most of you, you like when your friends, your boss, your barmaid, the hotel receptionist look at your wisp and say "nice watch"... and I was thinking the Sub date is more "iconic" for non-Rolex people. Let say the cyclops of the Rolex is like the spoiler of the Porsche 911 or the crocodile on the Lacoste shirt... it "upgrades" the watch for the eyes of the non-Rolex people. But now, I am thinking: "what about the date"? I don't need it that much... and is that cyclops that beautiful??? Big debate, even for myself: one day I say yes and an other day I say no... So, when I have a problem like this, I talk to my wife. She is definitely younger than me but also definitely more mature... and she said: "you already have an Invicta looking like the Sub date, so, even if is not a Rolex, take something different"... So, I feel what I will do is getting first a Sub no date: it costs almost 1000 euros less, I will save the money faster, and later, maybe I'll get also a Sub date... or a GMT Master "pepsi"... The good point is my wife finally admitted the fact I can spend all this money "just to know what time is it" instead to change my wardrobe and wear something else than t-shirts, jeans and my 3-years-old Carterpilar shoes...

4 February 2010, 08:38 PM	#103
jherm77 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Jason Herman Location: Pennsylvania Watch: Rolex Sub ND Posts: 20	Oddly enough, I rarely look at the date on my watch. It was a win win situation for me, once I thought about it. I struggled with the sub date as well, thinking it was more iconic. Once I accepted this purchase was for myself, something I always wanted, I stopped caring if other people recognized the date model more. In short, I love the clean, simple look of the model. I have a few other nice watches that are MUCH more complicated. As with life, keep it simple!

5 February 2010, 03:17 AM	#104
Jason Judd Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Jason Location: ny Posts: 27	I like the graceful simplicity of the 14060... Probably what I'm going to get.

14 May 2010, 04:30 AM	#105
steubi1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Tom Location: Switzerland Watch: too many Posts: 1,149	Good review, fully agree. The 14060 COSC is my favourite, it gets most wrist time. Why? It is light, comfortable to wear, it is THE Rolex Sub, mine is running extremely accurate (+20 sec per month), classic, beautiful, simple design....And the history! What can we get more from a watch? I LOVE IT! And I know what I am talking about, crazy for watches, owning about 30 or 40 of them, complicated, decorated, some much more expensive than Rolex, but finally:::14060m! Thanks for your review, enjoy your watch as I do. Regards Tom

15 May 2010, 11:35 PM	#106
Sluggy "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: USA Posts: 43	here's mine! It's the second 14060 that I have owned. Also had an A series I bought in 1998, then traded it for a new Sea Dweller. I like the 14060 better... :) the infamous tuna can quality clasp!

26 May 2010, 12:29 AM	#107
Tippix "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Germany Posts: 9	Just a wonderful watch

9 June 2010, 05:56 AM	#109
slevin kelevra "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Scotland Watch: 14060m Posts: 631	It is possible and has been done (see amatuer watchmakers corner) but I wouldnt recommend it!

19 June 2010, 02:35 PM	#110
fc3s2k "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Barry Location: california Watch: OFFICINE PANERAI Posts: 1,289	I coudn't agree more. That is why the 14060M is my first rolex, my first love.

21 June 2010, 09:15 AM	#111
eagle_lex "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Ed Location: Lexington, Ky Watch: AP and Rolex Posts: 541	My ND p serial is by far my most comfortable and favorite watch. It's a must have in any collection!

16 July 2010, 01:27 AM	#115
RobCook "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Essex Watch: Speedy Pro Posts: 11	This watch is next on my list. An absolute classic.

20 July 2010, 05:24 AM	#117
slevin kelevra "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Scotland Watch: 14060m Posts: 631	Congrats! You wont regret it! My 14060m is very rarely off my wrist!

3 November 2010, 08:01 AM	#119
100thmonkey "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: The Major Location: Surrey, UK Watch: All Are Beautiful Posts: 355	If you are lucky enough to own or buy a 14060 it has to be a non COSC version! The addition of the COSC added little more than a piece of paper to the box and spoiled the cleanest of the dials. The lure of the ND is its simplicity, less is more, the absence of the date and cyclops balances the dial and on a non COSC it has the perfect '2 up 2 down' balance of written text on the dial. Non COSC versions are older and will become vintage and sought after in time where we crave the original design after suffering the ceramic invasion of the last few years. If you have got a COSC you own probably the 2nd best pound for pound Rolex out there but perfection needs not the certificate!!!!

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