Jubilee vs Oyster bracelet

[eudiam]

Was wondering which one is the strongest..
I assume it should be the oyster - thicker pins/screws, less links, stretches less in long periods of usage etc. - but i am really not sure.
what are the main construction differences?
tks for enlightening me.

[Tombstone]

Eudiam,
In 1989 I had my first Rolex; the watch had a Jubilee bracelet after several years of solid use I had to replace it because it was thrashed. I have had better luck with the Oyster bracelets, so I prefer them to the Jubilee.

I know some of my friends have also had problems with their Jubilee bracelets. Rolex has improved their bracelets over the years and I am happy with the bracelets of today versus the bracelets of the 1980’s.

I am sure other members of this forum will have better facts as to which are better, I feel it is just a matter of what you prefer.

[padi56]

Myself prefer the Oyster bracelet,but the newer Jubilee looks like a big improvement on the older style.But even the Oyster today is only a solid S.Steel copy of the original Rolex oyster bracelet stretch link bracelet.Both bracelets are very strong and perfectly strong enough for what they was designed for.Now sometimes the jubilee does stretch but never heard of one breaking unless abused.And all bracelets,straps etc on all watches. Are only as strong as the weakest link and thats normally the lug pins or adjustment locating pins.And both bracelets have been around for decades now with very little change.And I am sure if any of the Rolex bracelets had any problem strength wise it would have rectified quick.

[greenfan]

I don´t know which is stronger - though I think it is the Oyster - but I sure like it more over the Jubilee ....

[tonelar]

The Oyster is stronger for many of the reasons you wrote... The jubilee is maybe more comfortable, but in it's older configuration it was meant for the lighter weight watch bodies.

More moving parts = more areas to wear out.

[montecristo]

The new jubilee are solid links, so they are different than the traditional jubilee that people comment about.

[eudiam]

agree, but doesn't the fact that it has more links and hence pins/screws matter? not really sure abt the thickness of the pins also..

[Dimitris]

Surely the Oyster, it is made to be strong and not for being nice like the jubilee is.

[nko51]

In my opinion the oyster will retain the stiffness of the links longer.

[OysterDavid]

I view this as a 'now many angels on the head of a pin?' kind of question. Oyster or Jubilee? Which is stronger? Heck, this is Rolex! Make your decision based on your own personal preference, no some hypothetical question of longevity or strength. Jubilee bracelets have been on Rolex watches for decades. Yes, after 10 or 15 years, the Jubilee is more prone to stretching, but that's only under severe useage. And an Oyster will also stretch if abused.

Are you going to place a hook inside the bracelet and hang from a tree branch? Are you going to take off your bracelet and drive nails with it? Are your going to grip the closed bracelet and perform isometric exercises with it? Are you going to test its strength by using it as a set of brass knuckles in a bar fight?

If you're just going to purchase a Rolex and wear it then I don't think you need be worried about the relative strength issues between Oyster and Jubilee. I've seen examples of both in excellent condition after 20+ years of service, and I've seen others in need of replacement after 10 years of abuse. Pick your Rolex, pick your bracelet, wear your Rolex, celebrate your acquisition here, let us validate your choice here and smile. Life's far too short to obsess over the hypothetical failings of anything Rolex.

Just my 2 cents.

[montecristo]

Originally Posted by OysterDavid

Are you going to test its strength by using it as a set of brass knuckles in a bar fight?

You just gave me an idea.

[Solo118]

As for me I just prefer how the oyster looks compared to the jubilee... I cant imagine a Sub or Daytona with a jubilee

[JJ Irani]

Oyster = Sporty!!

Jubilee = Dressy!!!

[mikey]

I disagree with the integrity of the oyster. I have seen rivet oyster bands thrashed. I have also seen terribly damaged President bands. The oval link jubilee is only broken due to abuse. I have seen newer bands and the oval links thrashed. Maybe people gained weight and purposely streched the links who knows. I admit on this forum that I have go to a Nato because I am gaining too much weight and sold my prized Jubilee bands because of the weight increase.

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by mikey

I disagree with the integrity of the oyster. I have seen rivet oyster bands thrashed. I have also seen terribly damaged President bands. The oval link jubilee is only broken due to abuse. I have seen newer bands and the oval links thrashed. Maybe people gained weight and purposely streched the links who knows. I admit on this forum that I have go to a Nato because I am gaining too much weight and sold my prized Jubilee bands because of the weight increase.

The wrist is mainly bone and tendons. A person would have to put on a helluva lot of weight for the watch to suddenly turn tight around the wrist.

I used to weigh in at 207 lbs. 18 months ago. I now weigh around 190. The 17 pound loss has made absolutely NO DIFFERENCE to my bracelet setting on any of my watches. Still fit on the same setting.

JJ

[eudiam]

Originally Posted by OysterDavid

I view this as a 'now many angels on the head of a pin?' kind of question. Oyster or Jubilee? Which is stronger? Heck, this is Rolex! Make your decision based on your own personal preference, no some hypothetical question of longevity or strength. Jubilee bracelets have been on Rolex watches for decades. Yes, after 10 or 15 years, the Jubilee is more prone to stretching, but that's only under severe useage. And an Oyster will also stretch if abused.

Are you going to place a hook inside the bracelet and hang from a tree branch? Are you going to take off your bracelet and drive nails with it? Are your going to grip the closed bracelet and perform isometric exercises with it? Are you going to test its strength by using it as a set of brass knuckles in a bar fight?

If you're just going to purchase a Rolex and wear it then I don't think you need be worried about the relative strength issues between Oyster and Jubilee. I've seen examples of both in excellent condition after 20+ years of service, and I've seen others in need of replacement after 10 years of abuse. Pick your Rolex, pick your bracelet, wear your Rolex, celebrate your acquisition here, let us validate your choice here and smile. Life's far too short to obsess over the hypothetical failings of anything Rolex.

Just my 2 cents.

Well, it is not a matter of wanting to know whether someone could use his rolex bracelet for purposes other than what it was designed to do ie. hold ur watch onto ur wrist..it's just having an idea which one is the strongest for the sake of it. it is the same as going for a sd instead of a sub, being fascinated with the idea it can withstand pressure 4,000 ft under water as opposed to 1,220 ft, smthng that realistically speaking doesn't make a difference to nobody..
anyway most of the 15+ year old jubilee bracelets i've seen are not as tight as the respective oyster ones and was wondering whether this has anything to do with the way they are made or if its just pure coincidence.
as far as the looks are concerned, have to agree with jj that the oyster looks to me more sporty than jubilee.

[colemanitis]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

The wrist is mainly bone and tendons. A person would have to put on a helluva lot of weight for the watch to suddenly turn tight around the wrist. JJ

Not necessarily. My body can retain quite a bit of water. A 10 pound weight loss requires a pin adjustment on my clasp. I should know, I just lost 10 pounds!

[Alcan]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Oyster = Sporty!!

Jubilee = Dressy!!!

Exactly.

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by Alcan

Exactly.

And President = Presentable!!

PS: No relation whatsoever with our "President"!!

[mikey]

JJ, I can't hardly fit in my car. Its kinda difficult to discuss weight gain and whether wrist get big or not. When I first got my USA Jubilee I was able to fit the one with 21 links. The 20 link was sold first. What did you do to lose those 17 pounds?

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by mikey

JJ, I can't hardly fit in my car. Its kinda difficult to discuss weight gain and whether wrist get big or not. When I first got my USA Jubilee I was able to fit the one with 21 links. The 20 link was sold first. What did you do to lose those 17 pounds?

I went on the Weight Watchers diet. MODERATION is the key word and it worked miracles.

The great thing about this method is once you lose the weight, you can start eating any thing you like, but in moderation of course.

JJ

[astcell]

I have lost a lot of weight since saving my lunch money for Rolexes!

[mikey]

I have the worst eating habits you could imagine. I go to Dunkin Donuts and eat half a dozen then guzzle down a chocolate milk along with a large cream/sugar coffee. I tell close family I did not gain weight by eating bologna sandwiches. I have had the best foods in high and low end restaurants. I never look in the mirror.

[Blown Wide Open]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

I went on the Weight Watchers diet. MODERATION is the key word and it worked miracles.

The great thing about this method is once you lose the weight, you can start eating any thing you like, but in moderation of course.

JJ

Lol...What do you know about moderation MR. I change my Rolex's like I change my underwear.

PAtrick

[astcell]

Originally Posted by mikey

I have the worst eating habits you could imagine. I go to Dunkin Donuts and eat half a dozen then guzzle down a chocolate milk along with a large cream/sugar coffee. I tell close family I did not gain weight by eating bologna sandwiches. I have had the best foods in high and low end restaurants. I never look in the mirror.

I'm so big I'd have to stand in front of the mirror twice to see all of me once.

[quinson418]

Originally Posted by OysterDavid

I view this as a 'now many angels on the head of a pin?' kind of question. Oyster or Jubilee? Which is stronger? Heck, this is Rolex! Make your decision based on your own personal preference, no some hypothetical question of longevity or strength. Jubilee bracelets have been on Rolex watches for decades. Yes, after 10 or 15 years, the Jubilee is more prone to stretching, but that's only under severe useage. And an Oyster will also stretch if abused.

Are you going to place a hook inside the bracelet and hang from a tree branch? Are you going to take off your bracelet and drive nails with it? Are your going to grip the closed bracelet and perform isometric exercises with it? Are you going to test its strength by using it as a set of brass knuckles in a bar fight?

If you're just going to purchase a Rolex and wear it then I don't think you need be worried about the relative strength issues between Oyster and Jubilee. I've seen examples of both in excellent condition after 20+ years of service, and I've seen others in need of replacement after 10 years of abuse. Pick your Rolex, pick your bracelet, wear your Rolex, celebrate your acquisition here, let us validate your choice here and smile. Life's far too short to obsess over the hypothetical failings of anything Rolex.

Just my 2 cents.

Maybe the initial thought was just to look into the bracelets a little bit more. Moreover, for folks that are willing to pay so much for a Rolex, definitely would like to know how strong the watch is, just a little comparsion we are talking about.

It is really hard to compare the structural strength of the two I think. I personally like the Oyster much more.

[eudiam]

[QUOTE=quinson418;177926]Maybe the initial thought was just to look into the bracelets a little bit more.


Yes, as explained in a previous post, this was the initial thought.

[eudiam]

[QUOTE=quinson418;177926]Maybe the initial thought was just to look into the bracelets a little bit more.


Yes, as explained in a previous post, this was the initial thought.