Covid scare..

[mountainjogger]

Originally Posted by superdog

I wore a mask and gloves everywhere. I was diligent. Not perfect. But very diligent.

Superdog:

My brother we have expressed different opinions in the past and no doubt will do so in the future. I enjoy the back and forth. But if this pandemic has demonstrated anything it is that we all have opinions but that and actions speak louder than words.

For me, your conduct in taking precautions for yourself and others is the mark of individual responsibility.

I am happy that you and your wife are ok and wish you the best.

Stay safe.

[superdog]

Originally Posted by mountainjogger

Superdog:

My brother we have expressed different opinions in the past and no doubt will do so in the future. I enjoy the back and forth. But if this pandemic has demonstrated anything it is that we all have opinions but that and actions speak louder than words.

For me, your conduct in taking precautions for yourself and others is the mark of individual responsibility.

I am happy that you and your wife are ok and wish you the best.

Stay safe.

My man. Thanks brother for this note. I too have enjoy our discussions.

I have also learned quite a bit. Thank you again for the message and the sentiment behind it.

As always, much respect for you.

[TheVTCGuy]

Originally Posted by mountainjogger

Superdog:

My brother we have expressed different opinions in the past and no doubt will do so in the future. I enjoy the back and forth. But if this pandemic has demonstrated anything it is that we all have opinions but that and actions speak louder than words.

For me, your conduct in taking precautions for yourself and others is the mark of individual responsibility.

I am happy that you and your wife are ok and wish you the best.

Stay safe.

Originally Posted by superdog

My man. Thanks brother for this note. I too have enjoy our discussions.

I have also learned quite a bit. Thank you again for the message and the sentiment behind it.

As always, much respect for you.

For the record, I don’t like either one of you!!!!

[erhein]

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

What an idiot! Everyone knows you have to use TWO pinches of Borax or the 5G waves can permeate your bone marrow!

Or one pinch of the 40 Mule Team Borax.

[TheVTCGuy]

Originally Posted by erhein

Or one pinch of the 40 Mule Team Borax.

Exactly!!!!

[TheVTCGuy]

And another thing!!!!

People say I complain too much I’M SICK AND TIRED OF PEOPLE SAYING I COMPLAIN TOO MUCH!!!

[daveathall]

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

And another thing!!!!

People say I complain too much I’M SICK AND TIRED OF PEOPLE SAYING I COMPLAIN TOO MUCH!!!

You complain too much Paul.

[daveathall]

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

For the record, I don’t like either one of you!!!!

I like them both. There are others I don't though.

[BNA/LION]

Originally Posted by daveathall

You complain too much Paul.

X2 Waaaay to much!

[TheVTCGuy]

Originally Posted by BNA/LION

X2 Waaaay to much!

AND ANOTHER THING!!!! What about all this violence on Television!

[TswaneNguni]

Message from one hospital I work in (received tonight ) .."reached max ventilation capacity,cannot admit more that may need ventilation ."

[rajurama]

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/04/h...-airborne.html

[scarlet knight]

Originally Posted by rajurama

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/04/h...-airborne.html

Great article.

[mountainjogger]

Originally Posted by scarlet knight

Great article.

Yes. Great article.

Stay safe.

[904VT]

Originally Posted by TswaneNguni

Message from one hospital I work in (received tonight ) .."reached max ventilation capacity,cannot admit more that may need ventilation ."

Would be interesting if there was an updated way to use something like the below instead...

https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0627142512.htm

[904VT]

Originally Posted by rajurama

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/04/h...-airborne.html

Just my personal opinion, but I’ve been thinking for a while that HVAC advancements may be one of the biggest results from this...

[superdog]

Validates my theory.

I hope I’m right. Everyone should. This is the best possible scenario right now. Everything else is just bleak.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/herd-im...imessage_share

[77T]

Apparently not everyone who recovers get the amount of antibodies necessary to be considered immune. A study in Spain also noted only 5% did come through with enough antibodies to be immune.

If true, it would take 24 months for Spain to reach a 60% (a figure deemed to be a “herd immune” level)


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[superdog]

Originally Posted by 77T

Apparently not everyone who recovers get the amount of antibodies necessary to be considered immune. A study in Spain also noted only 5% did come through with enough antibodies to be immune.

If true, it would take 24 months for Spain to reach a 60% (a figure deemed to be a “herd immune” level)


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The earth protecting itself. Checks and balances.

This coming from a guy that has his elderly, not healthy parents getting on a plane, today, from Arizona to NJ. So that they can move to Florida.

[RW16610]

Originally Posted by rajurama

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/04/h...-airborne.html

Thanks for sharing. A lot of hard work and research is taking place for the betterment of society. Lot's of room for some improvements that can help us in the future.

[uscmatt99]

Originally Posted by superdog

Validates my theory.

I hope I’m right. Everyone should. This is the best possible scenario right now. Everything else is just bleak.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/herd-im...imessage_share

I hope you're right as well, though I fear you're not. There are aspects of this disease we know about, and many we don't. I'm waiting for more consensus from the scientific community and will continue to take a conservative approach to dealing with this pandemic for me and my family, though I understand everyone has different risk tolerances.

That doesn't mean I'm hiding in the basement. Rather, I'll limit moderate and high risk activities and settle for lower risk social activities for now. Specifically that means I'll physically distance, wear a mask in public indoor spaces (and outdoor if congested), and avoid traveling by air for pleasure. My wife and I still dine outside when restaurants and patrons are behaving according to best practices, still get tons of outdoor time without masks on, still socialize with our small circle of friends, etc.

Side-note, I tend to agree with views in articles published in mainstream media. However one thing that just kills me is the whole "beach-shaming" phenomenon. Photos depict supposedly packed beaches filled with viral particles and leading to outbreaks. Articles that have nothing to do with beaches, lakes, or oceans show stock photos of people enjoying the outdoors. The evidence is so damned sparse that this is a significant contributor to spread of the virus. That's the kind of irresponsible reporting that leads to mistrust in the media. The safest place for socialization and exercise is to be outside in a breezy area, rather than confining people to small indoor places where we know for a fact the virus spreads like crazy.

Hope you and your family stay well

[superdog]

Originally Posted by uscmatt99

I hope you're right as well, though I fear you're not. There are aspects of this disease we know about, and many we don't. I'm waiting for more consensus from the scientific community and will continue to take a conservative approach to dealing with this pandemic for me and my family, though I understand everyone has different risk tolerances.

That doesn't mean I'm hiding in the basement. Rather, I'll limit moderate and high risk activities and settle for lower risk social activities for now. Specifically that means I'll physically distance, wear a mask in public indoor spaces (and outdoor if congested), and avoid traveling by air for pleasure. My wife and I still dine outside when restaurants and patrons are behaving according to best practices, still get tons of outdoor time without masks on, still socialize with our small circle of friends, etc.

Side-note, I tend to agree with views in articles published in mainstream media. However one thing that just kills me is the whole "beach-shaming" phenomenon. Photos depict supposedly packed beaches filled with viral particles and leading to outbreaks. Articles that have nothing to do with beaches, lakes, or oceans show stock photos of people enjoying the outdoors. The evidence is so damned sparse that this is a significant contributor to spread of the virus. That's the kind of irresponsible reporting that leads to mistrust in the media. The safest place for socialization and exercise is to be outside in a breezy area, rather than confining people to small indoor places where we know for a fact the virus spreads like crazy.

Hope you and your family stay well

I fear that I am not as well. Hoboken NJ just spiked. I am hoping this is an anomaly. If not, my theory is mostly shot to poop.

Agree with your last paragraph as well. It is more of the MSM just fear mongering and selling clicks. We are in a very tenuous state of society. I personally do not see things going well.

[JasoninDenver]

One very real possibility for this virus is that it may well mutate into something LESS transmissible and/or virulent over time. This would be the best case scenario, obviously.

The Spanish (I know, Kansas...) Flu of 1918-1920 that killed so many Is actually still present. A combination of mutations and gradual immunity simply rendered it much less deadly.

[TheVTCGuy]

Originally Posted by uscmatt99

I hope you're right as well, though I fear you're not. There are aspects of this disease we know about, and many we don't. I'm waiting for more consensus from the scientific community and will continue to take a conservative approach to dealing with this pandemic for me and my family, though I understand everyone has different risk tolerances.

That doesn't mean I'm hiding in the basement. Rather, I'll limit moderate and high risk activities and settle for lower risk social activities for now. Specifically that means I'll physically distance, wear a mask in public indoor spaces (and outdoor if congested), and avoid traveling by air for pleasure. My wife and I still dine outside when restaurants and patrons are behaving according to best practices, still get tons of outdoor time without masks on, still socialize with our small circle of friends, etc.

Side-note, I tend to agree with views in articles published in mainstream media. However one thing that just kills me is the whole "beach-shaming" phenomenon. Photos depict supposedly packed beaches filled with viral particles and leading to outbreaks. Articles that have nothing to do with beaches, lakes, or oceans show stock photos of people enjoying the outdoors. The evidence is so damned sparse that this is a significant contributor to spread of the virus. That's the kind of irresponsible reporting that leads to mistrust in the media. The safest place for socialization and exercise is to be outside in a breezy area, rather than confining people to small indoor places where we know for a fact the virus spreads like crazy.

Hope you and your family stay well

Matt, so very well said! You are a very smart man.. juste like i is two! This is bad, but as you stated we can't hide in the basement. Stay safe my friend!

[uscmatt99]

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

Matt, so very well said! You are a very smart man.. juste like i is two! This is bad, but as you stated we can't hide in the basement. Stay safe my friend!

Thanks Paul

Without getting specifically pxxxxical I've been soooooo disappointed with the response in the US. I remember 9-11 and how it brought us all together. We made missteps then, but we did it together for the most part.

Right now, we are fractured and people are dying unnecessarily. We made sacrifices economically with the hopes of mustering a more complete response, which we have again failed at as far as I'm concerned. This has led to a state of helplessness, denial, and "oh well we tried" which is not at all what this country pretends to be about. Meanwhile our neighbors and allies across the globe seem to be in a better position for the most part.

Once we come together, we'll beat this thing together while protecting and supporting the weakest among us. I hope we turn that corner sooner rather than later.

[scarlet knight]

Originally Posted by JasoninDenver

One very real possibility for this virus is that it may well mutate into something LESS transmissible and/or virulent over time. This would be the best case scenario, obviously.

The Spanish (I know, Kansas...) Flu of 1918-1920 that killed so many Is actually still present. A combination of mutations and gradual immunity simply rendered it much less deadly.

Things don’t always occur the way we want.

[TheVTCGuy]

Originally Posted by uscmatt99

Thanks Paul

Without getting specifically pxxxxical I've been soooooo disappointed with the response in the US. I remember 9-11 and how it brought us all together. We made missteps then, but we did it together for the most part.

Right now, we are fractured and people are dying unnecessarily. We made sacrifices economically with the hopes of mustering a more complete response, which we have again failed at as far as I'm concerned. This has led to a state of helplessness, denial, and "oh well we tried" which is not at all what this country pretends to be about. Meanwhile our neighbors and allies across the globe seem to be in a better position for the most part.

Once we come together, we'll beat this thing together while protecting and supporting the weakest among us. I hope we turn that corner sooner rather than later.

Again, very well said.

Are you sure you went to USC? You ALMOST present the knowledge level of a University of California man, (like myself ).

Here is my best game, against your alma matter. Nice legs huh? This was 1980... I am in the exact shame shape today!

(OK, so I’m a liar).

[uscmatt99]

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

Again, very well said.

Are you sure you went to USC? You ALMOST present the knowledge level of a University of California man, (like myself ).

Here is my best game, against your alma matter. Nice legs huh? This was 1980... I am in the exact shame shape today!

(OK, so I’m a liar).

That's awesome Paul! Yes I did attend the best school in southern California, and UCSD was my second choice. I spent a day at each campus and was sold on USC, feel very fortunate to have attended. My friends and I always joke that we were the last of the dumb, first of the smart classes and none of us would've gotten in today. Used to be you could just buy your way in honestly, then they filled in the gaps with people who actually have potential. Now you have to do shady deals, lie on your application, pretend you are a swimmer or sailing expert, and then buy your way in, what a joke

[Polarexplorerii]

Originally Posted by bna/lion

covid-19 is real, people are still infecting others, no one is immune, social distancing and wearing a mask when around others is reccomend.

Glad to hear he was negative but it is clear tests have false negative readings so, retest a few more time to be safe. Also, he may want to self quarantine to prevent further spread.

Strang times for sure.

+1

[daveathall]

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

Nice legs huh?

I wouldn't go that far.