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Old 30 May 2016, 11:09 PM   #91
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You guy do know there are ~$20k repeaters and obviously the Tag Tourbillion. I have a feeling the point being these very old technologies are not that expensive to implement nowadays. As for the quality of implementation or perceived value of using that technology within a timepiece, that is another matter entirely. There is quite a bit of perception that seems to go into the pricing of luxury goods. If the confidence of perceived value is reduced it can negatively affect the pricing of a luxury goods manufacturer's products on both the new and used market.

Think of it like the assumed value/buying power of goods and services of a FIAT currency, there is a known factor of keeping the confidence game going to the masses. Perhaps this is why some manufacturers like to bid quite highly on their used pieces. It keeps the perception going.
Well said.

Just like Abby Rosen, Stevie Cohen and the gang constantly bid up prices of some contemporary "artists" like Koons and Basquiat. The cohort own a majority of works and it's in their self interest to keep prices up to place an even higher value on their collections. If people opened their eyes and saw what rubbish Basquiats really are, these gents would each take write downs in excess of $100 -$200m. And don't get me started on Koons.
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Old 31 May 2016, 12:25 AM   #92
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Well said.

Just like Abby Rosen, Stevie Cohen and the gang constantly bid up prices of some contemporary "artists" like Koons and Basquiat. The cohort own a majority of works and it's in their self interest to keep prices up to place an even higher value on their collections. If people opened their eyes and saw what rubbish Basquiats really are, these gents would each take write downs in excess of $100 -$200m. And don't get me started on Koons.

Lmao. I totally agree with the "rubbish" comment!
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Old 27 June 2016, 08:53 AM   #93
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I've tried it on today. It feels great, very light and not too bulky on my small wrist.



Only Harrods sell the Tourbillon model in the UK and it's all sold out this year.
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Old 27 June 2016, 10:31 AM   #94
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And there are new watches with repeater for around $15k as I recall. Sure not to 'Patek quality' yet they work. The good thing is that such complications that in the past came at perceived high prices are now coming down in cost quite a bit.
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Old 27 June 2016, 11:28 AM   #95
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It will resell for nothing.
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Old 27 June 2016, 11:31 AM   #96
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I like that TAG but it is what it is...would give you $4500 for it.
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Old 27 June 2016, 12:36 PM   #97
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4500 what?
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Old 27 June 2016, 12:58 PM   #98
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Well this had simmered down in May only to arise again...
Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
But TAG sure knows how to tweak PP's nose.
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Old 27 June 2016, 01:11 PM   #99
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I think this Chinese Sea-gull Tourbillon looks better than the TAG and it's a third of the price.

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Old 27 June 2016, 03:46 PM   #100
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4500 what?
Yen...
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Old 27 June 2016, 03:48 PM   #101
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Yen...
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Old 27 June 2016, 05:02 PM   #102
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Perhaps this is why some manufacturers like to bid quite highly on their used pieces. It keeps the perception going.
What? Some manufacturers do that? Incredible, names please

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Well said.

Just like Abby Rosen, Stevie Cohen and the gang constantly bid up prices of some contemporary "artists" like Koons and Basquiat. The cohort own a majority of works and it's in their self interest to keep prices up to place an even higher value on their collections. If people opened their eyes and saw what rubbish Basquiats really are, these gents would each take write downs in excess of $100 -$200m. And don't get me started on Koons.
Well for me most contemporary art is rubbish, but I'm sure some expert would be glad to contradict me and explain to me why some paintings, like the ones thisguy paints in uniform colors, are worth a few hundred K's, cause I never figured out why to say the truth

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I've tried it on today. It feels great, very light and not too bulky on my small wrist

Only Harrods sell the Tourbillon model in the UK and it's all sold out this year.
Euh yeah it's a Tag alright, don't think Thierry is loosing any sleep over it...
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Old 29 June 2016, 03:26 AM   #103
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Did anyone read the watch article in the weekend Wall Street Journal?
I certainly sounded like they had been reading this thread!
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Old 29 June 2016, 03:39 AM   #104
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I think this Chinese Sea-gull Tourbillon looks better than the TAG and it's a third of the price.

this. the cage is so hideous on the tag. nothing special about it
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Old 29 June 2016, 04:05 AM   #105
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When you can have this for under 15k, why even bother wasting oxygen talking about a TAG..





https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/th...ficial-pricing
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Old 29 June 2016, 05:22 AM   #106
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This thread is like the pimple on my old girlfriends ass. It just won't go away.
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Old 29 June 2016, 06:56 AM   #107
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When you can have this for under 15k, why even bother wasting oxygen talking about a TAG...
Because it’s not a sports watch, it’s not a chronograph, it’s not big enough, and most of all, because it didn’t exist when this thread was started.
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Old 1 December 2020, 06:51 AM   #108
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It will resell for nothing.
Unfortunately that hasn't happened!
I'm about to buy one in the UK, cheapest anywhere is £8500.
I think they look great, feel well made and are actually interesting!
Trading my Submariner 114060 as it's just plain and so uninteresting
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Old 1 December 2020, 07:43 AM   #109
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Unfortunately that hasn't happened!
I'm about to buy one in the UK, cheapest anywhere is £8500.
I think they look great, feel well made and are actually interesting!
Trading my Submariner 114060 as it's just plain and so uninteresting
Wow talk about the ultimate thread revival 4 years later lol -

Well good luck with your purchase - please post pics when you make the trade.
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Old 1 December 2020, 08:57 AM   #110
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this thread reaks of brand recognition. (and old thread revival lol)
not knocking patek.
but i do wonder what results a "blind tasting" would yield.

let's not forget Grand Seiko handing all the swiss watch makers their ass on a plate
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Old 3 December 2020, 01:23 AM   #111
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Has TAG blown the market up with its 02T tourbillion watch for $16k?
Does the emperor have no clothes? Is the cat out of the bag, that these watches aren't worth $50,000 to $100,000?
Will multi hundred thousand Pateks stop selling?
Are Pateks way overpriced?
All very loaded questions of course, but interested in opinions.


https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/Th...rera-Heuer-02T
Sorry. Your prediction was an utter fail. What is a “tag”.? Lol.
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Old 3 December 2020, 02:57 AM   #112
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Haha, definitely quite a revival of threads... but even 4 years ago you would think many would realize by then that the functionality of the luxury watch or complexity of the watch has nothing to do with its value or desirability.

Without stating the obvious factors of brand and marketing, the continual existences of these pieces is merely to be an expensive accessory an adult gets or how many likes on instagram lol.

Maybe if we returned to the stone ages the functionality of these pieces will come back.
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Old 6 December 2020, 03:37 AM   #113
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Wow talk about the ultimate thread revival 4 years later lol -

Well good luck with your purchase - please post pics when you make the trade.
I did the trade today but didn't get the Tag after all!
I ended up with a Blancpain fifty fathoms bathyscaphe flyback chronograph, it's the all black ceramic model with an olive sailcloth.
Looks another level compared to the Sub, f385 movement is amazing, beautifully hand finished too.
I can't add pics as usual on my phone, files are too large
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Old 6 December 2020, 01:11 PM   #114
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I did the trade today but didn't get the Tag after all!
I ended up with a Blancpain fifty fathoms bathyscaphe flyback chronograph, it's the all black ceramic model with an olive sailcloth.
Looks another level compared to the Sub, f385 movement is amazing, beautifully hand finished too.
I can't add pics as usual on my phone, files are too large

Wise choice. The Blancpain is a far superior timepiece
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