Would this bother you?

[rushca01]

Bought a new to me 116610 and as soon as I opened it I saw a small issue. Watch was described as excellent condition. Has an original purchase date of 2017. Seller has agreed to take it back no questions, I of course had to wire the money and they are only willing to mail me a check...that’s kind of frustrating... I’m not sure it’s worth the hassle and If I shouldn’t just keep it. I’m leaving Monday for vacation and the mailed check will be sitting in mail box for a week...








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[jenedla]

That would not bother me unless described as BNIB. And...depending on how much I saved vs. buying at an AD.

[rushca01]

Originally Posted by jenedla

That would not bother me unless described as BNIB. And...depending on how much I saved vs. buying at an AD.

Thanks, that’s what I’m trying to determine. It may not be worth it to mess with it and move on.

[roaddog359]

maybe ask for a slight discount. Sellers need to describe accurately. Excellent to me is no damage, scratches, ect.. As close to bnib as you can get.

[J_1964]

If you got a good deal, I would keep it. If it already has it's first blemish, you will have less to worry about. I picked up a 16710 GMT with a small blemish that I intended to be my daily wear.

I kinda wear it with Reckless Abandon, Because It Already Has It's First Scratch!

[BNA/LION]

Nope!

[crowncollection]

if it is not new i would think that is fairly normal for a used watch

[c41006]

It wouldn’t bother me a bit. That alone would not disqualify it from being described as excellent condition.

[rolehex]

Originally Posted by roaddog359

maybe ask for a slight discount. Sellers need to describe accurately. Excellent to me is no damage, scratches, ect.. As close to bnib as you can get.

This is what I would do, Doesn't hurt to tell the buyer your not completely happy with his "Excellent Rating".

[untchble]

I would send it back since it bothers you.

[Tools]

It does look to be in excellent condition and I expect that the seller could turn around and sell it again easily for the same or more.

Used isn't new, and a week wearing it will likely result in even more wear and tear.

Those who cry "gimme more discount" and want to break down everything into how many nickels and dimes they can get out of a transaction dishearten me.

The seller likely knows it's a reasonable deal and is willing to take it back if you are not satisfied; he seems like an honest broker.

[American Jedi]

Not really. Specially if you’re planning on wearing it.


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[Andad]

Originally Posted by Tools

It does look to be in excellent condition and I expect that the seller could turn around and sell it again easily for the same or more.

Used isn't new, and a week wearing it will likely result in even more wear and tear.

Those who cry "gimme more discount" and want to break down everything into how many nickels and dimes they can get out of a transaction dishearten me.

The seller likely knows it's a reasonable deal and is willing to take it back if you are not satisfied; he seems like an honest broker.

x2.

[Swiss Mad!]

The seller should really have highlighted any individual dings/scrapes/scratches etc to be fair to the potential purchaser.

Interpretation of 'excellent condition' obviously varies depending on whether your buying or selling!

If it was me that had purchased that watch and the seller hadn't made me aware of it, I would feel a little disgruntled to say the least.

As others have said, you have to expect some signs of wear, after all it's been worn so it would be unreasonable not to.

However, that's had quite a bang to make an indent in the case like that, so it would have been nice if the seller had at least made you aware of it before you committed to purchase.





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[dmash]

The watch looks like ‘excellent condition WITH a slight ding’. Anybody saying that this shouldn’t have been explicitly outlined in the listing is taking the seller’s side unfairly. I would definitely tell the seller you’re a little disgruntled it was not mentioned, and perhaps ask about a slight discount to remedy the situation.

With that being said, the seller obviously seems like a stand up guy that he is 100% willing to take it back with no questions asked. He could have made a simple mistake of overlooking it, especially if he has a lot of volume to deal with.

[Bob the brush]

It wouldn't bother me either. Just wear it and forget it, you'll soon mask that with other dinks and scratches, your vacation may add some, you never know!

[rushca01]

Thanks for all the replies. Again, no issue with the seller other than the check thing instead of a wire back to me. I would say the deal was fair price wise, not great but not bad seeing as what the market is right now. Scratches don’t bother me near as much as dings, it was purchased with the intent to be a daily beater for me which is part of the reason I would consider keeping it.

[JayB]

Maybe the pictures aren't very clear but the damage looks very minor to me.

You're not going to notice it on the wrist so I'd keep it and forget about it.

[beshannon]

No would not bother me at all

[fskywalker]

Originally Posted by rushca01

Thanks for all the replies. Again, no issue with the seller other than the check thing instead of a wire back to me. I would say the deal was fair price wise, not great but not bad seeing as what the market is right now. Scratches don’t bother me near as much as dings, it was purchased with the intent to be a daily beater for me which is part of the reason I would consider keeping it.

As said by others would not bother me as it is on the lower end and perhaps you can ask for a small price adjustment


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[rushca01]

I know if I tried to sell it I would get hammered by buyers. What’s so frustrating is how a non dealer like myself can spot it as soon as I open the box and the broker/seller said they never it saw it. Huge volumes or not....shame on me for asking more specific questions and for more specific pictures. Just frustrating is all. It still rubs me the wrong way they aren’t willing to wire the money back to me....that upsets me the most.

[nyyankees]

Originally Posted by Tools

It does look to be in excellent condition and I expect that the seller could turn around and sell it again easily for the same or more.

Used isn't new, and a week wearing it will likely result in even more wear and tear.

Those who cry "gimme more discount" and want to break down everything into how many nickels and dimes they can get out of a transaction dishearten me.

The seller likely knows it's a reasonable deal and is willing to take it back if you are not satisfied; he seems like an honest broker.

This...alternatively is the seller has others of the same model perhaps ask to upgrade to the same model in mint condition and in that case I would expect that you would pay the difference in cost and shipping.

[GoingPlaces]

It wasn't bought new, looks fine.

[dmash]

Originally Posted by rushca01

I know if I tried to sell it I would get hammered by buyers. What’s so frustrating is how a non dealer like myself can spot it as soon as I open the box and the broker/seller said they never it saw it. Huge volumes or not....shame on me for asking more specific questions and for more specific pictures. Just frustrating is all. It still rubs me the wrong way they aren’t willing to wire the money back to me....that upsets me the most.

I think they do this because of the fees incurred by sending you back a wire.

[rushca01]

Thanks again for all the replies. I have decided to keep it and move on with life, you can only see it in certain light and if you run your finger across it you can feel it. I'm sure it can be addressed at service some time in the future, it still has 4 years of warranty left on it and was originally purchased at a US AD. Set was complete minus the green seal, hang tag, and white outer sleeve. It did include all books and links including the half link.

[alex_moreno111]

The thought of putting any of those natos on your beautiful watch bothers me more than a ding! (I'm joking) enjoy it very much!!

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by rushca01

Thanks again for all the replies. I have decided to keep it and move on with life, you can only see it in certain light and if you run your finger across it you can feel it. I'm sure it can be addressed at service some time in the future, it still has 4 years of warranty left on it and was originally purchased at a US AD. Set was complete minus the green seal, hang tag, and white outer sleeve. It did include all books and links including the half link.

Great move.

As others said, it fits the loose criteria of excellent. And you’ll have your own love marks soon enough. This tiny ding wasn’t worth the time and hassle to return it.

[superstarmar]

Originally Posted by rushca01

Thanks again for all the replies. I have decided to keep it and move on with life, you can only see it in certain light and if you run your finger across it you can feel it. I'm sure it can be addressed at service some time in the future, it still has 4 years of warranty left on it and was originally purchased at a US AD. Set was complete minus the green seal, hang tag, and white outer sleeve. It did include all books and links including the half link.

It's on the under side and not really noticeable ....
Could easily be addressed at service like you said.

[77T]

I think your decision is fine. Such a slight blemish shouldn’t reduce your enjoyment.

The only way a buyer should consider a return or an accommodation is if Alfred’s - FNFZ4 - questions are answered in advance and you find the watch doesn’t match what you were told.

Alfred did a great job posting his own buying guide in the reference section - and I’ve used it often. I highly recommend it to avoid pitfalls.

Here’s my shortened version:

1) Crystal
Always run finger nail on the rim of the Crystal to check for chips. Or if seller is remote, have him/her do it and report back.

2) Bezel and Insert
Is it original? is it dented?
Is it aligned?
Is it turning properly? (if a rotating bezel)

3) Case
Dents?
Dings?
Corrosion?
Laser Soldering?
Incorrect Polish/Over Polished?

4) Bracelet
Clasp code match with serial number in terms of estimated production date?
What is the condition of the Coronet?
Is there any stretch on the bracelet?
Does it have all links?
Are the screws damaged?
Does the clasp close properly?

5) Movement
Does the date change correctly?
Do the hour and minute hands move smoothly?
Can you feel or hear the rotor inside?
Does watch wind very smoothly?


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[123Blueface]

Originally Posted by rushca01

Thanks again for all the replies. I have decided to keep it and move on with life, you can only see it in certain light and if you run your finger across it you can feel it. I'm sure it can be addressed at service some time in the future, it still has 4 years of warranty left on it and was originally purchased at a US AD. Set was complete minus the green seal, hang tag, and white outer sleeve. It did include all books and links including the half link.

Great decision.
Enjoy in good health.