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18 August 2016, 07:45 AM | #1 |
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Is Usain Bolt clean?
What do you think guys? I'm guessing in a few years' time, they'll find some currently undetectable EPO in his system. I often wonder why they just don't let it go, EPO or no EPO. Who really cares? Just make it entertaining! :)
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18 August 2016, 07:48 AM | #2 |
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Yes, he's just physically way more gifted then 99.99% of the people he runs against.
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18 August 2016, 07:49 AM | #3 |
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No idea. I'll go and search watches on Google.
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Until someone proves otherwise, I'd say yes.
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Sounds like the same sort of sour grapes being aimed at Team GB for punching way above their weight, especially destroying all in their path at the cycling.
Some people should understand and accept that there are others out there who are fitter, faster and stronger.
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18 August 2016, 08:35 AM | #6 |
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Quoting Carl Lewis ... "I say he could be the greatest athlete of all time. But for someone to run 10.03 one year and 9.69 the next, if you don't question that in a sport that has the reputation it has right now, you're a fool. Period."
Incidentally, Carl himself failed drugs test 3 times but was never suspended. Perhaps he knows a thing or two, or just jealous. |
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Given the level of PED use that's occurred and continues to occur in track and field (as well as a whole host of other sports) it's reasonable to raise the question. Personally, I've gotten to the point to where I assume they're more or less all cheating and just try to enjoy the competition, anyway.
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18 August 2016, 10:11 AM | #9 |
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Until it's proven otherwise, gotta say, yep.
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At the competitive level it may simply be a requirement?
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Who can say for sure. He is 6 4 and much taller than any other sprinter so his top speed his higher. If it were 60 meters he'd lose.
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Simple really.
He just takes less steps than most to travel 100 meters. I don't think any drugs are involved.
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I hope not. And I'd guess not.
But today? I'm not putting anything past anyone.
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Clean. Stop hating. If he gets caught I'll eat my words.
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Pretty sure he's close to 2 meters tall ( maybe 6ft 5in ) and as slow as he starts he really rockets the last 25-30 meters. When your competition is way shorter they have to move their legs a lot more times which uses more energy and maybe one of the reasons his finish is spectacular.
I think this is a hate thread and I'm with Ray, I believe he's clean and I offer one of his watches if I'm wrong. Bolt is one of those athletes that is just remarkable at his specialty. As similar to his running as Phelps is in swimming yet you don't hear about dope use with Micheal, other then his Cannabis use which would I think it would be a disadvantage.
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Not a hate thread, just an open discussion.
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Fully agree with this post. Someone like Usain Bolt is test, re-tested, and tested again. I think someone would have found something by now. He is just a freak of nature with his size and ability. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Who really cares.
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Is Usain Bolt clean?
I think so... In all his years of competitive running at the highest levels he would have tested positive. I know people cheat but that guy is Freakin' Fast!
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^^ You must, as you came and posted your dribble on the OP's thread. Brilliant ! Not you Leon, the one above your post
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Is he clean? I'd be 99.99% comfortable saying he is. As others have said, he is probably tested so often, it would boggle most people's minds. For world class athletes, there is too much at stake for them to play dirty. For the ones who get caught, I would guess their egos took control of their brain and the rest is history.
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Even if he is using PED's, what makes you think the rest of the competition isn't?
Regardless dudes stride is crazy due to his frame. |
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Ol Carl Lewis salty
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Seeing the races.. the only place he leads others is last 30-50 meters and that is obvious of his loooong legs (and lesser steps). Also, I find him extremely fit comparing to other athletes and above everyone else(and runners of past era as well). If you have so much fitness, long legs and talent for running, why won't he be the best??
Also.. if he was into drugs he would have beaten his own records which he made at age 22-23. He's unable to beat his own records.. just beating other competitors who are not too great to begin with. So, IMO he's clean! |
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People are suspicious because "greats" like Lance Armstrong were found to be cheats. And the PEDs usually outpace the detection technology. But that doesn't mean Bolt is cheating.
Whoever thinks there isn't huge pressure, and huge gain, from cheating is very naive. |
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Checkout his 200m semifinal race - looks like Fun run - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUgZ...ITvYBwS9zV_CcL
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When any runner (whether doped up or not) wins any footrace, it is generally because his strides were longer and, therefore, he took fewer steps over the given distance. Quote:
World records in events as short as 800m have been set by men under 5'8". This has more to do with their stride length than their cadence. In turn, stride length is a function of the athlete's power and flexibility moreso than their height. Technically, taller people can make longer strides. But then again, tall people's body mechanics are less economical for running. World class sprinters tend to be around 6 feet tall. Beyond this height, it can take too long for runners to get upright from the starting block. What makes Usain Bolt exceptional is that he is 6'4"+ and has the power and biomechanics of runners who are several inches shorter. It's almost like scaling his competitors up proportionally, which usually isn't the case. In the end, we have no evidence that Usain Bolt cheated and so it isn't fair to cast aspersions on him. But this isn't a story about height. There are tens of thousands of men who are taller than Usain Bolt -- if height were a major benefit, then every olympic 100m finals would be full of giants |
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I believe he is clean. Just read this compelling argument...
Is he too good to be true? "There are two ways you can be really, really fast. The length of your stride, or your cadence – how quickly you can move your legs. Bolt has the strides of a giant. When he is fully launched, each one of his strides is about 3.0 metres. And then, the stunning thing. Near the end, instead of that stride shortening, which is usual with sprinters, it lengthens to 3.1 metres!"
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I've read that article as well. It's a good read and very compelling. There you have one former great and a very good athlete giving their opinion. Personally, I think Bolt is clean but then I thought the same about Lance, whom also was subject to tests after test but somehow he got away with it. I really hope that Bolt is clean, as he is spectacular in full flight.
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