2016 Nissan GT-R, is this a great deal?

[Moving Chicane]

I think $80-$85K for a new GTR is in the ballpark. With taxes, title, etc. it would be less than $95K out the door and that's in the general ballpark.

Why that one has been sitting while the dealership has sold others; that worries me. Perhaps a non-standard black/red or black/blue interior? Some sort of repaired damage? 0 mile but previously titled car? Make sure you understand; and if the dealer really has sold that many GTR's other than this (might be hype).

Good luck!

[swils8610]

As some have already said...make sure it wasn't damaged in transit or on the lot.


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[azguy]

Honestly, day one depreciation on that car will be horrific

[racer24]

thanks for all the info. I will go pay them an visit, and ready to walk away unless I am getting a killer deal. Corvette dealership is next door.

[racer24]

I still remember the crazy old days that you buy a brand new GTR and drive it for half year and sell it for a profit.

[Naples09]

Originally Posted by Almostlucid

Flooring on this is probably a few hundred a month. They may take a loser to get out from under it. Also in a month or so banks may no longer loan $ on it as a new vehicle.


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If this unit has been on the lot for 700 days, the dealer probably owns it. Most floor plan lenders will not go over 18 months.

[wantonebad]

Originally Posted by Naples09

If this unit has been on the lot for 700 days, the dealer probably owns it. Most floor plan lenders will not go over 18 months.

This was my thought as well, didn't know anything about the financing restrictions on timing but just figured they weren't dealing on the car because they didn't have to.

Also just cause the new GTR is coming out in 2018 no one knows yet if it's going to be better...

[RichM]

Got it.

[Danny83]

They paid more they 85k for the car when they got it. At this point they would rather sit and wait for someone to trade something in thats how they will see a profit. Trust me when you offered the 85k if they could do it they would have got your number and called you 20 times already ....keep lookin you can find a used black series GTR for that price. Get a used 2015 or 2016. Have you driven one ?.

[gtnator]

I just looked this car up on Manheim for you. Manheim as you may know is the pricing market place for USED cars that dealers use in pricing and auctions. It does not have new cars however, you can get a sense for how much this car will be worth once you drive it off the lot. And prices are real time so they take into consideration the entire environment, including the fact that a new body style may come out next year.

2016 Nissan GT-R 2D Coupe Premium with 3,000 miles would go for $77,993 in auction (which is the same price a dealer will give you if you traded it in). And they list retail price (obviously the price the dealer would sell it back to you) at $96,000. Again this is for a car with 3k miles. So I would say, $85k is a decent price. I hope that helps.

[Naples09]

Originally Posted by Danny83

They paid more they 85k for the car when they got it. At this point they would rather sit and wait for someone to trade something in thats how they will see a profit. Trust me when you offered the 85k if they could do it they would have got your number and called you 20 times already ....keep lookin you can find a used black series GTR for that price. Get a used 2015 or 2016. Have you driven one ?.

I agree with Danny. Invoice has to be around 12% or so off, plus some MFG incentives on top.

[Kingair]

Originally Posted by Danny83

They paid more they 85k for the car when they got it. At this point they would rather sit and wait for someone to trade something in thats how they will see a profit. Trust me when you offered the 85k if they could do it they would have got your number and called you 20 times already ....keep lookin you can find a used black series GTR for that price. Get a used 2015 or 2016. Have you driven one ?.

How do they drive ?

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[wantonebad]

Originally Posted by Danny83

They paid more they 85k for the car when they got it. At this point they would rather sit and wait for someone to trade something in thats how they will see a profit. Trust me when you offered the 85k if they could do it they would have got your number and called you 20 times already ....keep lookin you can find a used black series GTR for that price. Get a used 2015 or 2016. Have you driven one ?.

this^^^^

[racer24]

Originally Posted by Danny83

They paid more they 85k for the car when they got it. At this point they would rather sit and wait for someone to trade something in thats how they will see a profit. Trust me when you offered the 85k if they could do it they would have got your number and called you 20 times already ....keep lookin you can find a used black series GTR for that price. Get a used 2015 or 2016. Have you driven one ?.

thanks, Danny. Yes, I have driven both on and off the track. the main concern with used GTR is how the previous owner treats it, how many launch controls used, etc. an used GTR may have very few miles, but depending on how it was driven, the transmission and clutches might be in bad shape. and they are not cheap to replace.

[racer24]

Originally Posted by Kingair

How do they drive ?

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they are beasts! they make you feel like you are a much better driver than you actually are. and sometimes, that backfires on you big time. LOL

[Kingair]

Originally Posted by racer24

they are beasts! they make you feel like you are a much better driver than you actually are. and sometimes, that backfires on you big time. LOL

Can imagine that they are beasts !

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[achenator]

Originally Posted by racer24

thanks, Danny. Yes, I have driven both on and off the track. the main concern with used GTR is how the previous owner treats it, how many launch controls used, etc. an used GTR may have very few miles, but depending on how it was driven, the transmission and clutches might be in bad shape. and they are not cheap to replace.

meh. there are good aftermarket trans repair specialists that can fix for a couple K. Had a 2010 GT-R for 5 years. Took it from stock to 1500 hp. I wouldn't hesitate to buy a stock 13+ at a good price.

[Watchflair]

Since it's a year old here are some recent Manheim results for 2016 Premium models:


02/22/17 Manheim Orlando Factory $78,500 716 Above Silver 6GT A Yes
02/16/17 Manheim Mississippi Factory $76,250 3,392 Avg Black 6G A Yes
02/21/17 Manheim Georgia Regular $71,700 5,394 Avg Black 6CY A Yes
02/01/17 Manheim Chicago Factory $74,200 5,516 Avg Black 6GT A Yes
01/26/17 Manheim Pennsylvania Regular $71,200 8,662 Avg Black 6GT A Yes
02/01/17 Manheim Orlando Factory $71,600 13,297 Avg White 6GT A Yes

Also here are results for 2009 models. Not much of a swing in terms of depreciation:

02/22/17 Manheim Houston Lease $56,000 22,090 Above Gray 6GT A Yes
02/15/17 Manheim Nevada Regular $55,000 20,118 Avg Gray 6G A Yes
02/07/17 Manheim California Regular $35,000 44,322 Below Silver 6CY A No
01/13/17 Manheim Nashville Regular $55,750 21,567 Avg Black 6GT A Yes
01/10/17 Manheim San Francisco Bay Regular $53,500 18,763 Avg Black 6GT A Yes
12/09/16 Manheim Portland Regular $53,500 25,145 Avg Blue 6CY A Yes
04/21/16 Manheim Arena Illinois Regular $44,000 53,296 Avg 6CY M No

[Dr.Brian]

Originally Posted by swils8610

That's BS.


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Absolute BS.
Remind him that it's not an Altima you're buying and that you're not wasting your time negotiating on site if you're not even on the same page. Luxury dealers will sell you much more expensive vehicles over the phone, wire the money and do the paperwork at delivery at your home.
Give them one more chance than keep looking.

[superdog]

any updates?

[racer24]

Originally Posted by superdog

any updates?

No go on 85K. They are not budging. I'm in no rush either.

[superdog]

Originally Posted by racer24

No go on 85K. They are not budging. I'm in no rush either.

good for you.

[Mystro]

Tell them to pound sand then. That car will rot on the lot or they will take it to auction for a heck of a lot lower sale price than $85k.

Originally Posted by racer24

No go on 85K. They are not budging. I'm in no rush either.

[racer24]

Originally Posted by Mystro

Tell them to pound sand then. That car will rot on the lot or they will take it to auction for a heck of a lot lower sale price than $85k.

LOL. They actually raised the price from 89K to 92K.

[Maybelline]

Tell them to enjoy the gtr museum.

[rr-nyc]

Originally Posted by 77T

The asking price is about right. If you want to save almost $20K then consider a pre-owned 2016 GT-R equipped the same but with 10K miles on the odo.
You won't get that one for $85K - had they been willing to sell at that price it'd be gone already IMHO.

This

Other suggesting to start even lower and work up is not a strategy. Go in with what you're willing to pay. The car is already heavily discounted. Getting a couple grand more is doable but another $7k is highly unlikely

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by Maybelline

Tell them to enjoy the gtr museum.

that would be rich.

Reminds me of when a salesman told me "nobody wants to sell an s5"

This was 2011 and they were pretty hot back then but I still burst out laughing and said "no kidding? I thought maybe you were a car salesman! I must be confused."

[RHIII]

When it comes to cars -- my .02 is set your price point -- and be prepared to walk if 'they' can't get there (within reason of the vehicle you're looking at)

I've found, in my personal experiences that 'they' (dealerships) tend to not turn down a fair offer that's on the table...


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[RHIII]

Originally Posted by superdog

Ok. So now it's hard to trust them.

Have to agree with Seth on this one...I've made many an initial car deal over the phone or email!!


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[Spartacus]

I would go after the 2017s. I swung by the same dealership two weeks ago to look at the same car, did not appear they were in a rush to sell. I'm surprised that even the red GT-R has not moved.