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Old 27 October 2021, 02:39 AM   #1
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Icon8 Timepiece Gentleman selling fake $60k Diamond AP...

Just caught it in the latest video and I see the watch is for sale on their website.

How does a fake watch make it that far?? How does it even make it past Andrew buying it?

It's such a bad fake and I immediately spotted it when he held it up at 3:28 (youtube.com/watch?v=fWyyu-3oApU) - just look at that date.

If that's not already clear enough, look at the movement

For sale now just $62k

Screencap from video where Anthony just bought it.


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Old 27 October 2021, 04:06 AM   #2
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Old 27 October 2021, 04:24 AM   #3
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Wow that's horrible.
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Old 27 October 2021, 05:30 AM   #4
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Old 27 October 2021, 06:22 AM   #5
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I'm sure it's just a typo where they meant to continue the aftermarket description.

Aftermarket movement...

Like the Greek ship Theseus philosophical question. How many times can you replace a piece and call it aftermarket until the watch is no longer the brand's watch?
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Old 27 October 2021, 06:52 AM   #6
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Calling parts aftermarket sounds a lot better than fake/counterfeit.

It's troubling how the watch marketplace and industry has just accepted that.

Even Chrono24, Ebay, etc. allow counterfeit parts, as long as they just label it "aftermarket".

One example could be "custom" dials where dial-makers print "Rolex". Any Diamond crusted dial where the maker again will print AP/Patek/Rolex on the dial (as on the dial in this example).

As soon as you use a copyrighted trademark you no longer have an aftermarket part, you have an illegal counterfeit part. That these are then further openly sold without anyone batting an eye is astonishing.
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Old 27 October 2021, 10:48 AM   #7
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What a mess, how are these guys still in business with practices like this?
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Old 28 October 2021, 11:44 AM   #8
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Also I don’t understand how their prices are incredibly higher than a reputable dealer like DavidSW who has the same 15407OR that’s arguably in a much better shape. TPG sells it for $10k more!

https://davidsw.com/shop/watch-class...-openworked-2/
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Old 8 December 2021, 12:14 PM   #9
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Timepiece Gentleman selling fake $60k Diamond AP...

You gotta hand it to him…he does come up with new and creative ways to take peoples’ money.




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Old 8 December 2021, 12:18 PM   #10
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Old 10 December 2021, 09:37 AM   #11
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Old 10 December 2021, 09:41 AM   #12
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Oh boy, that's not good...
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Old 10 December 2021, 09:42 AM   #13
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Old 10 December 2021, 11:38 AM   #14
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Lol what a joke
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Old 11 December 2021, 03:43 AM   #15
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oh crap, the movement
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Old 11 December 2021, 05:01 AM   #16
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For anyone not familiar with AP, this is an actual AP Caliber 3120



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Old 11 December 2021, 05:23 AM   #17
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Another feather in the cap for these clowns
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Old 11 December 2021, 05:41 AM   #18
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Old 11 December 2021, 05:45 AM   #19
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So are they knowingly selling a fake AP? What the...?
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Old 14 December 2021, 02:31 PM   #20
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Watch business coaching program? wtf?
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Old 14 December 2021, 03:14 PM   #21
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Old 14 December 2021, 03:15 PM   #22
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Watch business coaching program? wtf?

I’d offer that class for half the price!


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Old 14 December 2021, 03:20 PM   #23
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Old 18 December 2021, 12:25 PM   #24
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I'm no expert on authentication, but there seems to be another questionable "bussdown" AP 15400OR on their website currently. Listed for $37k.
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Old 18 December 2021, 04:39 PM   #25
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Timepiece Gentleman selling fake $60k Diamond AP...

It does look odd compared to the others i saw. But I’m no AP expert.
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Old 6 January 2022, 01:41 PM   #26
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Whatever happened to this? Any resolution elsewhere on any other sites? Watch get sold? Taken down?


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Old 8 January 2022, 12:35 AM   #27
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I too wonder what ever happened
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Old 8 January 2022, 12:42 AM   #28
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The watch was up for months, eventually I'm sure they sold it to someone with the logic of "yeah it's aftermarket but factory would cost twice or three times as much" .. they had actually said that earlier in an episode.

So most likely someone out there is running around with it.
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Old 22 January 2022, 11:42 PM   #29
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There are a lot of fools who will buy from these clowns…


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Old 28 January 2022, 01:58 AM   #30
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I watched a few youtube videos of his. Posts a lot of videos with little content. It seems like he's more into trying to become a reality tv star
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