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Old 14 January 2018, 08:12 PM   #1
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Old 14 January 2018, 08:15 PM   #2
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the now we have some info Much appreciated
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Old 14 January 2018, 09:20 PM   #3
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This is the best of the bunch.
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Old 14 January 2018, 09:28 PM   #4
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Tend to agree that’s the stand out for me also.

These are the other offerings I really like but again upper to super high price tier.

Actually the Ce Royal Oak tourb would be an ideal single piece for me but even a collection consolation and a few limbs I’m sure to be a few quid short

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Old 14 January 2018, 09:40 PM   #5
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This one is pretty awesome.
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Old 14 January 2018, 11:47 PM   #6
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This one is stunning!
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Old 15 January 2018, 01:17 AM   #7
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Old 15 January 2018, 01:25 AM   #8
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figured this is the best place to add new info.

Non production, concept piece, and not for sale per Hodinkee

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/au...in-introducing
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Old 15 January 2018, 01:32 AM   #9
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Now this is a standout piece, and with some true horological significance. I say well done AP overall, some great new releases mixed in with the endless rainbows.
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Old 15 January 2018, 01:36 AM   #10
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figured this is the best place to add new info.

Non production, concept piece, and not for sale per Hodinkee

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/au...in-introducing
I wonder why... maybe AP can't reliably produce them yet considering the technical challenges
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Old 15 January 2018, 01:38 AM   #11
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I wonder why... maybe AP can't reliably produce them yet considering the technical challenges
they like to torture us.

Its a huge achievement. Im guessing its going to take some time, but no way they spent 5 years on that and then not continue to develop it into a viable commercial piece.
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Old 15 January 2018, 01:42 AM   #12
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they like to torture us.

Its a huge achievement. Im guessing its going to take some time, but no way they spent 5 years on that and then not continue to develop it into a viable commercial piece.
They haven't mastered the rules yet.
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Old 15 January 2018, 01:48 AM   #13
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They haven't mastered the rules yet.
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Old 15 January 2018, 02:18 AM   #14
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they like to torture us.

Its a huge achievement. Im guessing its going to take some time, but no way they spent 5 years on that and then not continue to develop it into a viable commercial piece.
Like the RD1, gets announced as a prototype first then the following year comes out as the commercial piece...I do not see why this would be any different.
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Old 15 January 2018, 02:28 AM   #15
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They haven't mastered the rules yet.
They are not masters of their domain... They may have prematurely shot their wad with all of these coloured ROOs, such that they kind of have a mess on their hands at the moment.

(Seinfeld and Arrested Development fans should love this synergy...)
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Old 15 January 2018, 02:37 AM   #16
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What was AP’s RD1?
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Old 15 January 2018, 02:46 AM   #17
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What was AP’s RD1?
it became the Supersonnerie apparently.
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Old 15 January 2018, 03:46 AM   #18
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A lot of rightful plaudits for this concept watch, but IMO AP still haven't addressed the main problem with its RO perpetuals, which is that the power reserve is too low. Only 40 hours, and usually less than that in the real world. Not good enough for a perpetual at this price.

However, I think they bumped up the power reserve when they moved from the RD#1 concept to the production model, so there is still hope.
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Old 15 January 2018, 03:49 AM   #19
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A lot of rightful plaudits for this concept watch, but IMO AP still haven't addressed the main problem with its RO perpetuals, which is that the power reserve is too low. Only 40 hours, and usually less than that in the real world. Not good enough for a perpetual at this price.

However, I think they bumped up the power reserve when they moved from the RD#1 concept to the production model, so there is still hope.
At least its not a manual wind ALS PC. IMO self winding is essential on a watch as complicated to set as a PC. Ive never understood why they did that. 40hours or 60 doesnt matter to me as its on a winder when off the wrist regardless.
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Old 15 January 2018, 04:55 AM   #20
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They are not masters of their domain... They may have prematurely shot their wad with all of these coloured ROOs, such that they kind of have a mess on their hands at the moment.

(Seinfeld and Arrested Development fans should love this synergy...)
No Contest.

Larry David won an Emmy for that Epi, wish he'd been in it.
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Old 15 January 2018, 09:43 AM   #21
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At least its not a manual wind ALS PC. IMO self winding is essential on a watch as complicated to set as a PC. Ive never understood why they did that. 40hours or 60 doesnt matter to me as its on a winder when off the wrist regardless.
That's a good point. In fact AP does supply its PCs with a dedicated watch-winder, so it's not all bad. But it's like they are admitting defeat or they don't think the PR is an important issue.
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Old 15 January 2018, 03:52 PM   #22
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That's a good point. In fact AP does supply its PCs with a dedicated watch-winder, so it's not all bad. But it's like they are admitting defeat or they don't think the PR is an important issue.
it does make the fact that that watch is so thin even more impressive though as it has a rotor and not even a micro rotor.
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Old 17 January 2018, 04:15 AM   #23
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Good video of RD2, well, watch really slim!

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Old 18 January 2018, 01:36 AM   #24
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Another angle.
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Old 18 January 2018, 02:50 AM   #25
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The leap year and am/pm indicator need to be redone. I'm not really liking the placement of those dials. Everything else is amazing.
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Old 18 January 2018, 05:30 AM   #26
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Impressive piece, but the more I look at it, the less I like the layout of the subdials. For some reason I think moonphases look better at 6. The chin caused by the day/night indicator and leap year indicators on the month/day of the week is also not my preference.
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Old 18 January 2018, 08:35 AM   #27
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I also prefer days/months written around the circumference rather than as sunrays.
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Old 19 January 2018, 12:01 PM   #28
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