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micks_address · 16 January 2019, 05:57 AM

Hi folks,

Something fishy going on here. I posted a wanted add on watchuseek last night for an Omega aqua Terra skyfall seamaster. I was contacted by someone there over night who when I checked their profile they were banned from there. They sent me an email with watch for sale and pictures.

See email below. I then asked if they could provide any references and they supplied the following users from this forum.

He sent me this note

Good to hear from you, You can contact Tanner, fidalgobay,
WatchCoalition Via private message about me. Just tell them Nurav819.
I can go a bit low of my price. I can let it go for 2500 gbp.

Get back to me, So we can proceed.

Thanks

I joined this forum and messaged each user. They each in turn messaged me back and vouched for him.

I was almost at point where I was going to proceed with the deal but felt it was way too risky to do bank transfer. I could get a cheap flight to Glasgow and suggested that. Initially he seemed to agree to this but has gone quiet.

Interestingly I did some googling and found the exact same pictures he had sent me on e Bay (I need more posts to provide link)

The date on the card even matches. So obviously something very fishy going on here.

Who are Tanner, fidalgobay,
WatchCoalition and why are they vouching for someone who seems to be less than genuine?

Thanks,
Mick

--------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Nurav819
Date: Tue 15 Jan 2019, 10:31
Subject: Re: Aqua Terra
To: my email

Hide quoted text

For sale is Omega Seamaster Aqua Terra Mid Size Chronometer in like
NEW condition.

The watch is a safe queen, The watch has no scratches, dents or dings.

Comes with box and papers

Asking a fair price of $3,500 shipped and insured to your doorstep.

Payment by Wire transfer.

Thanks

BakerView · 16 January 2019, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by micks_address

Hi folks,

Something fishy going on here. I posted a wanted add on watchuseek last night for an Omega aqua Terra skyfall seamaster. I was contacted by someone there over night who when I checked their profile they were banned from there. They sent me an email with watch for sale and pictures.

See email below. I then asked if they could provide any references and they supplied the following users from this forum.

He sent me this note

Good to hear from you, You can contact Tanner, fidalgobay,
WatchCoalition Via private message about me. Just tell them Nurav819.
I can go a bit low of my price. I can let it go for 2500 gbp.

Get back to me, So we can proceed.

Thanks

I joined this forum and messaged each user. They each in turn messaged me back and vouched for him.

I was almost at point where I was going to proceed with the deal but felt it was way too risky to do bank transfer. I could get a cheap flight to Glasgow and suggested that. Initially he seemed to agree to this but has gone quiet.

Interestingly I did some googling and found the exact same pictures he had sent me on e Bay (I need more posts to provide link)

The date on the card even matches. So obviously something very fishy going on here.

Who are Tanner, fidalgobay,
WatchCoalition and why are they vouching for someone who seems to be less than genuine?

Thanks,
Mick

--------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Nurav819
Date: Tue 15 Jan 2019, 10:31
Subject: Re: Aqua Terra
To: my email

Hide quoted text

For sale is Omega Seamaster Aqua Terra Mid Size Chronometer in like
NEW condition.

The watch is a safe queen, The watch has no scratches, dents or dings.

Comes with box and papers

Asking a fair price of $3,500 shipped and insured to your doorstep.

Payment by Wire transfer.

Thanks

For what it's worth, I've never heard of this dude and am interested how they got a "messaged me back" reply. FAKE NEWS

micks_address · 16 January 2019, 07:10 PM

Once I have ten posts I post screen shots of the private messages. I've no reason to make this up.

micks_address · 16 January 2019, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by micks_address

Once I have ten posts I post screen shots of the private messages. I've no reason to make this up.

It's a pretty devious con. The users have been member since 2017 in some cases.

micks_address · 16 January 2019, 07:15 PM

Copied from pm I received from FidalgoBay

Quote:

Originally Posted by FidalgoBay

Did a deal with Nurav819 and he was an awesome buyer. Buy or sell with confidence.

Quote:

Originally Posted by micks_address

Hi,

i hope you don't mind the pm. I am buying a watch from Nurav819 and he said to pm you re a reference for him

Thanks,
Mick

micks_address · 16 January 2019, 07:17 PM

I messaged again to see if he could provide further info and got this reply

Quote:

Originally Posted by FidalgoBay

His address is 93 Kilmarnock Road, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, G41 3PG. And his email address is nnurav819

Hope that helps.

Quote:

Originally Posted by micks_address

Could you provide maybe some more details like location or email address?

Quote:

Originally Posted by FidalgoBay

Did a deal with Nurav819 and he was an awesome buyer. Buy or sell with confidence.

Quote:

Originally Posted by micks_address

Hi,

i hope you don't mind the pm. I am buying a watch from Nurav819 and he said to pm you re a reference for him

Thanks,
Mick

MoosicPa · 16 January 2019, 10:13 PM

Knappo 1307 · 16 January 2019, 10:52 PM

What does this have to do with TRF?

micks_address · 16 January 2019, 11:14 PM

What does trf mean? The Rolex forum? The users that vouched for seller are users or supposed users on this forum

micks_address · 16 January 2019, 11:21 PM

The seller also suggested I could get a reference from watchnet from

You can chat with hector martinez (Hec8822), Search for his name or
ID. I will

usling15 · 16 January 2019, 11:48 PM

Intrigued to see where this goes .

Gtecko · 17 January 2019, 12:17 AM

my own two cents, if it is taking you this amount of work and time to verify the seller...I would move on. Find the watch somewhere else my friend.

if a deal is not straightforward and you get one a gut feeling (which you are having now) that this is suspect, just move on. You are talking about 1000s of dollars - buy the seller :)

BakerView · 17 January 2019, 01:02 AM

Well micks,
I don't know how they hijacked my PM ability, but they are no one I know and I sure don't live in Scotland. In having a look at the address, it appears to be a flat in a working class part of town. Like Gtecko said......move on brother, there's no watch to be had there.

77T · 17 January 2019, 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by micks_address

What does trf mean? The Rolex forum? The users that vouched for seller are users or supposed users on this forum

Regardless, read the TRF rules and abide by them is my best suggestion. We don’t accept disputes that were started somewhere else.

By now I believe the issue should be closed.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

micks_address · 17 January 2019, 01:24 AM

I'm not disputing anything..I just wanted other users to be aware of actions happening on this forum that may lead to fradulent deals happening. I very nearly bought this do called watch mainly on the strength of pms I received from three users on this forum. Perhaps all three accounts were hijacked but I'd urge caution in dealing with any of the three users I listed or any emails received from the seller..

MoosicPa · 17 January 2019, 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 77T

Regardless, read the TRF rules and abide by them is my best suggestion. We don’t accept disputes that were started somewhere else.

By now I believe the issue should be closed.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

I disagree totally, if TRF members PM's are being hacked, I think we should know. If unscrupulous fraudsters are able to send bogus endorsements through legit TRF members is not a concern of yours, to others here I am sure it is.

padi56 · 17 January 2019, 01:55 AM

I will say this once and once only do not bring any disputes from other forum to TRF.

Tools · 17 January 2019, 10:42 AM

To add for clarity.

There is no member Nurav819 on this Forum.

16 January 2019, 05:57 AM	#1
micks_address "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Dublin Posts: 8	Users vouching for someone / dodgy deal Hi folks, Something fishy going on here. I posted a wanted add on watchuseek last night for an Omega aqua Terra skyfall seamaster. I was contacted by someone there over night who when I checked their profile they were banned from there. They sent me an email with watch for sale and pictures. See email below. I then asked if they could provide any references and they supplied the following users from this forum. He sent me this note Good to hear from you, You can contact Tanner, fidalgobay, WatchCoalition Via private message about me. Just tell them Nurav819. I can go a bit low of my price. I can let it go for 2500 gbp. Get back to me, So we can proceed. Thanks I joined this forum and messaged each user. They each in turn messaged me back and vouched for him. I was almost at point where I was going to proceed with the deal but felt it was way too risky to do bank transfer. I could get a cheap flight to Glasgow and suggested that. Initially he seemed to agree to this but has gone quiet. Interestingly I did some googling and found the exact same pictures he had sent me on e Bay (I need more posts to provide link) The date on the card even matches. So obviously something very fishy going on here. Who are Tanner, fidalgobay, WatchCoalition and why are they vouching for someone who seems to be less than genuine? Thanks, Mick --------- Forwarded message --------- From: Nurav819 Date: Tue 15 Jan 2019, 10:31 Subject: Re: Aqua Terra To: my email Hide quoted text For sale is Omega Seamaster Aqua Terra Mid Size Chronometer in like NEW condition. The watch is a safe queen, The watch has no scratches, dents or dings. Comes with box and papers Asking a fair price of $3,500 shipped and insured to your doorstep. Payment by Wire transfer. Thanks

17 January 2019, 01:02 AM	#13
BakerView "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Real Name: "BG" Location: PacNW Watch: that I'm Jonesin 4 Posts: 626	Well micks, I don't know how they hijacked my PM ability, but they are no one I know and I sure don't live in Scotland. In having a look at the address, it appears to be a flat in a working class part of town. Like Gtecko said......move on brother, there's no watch to be had there. __________________ 116610LN, 326934BL, 116610LV, Tudor BB41, IWC tzc, Aerospace EVO, Tudor BB41, 116622, Fortis-705.21.11, Luminox original diver The watch you give up today for the next grail may one day become your grail: Rolex:116520, 16570, 216570, 116710LN, 16610LV, 16700, 116600 Panerai:PAM176, PAM1024, PAM88 Breitling:6.75, Aerospace x2, Chrono 44 GMT, Blackbird/utc, Bentley GT IWC:3717.

17 January 2019, 01:55 AM	#17
padi56 "TRF" Life Patron Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Peter Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng Watch: ing you. Posts: 52,229	I will say this once and once only do not bring any disputes from other forum to TRF. __________________ ICom Pro3 All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only. "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever." Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again. www.mc0yad.club Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder

17 January 2019, 10:42 AM	#18
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,037	To add for clarity. There is no member Nurav819 on this Forum. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

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16 January 2019, 07:10 PM	#3
micks_address "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Dublin Posts: 8	Once I have ten posts I post screen shots of the private messages. I've no reason to make this up.

16 January 2019, 10:13 PM	#7
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16 January 2019, 10:52 PM	#8
Knappo 1307 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Jason Location: USA Watch: Sea Dweller Posts: 8,557	What does this have to do with TRF?

16 January 2019, 11:14 PM	#9
micks_address "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Dublin Posts: 8	What does trf mean? The Rolex forum? The users that vouched for seller are users or supposed users on this forum

16 January 2019, 11:21 PM	#10
micks_address "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Dublin Posts: 8	The seller also suggested I could get a reference from watchnet from You can chat with hector martinez (Hec8822), Search for his name or ID. I will

16 January 2019, 11:48 PM	#11
usling15 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Virginia Posts: 253	Intrigued to see where this goes .

17 January 2019, 12:17 AM	#12
Gtecko "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Halifax Posts: 518	my own two cents, if it is taking you this amount of work and time to verify the seller...I would move on. Find the watch somewhere else my friend. if a deal is not straightforward and you get one a gut feeling (which you are having now) that this is suspect, just move on. You are talking about 1000s of dollars - buy the seller :)

17 January 2019, 01:24 AM	#15
micks_address "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Dublin Posts: 8	I'm not disputing anything..I just wanted other users to be aware of actions happening on this forum that may lead to fradulent deals happening. I very nearly bought this do called watch mainly on the strength of pms I received from three users on this forum. Perhaps all three accounts were hijacked but I'd urge caution in dealing with any of the three users I listed or any emails received from the seller..

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