Black Deepsea to be discontinued?

[askdanny]

It used to be that the case size for the Sea-Dweller and the Sea-Dweller Deepsea were markedly different. But now that the Sea-Dweller has jumped from 40mm to 43 — just 1mm below the Deepsea, could the black Deepsea be at risk of being discontinued? Sure, depth ratings are different for both watches, but the Deepsea is essentially a niche watch, a niche that can be easily filled with the James Cameron. How many prospective buyers will look at the 43mm Single Red Line Sea-Dweller and decide on the black Deepsea instead because, hey, 4000ft just doesn’t cut it?


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[Swiss Mad!]

I hear you, but if any DSSD was going to be discontinued my guess would be it was the JC version.
The black face is the classic
The JC is the Special.
Specials don't tend to be around for ever.
Just my thoughts

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[Ruud Van Driver]

Originally Posted by Swiss Mad!

I hear you, but if any DSSD was going to be discontinued my guess would be it was the JC version.
The black face is the classic
The JC is the Special.
Specials don't tend to be around for ever.
Just my thoughts

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I mostly go along with this but I can't imagine too many people choosing the black DSSD over the SD43 unless, like me, they're not overly fussed on it because it looks too similar to a Sub from anything more than ten feet away.

[Swiss Mad!]

Originally Posted by Ruud Van Driver

I mostly go along with this but I can't imagine too many people choosing the black DSSD over the SD43 unless, like me, they're not overly fussed on it because it looks too similar to a Sub from anything more than ten feet away.

I know what you mean about the SD43/Sub family resemblance.
I actually think Rolex should have upgraded the Sub to be what the SD43 is now...if that makes sense, and not made it part of the Sea Dweller family at all - actually made it the new Sub - minus the escape valve obvs..
What I mean is, the SD43 for me is pretty much now the perfect every day dive/tool watch whatever you want to call it.
The DSSD is a specialist bit of kit and the way it sits high off the wrist don't really make it practical for everyday use.
I know lots of members do wear one everyday & that's fine - hey, today I'm wearing my 47mm Pan & let's be honest it's not exactly 'practical' but what the hell - it's a lifestyle choice!
The SD43 is deffo on my radar and I may even trade the Sub to get it as, like you say, they are very close in terms of aesthetics.


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[Clay]

I have a Black dial Deepsea as my daily wearer.

A fabulous watch!!!

Passed on the JC addition as I preferred the classic look of the Black Dial!

Passed on the New Sea Dweller as the addition of the Cyclopes, in my opinion, turned it into a Submariner.

[Kiddodoc]

Originally Posted by Clay

I have a Black dial Deepsea as my daily wearer.

A fabulous watch!!!

Passed on the JC addition as I preferred the classic look of the Black Dial!

Passed on the New Sea Dweller as the addition of the Cyclopes, in my opinion, turned it into a Submariner.

Disagree on the new Sea Dweller. Just got mine and all I can say is wow! Wider bracelet, bigger than the sub but yet not as big nor thick as the DSSD. I could live without my cermic subs if I was a one watch guy as long as I had he new SD43.

[Toivonen]

Originally Posted by Clay

I have a Black dial Deepsea as my daily wearer.

A fabulous watch!!!

Passed on the JC addition as I preferred the classic look of the Black Dial!

Passed on the New Sea Dweller as the addition of the Cyclopes, in my opinion, turned it into a Submariner.

[brandrea]

If you try both references on, you’ll see that the DSSD wears significantly larger than the SD43. I think the SD43 is more comparable to a Sub date, although imo it’s a huge improvement.

Having said that, the DSSD has been out for almost 10 years now so I’m inclined to think it’s near the end of its run.

[1William]

I think that the DSSD will stay in the line-up if for no other reason than it is probably one of the most advance dive watches in the market. The technology and design are amazing and why discontinue your ultimate deep diver? I could see the JC dial going away but not the DSSD.

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by Clay

I have a Black dial Deepsea as my daily wearer.

A fabulous watch!!!

Passed on the JC addition as I preferred the classic look of the Black Dial!

Passed on the New Sea Dweller as the addition of the Cyclopes, in my opinion, turned it into a Submariner.

Originally Posted by Toivonen

I do find this a little bit odd, given that all previous Sea dwellers, up to and including the 116600 were much closer to the equivalent submariner at the time - same movement, bracelet (excepting the removable extension link), same diameter, same bezel insert and hands (except the 116600), same crown.

The only thing the SD43 has in common with the Sub is the cyclops and the crown. Both of which are generic to many other Rolex models.

[Tampashooter]

Originally Posted by Ruud Van Driver

I mostly go along with this but I can't imagine too many people choosing the black DSSD over the SD43 unless, like me, they're not overly fussed on it because it looks too similar to a Sub from anything more than ten feet away.

Why I no longer own an SD43. I own other Subs,it didn't look different in reality. The deep sea however, I kept and wear all the time. Different animal.

[Tampashooter]

Originally Posted by Devildog

I do find this a little bit odd, given that all previous Sea dwellers, up to and including the 116600 were much closer to the equivalent submariner at the time - same movement, bracelet (excepting the removable extension link), same diameter, same bezel insert and hands (except the 116600), same crown.

The only thing the SD43 has in common with the Sub is the cyclops and the crown. Both of which are generic to many other Rolex models.

The cyclops was a mistake. Full stop. You say the "only" thing is the cyclops. Its a pretty big only thing. The lack of cyclops was one of the main reasons many, like myself, fell in love with the real dwellers. So much cleaner looking. If I want to wear something with a cyclops, i'll wear one of my subs.

The 116600 was the last real dweller, imo.

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by Tampashooter

The cyclops was a mistake. Full stop. You say the "only" thing is the cyclops. Its a pretty big only thing. The lack of cyclops was one of the main reasons many, like myself, fell in love with the real dwellers. So much cleaner looking. If I want to wear something with a cyclops, i'll wear one of my subs.

The 116600 was the last real dweller, imo.

Agreed to a point. The lack of cyclops was what drew me to the 16600 from the 16610 I had before. But the 16600 worked without it.

The 116600 is spoiled by the inset date window. It's one of those "once seen never unseen" moments for me. Much as the cyclops is a visual deterrent for you, the inset date is the same for me, even if it is "traditonal".

I'd say the 16600 was the last of the "real" Sea Dwellers. The bezel on the 116600 is to fussy for the size of watch. And ceramic isn't really in keeping with what the Sea Dweller was all about