Public Announcement: Beware of "Bassethounds"

[Andad]

Originally Posted by Puffy

copy that Eddie

now, where are those other Daytona wrist shots I requested mate??

Will post them shortly after I see your Expy II macros, MATE.

Hijacking the bosses thread is a banning offence Puffy.

[Nicko]

I sure hope so Dalip. As I said before, I believe he's an honest guy, hell, you spent time with him, I'm sure you can vouch, but then again, we're not the ones who have time and treasure invested here...

Originally Posted by dalip

I have also had a long call from Tristan - As Steve has said above, a positive outcome is still possible: and that outcome is Steve's money being returned in a timely fashion. Tristan has indicated to me that he is onto this and it will be done soon. That's good to hear. Right now it's not about what's happened up to this point - it's about what is to happen. Line in the sand for now.

I sincerely hope that this is cleared up soon.

[esm]

oh man... really do hope all gets cleared up ASAP.

have had a few offline chats with tristan, and he seems like an upfront, open, honest dude. understanding his current family duties, it must be tough for him and his family.

im sure Steveo wants to get this sorted ASAP as well.

all we can do is sit back and hope we can be a big happy family again (soon-ish).

[Nicko]

I am patiently waiting, this really upsets me, I feel like this place is a family and when the water is murkey it gets me very anxious. Come on, lets get this cleared up.

Originally Posted by esm

oh man... really do hope all gets cleared up ASAP.

have had a few offline chats with tristan, and he seems like an upfront, open, honest dude. understanding his current family duties, it must be tough for him and his family.

im sure Steveo wants to get this sorted ASAP as well.

all we can do is sit back and hope we can be a big happy family again (soon-ish).

[Puffy]

Originally Posted by directioneng

Will post them shortly after I see your Expy II macros, MATE.

Hijacking the bosses thread is a banning offence Puffy.

ok mate, i'll post them soon, promise

will let you know when online

[Nicko]

Can we keep to the subject at hand. PMs are a great tool.

Originally Posted by Puffy

ok mate, i'll post them soon, promise

will let you know when online

[R1@160@alltimes]

I still hope Tristan will make right by Steve, and direct contact between the two parties is a good start.

[TempoKing]

This saga is a nightmare
It seems abnormal to me - for Tristan not to complete a deal.

10-12 days ago he was telling me all about his Olympic dial Datejust
(he bought a few months ago) that is on tour with Sotheby's in China
and ready to be auctioned off in October.

Also a man that loves good food and who invited me to eat together in one
of Spain's most famous restaurants (average lunch tab 600-700 euro)
...not able to refund 2800 euro.?

I am sure there is a serious reason for the delay.

[Rotorhead]

Originally Posted by Tools

I have no dog in this issue..

However, remember that the most successful con men are able to put on a persona that provides a sense of comfort, camaraderie, and security.. They come across as warm, generous and caring....... and may even fabricate endearing personal situations....

Until they get the score, or scores that was the intent all along............

Don't judge on an Internet, virtual reality of how you "think" somebody is... judge them on the facts and actual actions....

At this point, facts and actions - more than this one instance - are contrary to what some of you seem to think...........

This is one of the things that worry me about this forum. I would think that it would be easy for a con man to infiltrate this site, make a bunch of posts and gain everyone's trust, maybe sell a bunch of low end items, then put the big scam into play. As we have seen, wire transfers are involved to reverse, not like protesting to your CC companies or having the transaction disputed with Paypal.

[Mosco]

Originally Posted by Rotorhead

This is one of the things that worry me about this forum. I would think that it would be easy for a con man to infiltrate this site, make a bunch of posts and gain everyone's trust, maybe sell a bunch of low end items, then put the big scam into play. As we have seen, wire transfers are involved to reverse, not like protesting to your CC companies or having the transaction disputed with Paypal.

Has NOTHING to do with this situation.

[Dr.Brian]

Originally Posted by Rotorhead

This is one of the things that worry me about this forum. I would think that it would be easy for a con man to infiltrate this site, make a bunch of posts and gain everyone's trust, maybe sell a bunch of low end items, then put the big scam into play. As we have seen, wire transfers are involved to reverse, not like protesting to your CC companies or having the transaction disputed with Paypal.

Seriously? $4000 is not a big scam for anyone. No one else is saying "Yeah, he's got my watch/money too!" If you're going to invest a year into developing a "persona" on a forum to scam people, the payday's going to be a lot more than that. Besides, people actually know him, his family, etc. He's not some faceless anonymous poster. These kinds of things happen on the forums all the time. Things happen, problems compound, people get lazy and/or distracted and there you have it. It's almost always solved with a bit of time after the big blow up. Unfortunately, regardless of the outcome, I fear that Tristan's reputation may be tarnished for some time.

[rpryan55]

I'm rooting for both Steve and Tristan. Let's hope they both come out winners. In the meantime, thanks to Steve for the heads up just in case, God forbid, there's something foul afoot.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Rotorhead

This is one of the things that worry me about this forum. I would think that it would be easy for a con man to infiltrate this site, make a bunch of posts and gain everyone's trust, maybe sell a bunch of low end items, then put the big scam into play. As we have seen, wire transfers are involved to reverse, not like protesting to your CC companies or having the transaction disputed with Paypal.

Well for one thing the only things that allowed for Sale on TRF is watches and watch related goods.Now 99% of all watch related items sold via TRF are not low end or low cost items I can assure you.And any speculation about any con man/ men to infiltrate TRF or have been on TRF for that purpose is just complete rubbish.But as I see it at the moment its down to Tristan to clear this matter with Steve, until then we should all reserve any judgment.

[Welshwatchman]

There's nothing to say that Tristan's not going to make this right.

It just needs to be done now, today I reckon.

Actions, not words.

[Nicko]

This is exactly what I told Steveo. 4 grand is nothing, and even less for a chap like Tristan. Maybe a couple hundred grand, but 4k, get real. People know him and his family and a scammer doesn't do this. So, all all those who have no idea should remain mute and just watch. This is not uncommon and could haopen to anyone, remain calm.

Originally Posted by Dr.Brian

Seriously? $4000 is not a big scam for anyone. No one else is saying "Yeah, he's got my watch/money too!" If you're going to invest a year into developing a "persona" on a forum to scam people, the payday's going to be a lot more than that. Besides, people actually know him, his family, etc. He's not some faceless anonymous poster. These kinds of things happen on the forums all the time. Things happen, problems compound, people get lazy and/or distracted and there you have it. It's almost always solved with a bit of time after the big blow up. Unfortunately, regardless of the outcome, I fear that Tristan's reputation may be tarnished for some time.

[1watchaholic]

One subtle theme that disturbs me flowing through this thread is that $4000 is NOT a lot of money. I realize this is the Rolex Forum and Rolex's cost a pretty penny. So, large transactions happen here all the time. Some buy and sell Rolex's like many do Invicta's. But for many it may have taken a very long time to buy their first and maybe only Rolex watch. In this man's humble opinion $4K IS significant, and was a large enough amount to start this thread. $4K to a man in a bind is like a million dollars and would be worth a scammer's time. I am NOT calling the seller a scammer do not twist my point. The point is if your pockets are so deep that you won't miss $4k...PM me to get my Paypal account so $4k can wind up in my watch fund!

[Nicko]

Not saying it's not a lot of money, but not enough in this case. If this was a scam then it would have been for much more. Doesn't add up is all I'm saying. For me, it's a lot and I would be yelling louder than Steveo. But......in this case had this been a scam it would have been more, much more.

One subtle theme that disturbs me flowing through this thread is that $4000 is NOT a lot of money. I realize this is the Rolex Forum and Rolex's cost a pretty penny. So, large transactions happen here all the time. But in this man's humble opinion $4K is significant, and was a large enough amount to start this thread. $4K to a man in a bind is like a million dollars and would be worth a scammer's time. I am NOT calling the seller a scammer do not twist my point. The point is if your pockets are so deep that you won't miss $4k...PM me to get my Paypal account so $4k can wind up in my watch fund!

[walds11]

A scam is a scam, no matter how much money IMO.

Originally Posted by Nicko

Not saying it's not a lot of money, but not enough in this case. If this was a scam then it would have been for much more. Doesn't add up is all I'm saying. For me, it's a lot and I would be yelling louder than Steveo. But......in this case had this been a scam it would have been more, much more.

[harry in montreal]

How bad was the lack of communication that this had to happen? Were funds sent with no telephone number? Without better information, this whole post seems like a rush to make this a public matter. Harry

[mjm800]

Originally Posted by harry in montreal

Without better information, this whole post seems like a rush to make this a public matter. Harry

The money was sent on Aug 4th! I don't see a rush here if anything amazing patients on the part of Steve. If I sent money and had no tracking number within two days I am going to freak out.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by walds11

A scam is a scam, no matter how much money IMO.

Would agree but until its proved that this is a scam then we all should reserve judgement Any man is innocent until proved guilty but at the moment thats up to Tristan to prove one way or the other..

[mailman]

Originally Posted by Nicko

This is exactly what I told Steveo. 4 grand is nothing, and even less for a chap like Tristan. Maybe a couple hundred grand, but 4k, get real. People know him and his family and a scammer doesn't do this. So, all all those who have no idea should remain mute and just watch. This is not uncommonand could haopen to anyone, remain calm.

I beg to differ. Scammers do this all the time, maybe just not here on TRF.

Here's a perfect example of the same amount;

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-Submariner...t=Wristwatches

Originally Posted by Nicko

Not saying it's not a lot of money, but not enough in this case. If this was a scam then it would have been for much more. Doesn't add up is all I'm saying. For me, it's a lot and I would be yelling louder than Steveo. But......in this case had this been a scam it would have been more, much more.

Not necessarily. Here's a potential case of a member being scammed out of $2800. $2800, $4000 or $10. It's all a lot of money to me if I worked for it.

Or by you saying "in this case", leads someone to beleive you might have kowledge of this type of behavior before. Maybe not.

Originally Posted by walds11

A scam is a scam, no matter how much money IMO.

Exactly. Now it's all up to Tristan and the only thing is for him to make it right...today

[JJ Irani]

I suppose at this point it's only fair to ask the 64,000 dollar question...............

Why didn't Tristan just send Steve the watch which he paid for?

JJ

[Welshwatchman]

Originally Posted by harry in montreal

How bad was the lack of communication that this had to happen?

Excellent communication from Steve. Not so much from Tristan. I've seen the correspondence.

Originally Posted by harry in montreal

Were funds sent with no telephone number?

No.

Originally Posted by harry in montreal

Without better information, this whole post seems like a rush to make this a public matter. Harry

I can't agree with your thinking. It's just not making sense to me.

[Welshwatchman]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

I suppose at this point it's only fair to ask the 64,000 dollar question...............

Why didn't Tristan just send Steve the watch which he paid for?

JJ

That's a question for when Tristan's already repaid Steve.

Hopefully that's happened today though there's no actual news of it yet.

[Nicko]

Originally Posted by mailman

I beg to differ. Scammers do this all the time, maybe just not here on TRF.

Here's a perfect example of the same amount;

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-Submariner...t=Wristwatches



Not necessarily. Here's a potential case of a member being scammed out of $2800. $2800, $4000 or $10. It's all a lot of money to me if I worked for it.

Or by you saying "in this case", leads someone to beleive you might have kowledge of this type of behavior before. Maybe not.



Exactly. Now it's all up to Tristan and the only thing is for him to make it right...today

I agree, but that ebay example is kinda not the same thing we're talking about. This is a guy who has established himself here on TRF, had provided countless hours of his time uncovering scams on eBay and has even went so far as have people over his house, meet the wife and kids and publish his address! Now, don't misinterpret my words, I'm not sticking up for anyone, if I had to stick up for someone it would be Steveo because he's out the money for the time being, I'm just saying that this doesn't appear to me to be a scam, but I may be wrong, let's just hope I am. If this were some run of the mill tosser. BTW mod or no mod, I am very offended by you insinuating that I may have knowledge of this type of behavior, I am using deduction, nothing more, so for you to say what you are saying is not only offensive but downright rude, being a mod does not give you the right to accuse me of criminal behavior.

[Welshwatchman]

Just remember that this is NOT about anyone other than Steve and Tristan.

[Nicko]

Originally Posted by mailman

Or by you saying "in this case", leads someone to beleive you might have kowledge of this type of behavior before. Maybe not.

You need to clarify this remark, this is unfair. How can you make this type of accusation? Mod or no mod.

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by Jocke

My guess someone have to made an apology but at the moment I can't figure it out who.

That would have to be YOU, Jocke............for the number of times you've made me look like a fool on TRF!!

[mailman]

Originally Posted by Nicko

I agree, but that ebay example is kinda not the same thing we're talking about. This is a guy who has established himself here on TRF, had provided countless hours of his time uncovering scams on eBay and has even went so far as have people over his house, meet the wife and kids and publish his address! Now, don't misinterpret my words, I'm not sticking up for anyone, if I had to stick up for someone it would be Steveo because he's out the money for the time being, I'm just saying that this doesn't appear to me to be a scam, but I may be wrong, let's just hope I am. If this were some run of the mill tosser. BTW mod or no mod, I am very offended by you insinuating that I may have knowledge of this type of behavior, I am using deduction, nothing more, so for you to say what you are saying is not only offensive but downright rude, being a mod does not give you the right to accuse me of criminal behavior.

I never accused you of any criminal behavior. You have stated your opinions all thru the thread. I just stated mine by using deduction as well.