Journe current list prices for CS and Centigraphe

[Flex368]

Does anybody know the current list prices for the following references please?

Chronometre Souverain 40mm in RG (new dial version) and PT
Centigraphe in RG and PT

Thank you.

[SROB]

I've had a great experience dealing with the Miami boutique.... I'd advise reaching out to them.

[texasmade]

According to Govberg's website on the preowned pieces, a PT Centigraphe is $63k.

[Jay (Eire)]

I thought the CS was in the mid $30's for RG and high $30's or maybe touching $40 for PT. Just going by memory but that's ballpark.

PT Centigraphe note above sounds about right too.

[Skyrider01]

Originally Posted by SROB

I've had a great experience dealing with the Miami boutique.... I'd advise reaching out to them.

I second that.

[Flex368]

Thanks for the information, guys.

I´d prefer to buy somewhere in Europe though so a CHF or EUR list price would still be interesting.

[tng11]

My local grey offered their complete PT Centigraphe Black Label for around $39K USD. I think that's a fairer price than what Govberg has listed.

OP - call the Geneva boutique. They're really friendly and helpful over the phone.

[Flex368]

Originally Posted by tng11

OP - call the Geneva boutique. They're really friendly and helpful over the phone.

I will give them a call. Thanks.

[Flex368]

For anyone who is interested, I´ve now received the CHF list prices from the Geneva boutique including 8% VAT.

CS RG = 32400 CHF
CS PT = 36300 CHF

Centigraphe RG = 60700 CHF
Centigraphe PT = 64600 CHF

[texasmade]

Almost on par in USD pricing. I wonder if they’ll discount as much as AD’s do in the US.

[Flex368]

What is the usual discount at ADs/boutiques in the US?

[texasmade]

I've heard 25% without much negotiating except for the Bleu which is 0.

[tng11]

Originally Posted by texasmade

I've heard 25% without much negotiating except for the Bleu which is 0.

Not to mention, the waitlist for the CB at the US boutiques are quite long.

Thankfully, Geneva accepts deposits and only quotes a 3-4 month wait.

[rfatm3f]

NY says they have 28 people on the CB list.

Good news is I want a CS platinum.

[archer75]

Originally Posted by Flex368

For anyone who is interested, I´ve now received the CHF list prices from the Geneva boutique including 8% VAT.



CS RG = 32400 CHF

CS PT = 36300 CHF



Centigraphe RG = 60700 CHF

Centigraphe PT = 64600 CHF

I own a CB and sometimes thinking over to get a black label centigraphe. I also suggest you to consider Centigraphe anniversary.


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[GreenLantern]

Out of curiosity, why is the CB in such high demand? Is it similar to what the SS Daytona represents for Rolex?

[archer75]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

Out of curiosity, why is the CB in such high demand? Is it similar to what the SS Daytona represents for Rolex?

Despite it is the entry level FPJ, because of its tantalum case and blue dial, it is very popular. As the production of the dial is very difficult, they are not able to cope with the demand thus makes it more attaractive for the collectors.


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[texasmade]

It’s also the most affordable FPJ. Look at the Patek Nautilus and Aquanaut. Demand is through the roof for both of those watches.

[Jay (Eire)]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

Out of curiosity, why is the CB in such high demand? Is it similar to what the SS Daytona represents for Rolex?

It's in high demand primarily because it's materially cheaper than any of his other watches (even adjusting for regular discounts on the next model up, CS). That positive tailwind is supplemented by the what others have mentioned regarding the case material and dial, and the combination of those two. It's a unique look, perfectly executed.

None of the above (unfortunately) mean that it trades like a Daytona or Nautilus. While it's probably the best in terms of residual value for any current Journe, it still does not demand a premium (unless you are one of those three people who purchased one for a significant premium at auction this year).

[Flex368]

Originally Posted by archer75

I own a CB and sometimes thinking over to get a black label centigraphe. I also suggest you to consider Centigraphe anniversary.

I really like the black label Centigraphe but the boutique told me you already need to own another FPJ in order to get a black label watch.

I´ve read somewhere on a watch review web site that this is no longer the case, does anybody know for sure?

The anniversary Centigraphe is something special indeed but I prefer the PT version by far.

[archer75]

Originally Posted by Flex368

I really like the black label Centigraphe but the boutique told me you already need to own another FPJ in order to get a black label watch.



I´ve read somewhere on a watch review web site that this is no longer the case, does anybody know for sure?



The anniversary Centigraphe is something special indeed but I prefer the PT version by far.

It is still the case, only FPJ owners can get black label. You need to provide serial number of the watch you own to place an order. By this way, they give an appreciation to existing customers. However, you can get a boutique edition which is the same but in rose gold.



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[SROB]

A biased, new CB owner's perspective... it has some unique aspects that make it very desirable [some listed above]. Obviously it, like all Joune pieces and all pieces [i.e., Daytona] aren't for everyone.

[Flex368]

Originally Posted by archer75

It is still the case, only FPJ owners can get black label. You need to provide serial number of the watch you own to place an order. By this way, they give an appreciation to existing customers. However, you can get a boutique edition which is the same but in rose gold.

Good to know, thanks for confirming.

If I decide to go with a CS in RG I´d pick the ivory dial, though. Tried it on last year and really liked it a lot.

[Jay (Eire)]

Originally Posted by Flex368

Good to know, thanks for confirming.

If I decide to go with a CS in RG I´d pick the ivory dial, though. Tried it on last year and really liked it a lot.

Love these dials. The PT variation of this is my favourite CS. Will be picking up a 38mm when one pops up in the used market.

[archer75]

Originally Posted by Flex368

Good to know, thanks for confirming.



If I decide to go with a CS in RG I´d pick the ivory dial, though. Tried it on last year and really liked it a lot.

Quite nice - I am not a RG guy, perhaps yet but they are stunning. Part of it is having a nice watch and part of it is the feeling of ownership of such a nice brand and overall I am very happy about owning a FPJ.


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[Flex368]

Originally Posted by archer75

Quite nice - I am not a RG guy, perhaps yet but they are stunning.

Same here, it´d be my first RG piece if I decide to go with it. I usually also prefer YG and white metals.

Another question for the experienced FPJ buyers, do ADs and boutiques usually give the same discounts or is it better to buy at an AD?

[SROB]

I bought my CB from a boutique, no discount. I do know, you get a longer warranty going through a boutique.

[tonupbklyn]

Originally Posted by SROB

I bought my CB from a boutique, no discount. I do know, you get a longer warranty going through a boutique.

is this true?? how long is warranty on those purchased at boutique? and does it transfer over to new owners?

[GreenLantern]

Originally Posted by SROB

I bought my CB from a boutique, no discount. I do know, you get a longer warranty going through a boutique.

Originally Posted by tonupbklyn

is this true?? how long is warranty on those purchased at boutique? and does it transfer over to new owners?

To my knowledge anyone who buys their Journe new from a Boutique, Espace, or Authorized Retailer can get their warranty extended by registering their piece online: https://clientsfinaux.fpjourne.com/v...extension.html

[SROB]

I "believe" a boutique gives you an extra yr warrantee