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2careless · 22 June 2008, 10:30 AM

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....m=130231871223

I've reported it.

tudorman8276 · 22 June 2008, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 2careless

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....m=130231871223

I've reported it.

The oval link jub's were made in the USA. Cannot speak to the Mexican or South American versions.

You cannot see it on the clasp, but these were made in the USA and have a triangle on the clasp with JB stamped in it. (JB Champion out of New York).

Hope this helps.

Stan.

2careless · 22 June 2008, 11:21 AM

You sure?

tudorman8276 · 22 June 2008, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by 2careless

You sure?

If you google "JB Champion" - you will have your answer!

The stamp quality of the crown on the folding clasp on some of the earlies versions was very poor. There is a SOLID GOLD buckle/clasp (JB) on eBay that shows the same poor quality of the crown stamp.

Stan.

springer · 22 June 2008, 12:29 PM

That bracelet is a JB, USA made bracelet, looks 100% genuine. I have one. It was not as good a quality as the C&I USA made bracelet. The crown was a poorly made replica of the Rolex crown, and the inner clasp has a crown that usually is missing one of the circles on the right side above the crown point. Now my question is why was it reported as counterfeit, as I see nothing that indicates it is counterfeit and everything I see indicates it is genuine?

springer · 22 June 2008, 12:31 PM

Yes were're sure, what did you base your opinion on?

Terry Newton · 22 June 2008, 01:36 PM

I think it was probably reported as a mistake. It was probably assumed that because it was not Swiss Made Rolex that it was illegal. It is genuine USA Made as stated. Seems like an honest misunderstanding.

Terry Newton

2careless · 22 June 2008, 01:44 PM

I've reported again to ebay about my mistake. Sorry. Springer you can spot all the fakes from now on. It's all yours. Hope you have 2400 hours a day to net them all. Good luck.

toph · 22 June 2008, 01:58 PM

out of interest, i have never seen one of these before, how long was this bracelet produced for and on what models

springer · 22 June 2008, 02:16 PM

Chris, 50's and 60's, for USA bands. Maybe 70's, but I've never seen one on a 70's Rolex. The band is a nice quality band, but the crown stampings weren't the best.

paypalbid · 22 June 2008, 03:13 PM

I noticed you guys been reporting "questionable" Rolex buckles and bracelets. Have you guys seen Ebay pulling these items ? I put them on my watching list and they seem to stay.

I do notice that Ebay pull the questionable watches. I'll continue to monitor these items and see if Ebay take any action against buckles and bracelet

tudorman8276 · 22 June 2008, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by paypalbid

I noticed you guys been reporting "questionable" Rolex buckles and bracelets. Have you guys seen Ebay pulling these items ? I put them on my watching list and they seem to stay.

I do notice that Ebay pull the questionable watches. I'll continue to monitor these items and see if Ebay take any action against buckles and bracelet

....ones I post as fake. 99% o0f them are pulled. Stan.

toph · 22 June 2008, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by springer

Chris, 50's and 60's, for USA bands. Maybe 70's, but I've never seen one on a 70's Rolex. The band is a nice quality band, but the crown stampings weren't the best.

Thanks for that- you learn something new every day

springer · 23 June 2008, 08:44 AM

paypalbid, who are "you guys" regarding your post on Rolex buckles? You might have better luck directing your question to the person that discussed that item. I for one can't help you on that one as I know nothing about buckles, except that you need one with a strap band. LOL

paypalbid · 23 June 2008, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by springer

paypalbid, who are "you guys" regarding your post on Rolex buckles? You might have better luck directing your question to the person that discussed that item. I for one can't help you on that one as I know nothing about buckles, except that you need one with a strap band. LOL

TudorMan has been doing alot of Ebay reporting on Rolex buckles and bracelet.

tudorman8276 · 24 June 2008, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by paypalbid

TudorMan has been doing alot of Ebay reporting on Rolex buckles and bracelet.

....if you go back thru the watchout section and open the posts and the corresponding links, you WILL see that 99% of them WERE PULLED.

Hope this helps.

Stan.

22 June 2008, 10:30 AM	#1
2careless "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Melbourne, AU Watch: Pepsi Posts: 4,370	Questionable bracelet http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....m=130231871223 I've reported it.

22 June 2008, 12:29 PM	#5
springer 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,114	That bracelet is a JB, USA made bracelet, looks 100% genuine. I have one. It was not as good a quality as the C&I USA made bracelet. The crown was a poorly made replica of the Rolex crown, and the inner clasp has a crown that usually is missing one of the circles on the right side above the crown point. Now my question is why was it reported as counterfeit, as I see nothing that indicates it is counterfeit and everything I see indicates it is genuine? __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

22 June 2008, 12:31 PM	#6
springer 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,114	Yes were're sure, what did you base your opinion on? __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

22 June 2008, 01:36 PM	#7
Terry Newton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Terry Newton Location: Michigan Watch: Rolex TT GMT II c Posts: 6,644	I think it was probably reported as a mistake. It was probably assumed that because it was not Swiss Made Rolex that it was illegal. It is genuine USA Made as stated. Seems like an honest misunderstanding. Terry Newton __________________ Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth "Z" SS Date Submariner "Z" TT GMT-Master IIc

22 June 2008, 01:58 PM	#9
toph "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: ChrisTOPHer Location: Sydney Watch: Rolex, Brellum, Posts: 12,601	out of interest, i have never seen one of these before, how long was this bracelet produced for and on what models __________________ "Where no counsel is the people fall, but in the multitude of counselors there is safety." Member No.# 11795

22 June 2008, 01:44 PM	#8
2careless "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Melbourne, AU Watch: Pepsi Posts: 4,370	I've reported again to ebay about my mistake. Sorry. Springer you can spot all the fakes from now on. It's all yours. Hope you have 2400 hours a day to net them all. Good luck.

22 June 2008, 02:16 PM	#10
springer 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,114	Chris, 50's and 60's, for USA bands. Maybe 70's, but I've never seen one on a 70's Rolex. The band is a nice quality band, but the crown stampings weren't the best. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

22 June 2008, 03:13 PM	#11
paypalbid Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: So Cal Posts: 107	I noticed you guys been reporting "questionable" Rolex buckles and bracelets. Have you guys seen Ebay pulling these items ? I put them on my watching list and they seem to stay. I do notice that Ebay pull the questionable watches. I'll continue to monitor these items and see if Ebay take any action against buckles and bracelet

23 June 2008, 08:44 AM	#14
springer 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,114	paypalbid, who are "you guys" regarding your post on Rolex buckles? You might have better luck directing your question to the person that discussed that item. I for one can't help you on that one as I know nothing about buckles, except that you need one with a strap band. LOL __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

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