765 AVI for “R” 1016 Good deal swap?

[Tri-National-Man]

Hi guys.. So I recently acquired an amazing piece - A 1964/5 Breitling 765 AVI aka “Raquel Welch” in stunning unpolished condition..The dial patina is fall-in-love-with glorious (although very hard to convey in photos..).. I’ve been offered a rather nice “R” serial 1016 Explorer.. In good condition but no box or docs..As a straight swap.. Good deal or not?

[exador]

Your Breitling is worth $15 - 17k. The Explorer?

[Lol-x]

The Breitling is a beauty at 41mm.
Although the 1016 "R" is also highly desirable it is 36mm and without box and papers I'd pass.
The chronograph panda dial Breitling is superior to me in terms of collectability.

[tenerific]

If the economics make sense (I don’t know what you paid for the breitling) I would 100% trade, especially if you don’t have any explorers. The two BEST explorers imo are the 6610 and the 1016 R. Pretty much anything between the 6610 and 1016 R I find bleh, unless it’s tropical or tiffany stamped. Could also care less about box and papers.


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[jackruff]

vintage watches age differently albeit with themes..Unless we can see the watches we don't know their idiosyncrasies so?...

[springer]

I would keep the Breitling.

https://monochrome-watches.com/breit...tches-part-ii/

[daOnlyBG]

Originally Posted by Tri-National-Man

...I recently acquired an amazing piece - A 1964/5 Breitling 765 AVI aka “Raquel Welch” in stunning unpolished condition..The dial patina is fall-in-love-with glorious (although very hard to convey in photos..).. I’ve been offered a rather nice “R” serial 1016 Explorer..

Look at the way you described each watch. I haven't seen the two specimens you're choosing between, but I can already tell that the Breitling would fetch a higher premium amongst serious collectors, if monetary value is what you're going after. I mean, hey- the upside on vintage choice Breitlings are far, far greater than common Rolexes. And that's coming from the likes of Aurel Bacs, John Goldberger, etc.

And if it's horological value, the answer above still applies.

It's not as though you're choosing the finest Movado or finest Zodiac vs. a decent Rolex. You're choosing between a collector's Breitling and a mid-tier collector's Rolex. If the Explorer came with box and papers maybe it'd be a closer choice, but not here.

[mbc]

Love the 1016 (i have two) but with patience not that hard to find great examples -- i passed on a Yachting a few years ago and still regret it...

[Tri-National-Man]

Wow, not what I was expecting answer-wise from the ROLEX forum..! Yeah, the Breitling is not going to be straight-swapped with the 1016..
Thank you for your positive input guys, check out the pics!
https://ibb.co/fX9h9qS
https://ibb.co/x1N6ZYc
https://ibb.co/V3L6bjX

[athom]

it make only sense if you - personally - prefer the 1016 ! No matter what the others are saying. Which one would make you happier to wear?!

[Xeer]

Originally Posted by Tri-National-Man

Wow, not what I was expecting answer-wise from the ROLEX forum..! Yeah, the Breitling is not going to be straight-swapped with the 1016..
Thank you for your positive input guys, check out the pics!
https://ibb.co/fX9h9qS
https://ibb.co/x1N6ZYc
https://ibb.co/V3L6bjX

I'm a huge fan of the Explorer and the 1016 is a true grail for me (I've owned many examples of Explorers but the 1016 stays in my permanent collection). But to any serious enthusiast, that Breitling is pure collector's quality. I'd keep the Brietling.

[ROGERB]

Wow a "which would you rather" on THIS forum where the Rolex finished SECOND!

(i'D KEEP THE BREITLING TOO....shhhh)
R

[dhknola]

The Breitling is so much more interesting.
1016's are having a moment in the sun, but I find them too small and boring.

[Tri-National-Man]

..amazing sub dial..