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Abdullah71601 · 28 April 2017, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by THC

Settle down all, the draft selections will not be known for several years.. Abdullah, agree with your synopsis of Bears, but it all starts with a QB...

This year didn't have a great QB class. A lot of hype about a couple guys, but those guys aren't Andrew Luck. Sacrificing other strong needs for an iffy 8-5 QB is a bonehead move.

breitlings · 28 April 2017, 11:38 AM

It will be interesting to see if the redskins pick "Danny style" (3 wr in the 2nd round all busted) or try to pretend they are an NFL team "Scotty style".

csfischer20 · 28 April 2017, 11:52 AM

Funny the Texans had to draft a Qb. They better hope he's good after the osweiler mess. I'm a Denver fan and didn't like Osweiler when he was backing up Peyton.

GB-man · 28 April 2017, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by csfischer20

Funny the Texans had to draft a Qb. They better hope he's good after the osweiler mess. I'm a Denver fan and didn't like Osweiler when he was backing up Peyton.

Have to wonder if they wanted the Texas kid Mahomes.

bdex75 · 28 April 2017, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by csfischer20

Funny the Texans had to draft a Qb. They better hope he's good after the osweiler mess. I'm a Denver fan and didn't like Osweiler when he was backing up Peyton.

As a colts fan it just sucks they got Watson. Was never a fan of his but the dude just wins big football games. And it always seems we have to play big games against them late in the year.

On a positive note we drafted a Hooker!!!

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locutus49 · 28 April 2017, 12:51 PM

Trubitsky could be the next Tom Brady, or more likely, the next Ryan Leaf. Time will tell. I like Mahomes II as a QB and will watch his career with interest.

sea-dweller · 28 April 2017, 12:53 PM

Christian McCaffrey has been selected by the Panthers...

locutus49 · 28 April 2017, 12:54 PM

He was a good grab. I like that kid. Great skills.

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Originally Posted by sea-dweller

Christian McCaffrey has been selected by the Panthers...

kilyung · 28 April 2017, 01:00 PM

Dang it. What I don't get is, why didn't Elway trade up to get OJ Howard???

csfischer20 · 28 April 2017, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bdex75

As a colts fan it just sucks they got Watson. Was never a fan of his but the dude just wins big football games. And it always seems we have to play big games against them late in the year.

On a positive note we drafted a Hooker!!!

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He looks tough. I don't know a lot about him. I'm glad the broncos got some O line help. I'm still not sold on our QB's and I thought they'd trade up to get McAffrey.

droptopman · 28 April 2017, 01:05 PM

Da Bears...not bagging on the selection but to give up picks was an interesting move.

Cmon Hawks. Lock down CB or OL.

kilyung · 28 April 2017, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by csfischer20

He looks tough. I don't know a lot about him. I'm glad the broncos got some O line help. I'm still not sold on our QB's and I thought they'd trade up to get McAffrey.

Yeah but there was no way we could reasonably trade up to #7 to get McCaffrey.

AzPaul · 28 April 2017, 01:26 PM

Okay Ted Thompson, here it is, served up on a big fat silver platter for you.
Let's see what you do . . . . . . . .

AzPaul · 28 April 2017, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AzPaul

Okay Ted Thompson, here it is, served up on a big fat silver platter for you.
Let's see what you do . . . . . . . .

GB-man · 28 April 2017, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by droptopman

Da Bears...not bagging on the selection but to give up picks was an interesting move.

Cmon Hawks. Lock down CB or OL.

Lol but they had third pick! They really thought the 9ers wanted him? Even if they did, they would have to wildly overpay. It just makes no sense to pay that price.

kilyung · 28 April 2017, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by AzPaul

Can't say I'm surprised.

breitlings · 28 April 2017, 01:33 PM

Think the redskins got a good 1st pick in J. Allen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbp5ghNZrOk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Jh5-8R7YDc

manhattanproj · 28 April 2017, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

No comment on "the other stuff". Kap needs a system built around his skill set. He's not plug and play on just any team. That's his liability. He has few places to go where he'll fit the system and those teams don't need him.

how many qbs in the league are plug and play? you build a system around the qb. you dont ask brady to play in the panthers scheme and vice versa.

kap was a throw away fr winning the super bowl.

droptopman · 28 April 2017, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

Lol but they had third pick! They really thought the 9ers wanted him? Even if they did, they would have to wildly overpay. It just makes no sense to pay that price.

Agreed. Does not make sense. They must really, really, really like him...

Hawks must not have anyone they wanted as they traded down. Some thought they might take CB White LSU. They may get a shot at UW CB King in later round and he has size and skill set to fit in their D.
We r on the clock

droptopman · 28 April 2017, 01:39 PM

Lol never mind we just traded down again. We must not like anyone...

GB-man · 28 April 2017, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by droptopman

Agreed. Does not make sense. They must really, really, really like him...

Hawks must not have anyone they wanted as they traded down. Some thought they might take CB White LSU. They may get a shot at UW CB King in later round and he has size and skill set to fit in their D.
We r on the clock

My bills took white. Glad to have a CB who seems as seasoned as possible. We will need him right away.

droptopman · 28 April 2017, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

My bills took white. Glad to have a CB who seems as seasoned as possible. We will need him right away.

Nice. High rated CB. Likely first year starter on most teams.

ddub66 · 28 April 2017, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

Lol but they had third pick! They really thought the 9ers wanted him? Even if they did, they would have to wildly overpay. It just makes no sense to pay that price.

That was my initial thought too, GB-man...but sounds like Bills and Jets were considering moving up to #2 to possibly take Trub (I know, it's nuts) so Lynch used that as leverage to extort a couple more picks from da Bears. Lynch had a helluva debut as GM getting Thomas and Foster, who might be best player in the draft.

Abdullah71601 · 28 April 2017, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by locutus49

Trubitsky could be the next Tom Brady, or more likely, the next Ryan Leaf. Time will tell. I like Mahomes II as a QB and will watch his career with interest.

Trubisky has some of the same tendencies as Geno Smith under pressure.

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Originally Posted by manhattanproj

how many qbs in the league are plug and play? you build a system around the qb. you dont ask brady to play in the panthers scheme and vice versa.

kap was a throw away fr winning the super bowl.

Kap was in a system tuned to him that allowed him to be successful. Nobody else has that system in place right now, with an open QB spot. It's a win now league. Not a spend three years building a team around Kap league. Kap isn't good enough to drop in and take a team to the playoffs, and nobody is going to pay him big money to experiment.

You can make it about other issues, but the critical factor is his ability to win right now. Nobody would care about his mouth and his antics if he had the talent to take the team deep into the playoffs on his own (look at Richard Sherman who mutinied on the sideline, for example).

GB-man · 29 April 2017, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ddub66

That was my initial thought too, GB-man...but sounds like Bills and Jets were considering moving up to #2 to possibly take Trub (I know, it's nuts) so Lynch used that as leverage to extort a couple more picks from da Bears. Lynch had a helluva debut as GM getting Thomas and Foster, who might be best player in the draft.

Good point I'm sure when you have a top pick you are fielding offers left and right.

I wouldn't have been elated to see the bills take him. Would rather take my chances next year on a QB if needed.

Boothroyd · 29 April 2017, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by AzPaul

Okay Ted Thompson, here it is, served up on a big fat silver platter for you.
Let's see what you do . . . . . . . .

I think dropping back 4 slots to add the first 4th round pick makes sense. Now, I would like him to make a choice at number 33, and not trade that pick. Or if he does trade, only drop a few slots further to add a 5th rounder.

Trader Ted--he might end up with 32 7th round picks!

Etschell · 29 April 2017, 01:15 AM

kid from unc isnt very good. terrible trade up.

droptopman · 29 April 2017, 01:17 AM

Hoping the Hawks take Kevin King today if available. CB from UW.

Fleetlord · 29 April 2017, 01:58 AM

The draft itself was interesting. Lots of unexpected moves and picks.

The talent pool was pretty MEH...overall a weak class...

wantonebad · 29 April 2017, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

This year didn't have a great QB class. A lot of hype about a couple guys, but those guys aren't Andrew Luck. Sacrificing other strong needs for an iffy 8-5 QB is a bonehead move.

Andrew Luck isn't Andrew Luck for that matter...

28 April 2017, 12:53 PM	#37
sea-dweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Dennis Location: Bay Area - 925 Posts: 40,018	Christian McCaffrey has been selected by the Panthers... __________________ TRF Member #6699 (since September 2007)

28 April 2017, 01:05 PM	#41
droptopman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Real Name: Mark Location: Washington State Watch: SUBS and GMT's! Posts: 9,664	Da Bears...not bagging on the selection but to give up picks was an interesting move. Cmon Hawks. Lock down CB or OL. __________________ Judge Smails: Ty, what did you shoot today? Ty: Oh, Judge, I don't keep score. Judge Smails: Then how do you measure yourself with other golfers? Ty: By height.

28 April 2017, 01:26 PM	#43
AzPaul 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Paul Location: Tucson, Az Watch: Rolex 1501 Posts: 13,203	Okay Ted Thompson, here it is, served up on a big fat silver platter for you. Let's see what you do . . . . . . . . __________________ Ain't much of a crime, whacking a surly bartender

28 April 2017, 01:39 PM	#50
droptopman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Real Name: Mark Location: Washington State Watch: SUBS and GMT's! Posts: 9,664	Lol never mind we just traded down again. We must not like anyone... __________________ Judge Smails: Ty, what did you shoot today? Ty: Oh, Judge, I don't keep score. Judge Smails: Then how do you measure yourself with other golfers? Ty: By height.

29 April 2017, 01:15 AM	#57
Etschell "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: FL Watch: platinum sub Posts: 15,884	kid from unc isnt very good. terrible trade up. __________________ If you wind it, they will run. 25 or 6 to 4.

28 April 2017, 11:38 AM	#32
breitlings Banned Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Bethesda Watch: Apple TV Posts: 5,744	It will be interesting to see if the redskins pick "Danny style" (3 wr in the 2nd round all busted) or try to pretend they are an NFL team "Scotty style".

28 April 2017, 11:52 AM	#33
csfischer20 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Real Name: Chris Location: Denver Watch: BLNR Posts: 427	Funny the Texans had to draft a Qb. They better hope he's good after the osweiler mess. I'm a Denver fan and didn't like Osweiler when he was backing up Peyton.

28 April 2017, 12:51 PM	#36
locutus49 Banned Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: John Location: La Jolla, CA Watch: Platona Posts: 12,194	Trubitsky could be the next Tom Brady, or more likely, the next Ryan Leaf. Time will tell. I like Mahomes II as a QB and will watch his career with interest.

28 April 2017, 01:00 PM	#39
kilyung 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,870	Dang it. What I don't get is, why didn't Elway trade up to get OJ Howard???

28 April 2017, 01:33 PM	#47
breitlings Banned Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Bethesda Watch: Apple TV Posts: 5,744	Think the redskins got a good 1st pick in J. Allen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbp5ghNZrOk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Jh5-8R7YDc

29 April 2017, 01:17 AM	#58
droptopman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Real Name: Mark Location: Washington State Watch: SUBS and GMT's! Posts: 9,664	Hoping the Hawks take Kevin King today if available. CB from UW. __________________ Judge Smails: Ty, what did you shoot today? Ty: Oh, Judge, I don't keep score. Judge Smails: Then how do you measure yourself with other golfers? Ty: By height.

29 April 2017, 01:58 AM	#59
Fleetlord "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Vain Posts: 5,917	The draft itself was interesting. Lots of unexpected moves and picks. The talent pool was pretty MEH...overall a weak class...

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