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ndane · 26 March 2009, 03:01 AM

does the advent of the new subs means that the original 16610 and 16613 are going to be discontinued? i don't know about you guys but i don't care too much for the case on the new subs.

JJ Irani · 26 March 2009, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ndane

does the advent of the new subs means that the original 16610 and 16613 are going to be discontinued? i don't know about you guys but i don't care too much for the case on the new subs.

Just wait till you hear the NEW prices??!!!!!

The GMT Master · 26 March 2009, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ndane

does the advent of the new subs means that the original 16610 and 16613 are going to be discontinued? i don't know about you guys but i don't care too much for the case on the new subs.

16610 will continue as the 116610 hasn't been launched yet, as far as I know. As for the 16613, there'll be a transition period before it gets withdrawn. Rolex will probably supply them for about another 12 months to use up their stock of cases.

seantk · 26 March 2009, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ndane

does the advent of the new subs means that the original 16610 and 16613 are going to be discontinued? i don't know about you guys but i don't care too much for the case on the new subs.

16613 - probably, 16610 - eventually.

An updated stainless steel sub was not introduced this year at Basel. In fact both 16610 and 16610LV were both on display at Basel

Sean

bodybump · 26 March 2009, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Just wait till you hear the NEW prices??!!!!!

make that 2...

ndane · 26 March 2009, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by The GMT Master

16610 will continue as the 116610 hasn't been launched yet, as far as I know. As for the 16613, there'll be a transition period before it gets withdrawn. Rolex will probably supply them for about another 12 months to use up their stock of cases.

116610? i'm a nub, so i've never heard of it. is that really going to be released?

seantk · 26 March 2009, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ndane

116610? i'm a nub, so i've never heard of it. is that really going to be released?

Yes - Probably next year at Basel

sean

The GMT Master · 26 March 2009, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ndane

116610? i'm a nub, so i've never heard of it. is that really going to be released?

Well, that's presumably the eventual reference for the new SS Sub. Wait til next year's Baselworld for that

ndane · 26 March 2009, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by seantk

Yes - Probably next year at Basel

sean

any info on what the updates on it will be?

seantk · 26 March 2009, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ndane

any info on what the updates on it will be?

Same as the past 2 years with the gold subs and now the two-tone subs. Look for Maxi dial with blue lume. Wider lugs, improved bracelet with the glidelock clasp and of course - a ceramic bezel

Sean

JJ Irani · 26 March 2009, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by The GMT Master

Well, that's presumably the eventual reference for the new SS Sub. Wait til next year's Baselworld for that

Yes, and with another THREE price increase between NOW and THEN, I literally shudder to think of what the price on the new updated 116610 is going to be!!!

Guys.....some advice.

Just hang on to your current SS Sub-dates - or buy one if you get the chance. You might remember these words next year at the same time.

Cheers - JJ

DSJ · 26 March 2009, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by The GMT Master

16610 will continue as the 116610 hasn't been launched yet, as far as I know. As for the 16613, there'll be a transition period before it gets withdrawn. Rolex will probably supply them for about another 12 months to use up their stock of cases.

The cases are the same as the 16610, so the real "use-up period" will be for the existing bracelets, dials, date-wheels and bezels.

JJ's right. If you want a SS Submariner Date, buy one now. Someone on TRF has a D-series for under $3,400 at the moment, if I had the cash, I'd buy it!

padi56 · 26 March 2009, 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ndane

does the advent of the new subs means that the original 16610 and 16613 are going to be discontinued? i don't know about you guys but i don't care too much for the case on the new subs.

Dont know why you guys call it a new sub its just a tarted up old one if it comes out.Ceramic bezel or slightly larger case different clasp etc if it does happen are purely cosmetic changes, and in my book don't make a new sub.A new sub IMHO is a totally new design totally new dial, case style and fonts, different hands plus a totally new complete movement and bracelet then you could call it a new Sub.Fact since 1988/9 the sub has changed very little SEL bracelet non lug hole case and a few other very minor font details and thats it.

Randy · 26 March 2009, 04:01 AM

New case, maxi dial, ceramic bezel, on new subs and next year on the SS sub. Major changes that most people do not care for and yes is major enough to change model designation for!

BigHat · 26 March 2009, 04:03 AM

If I was worried about buying anything "now" it would be the SD. Under $5K new at Swiss Luxury now. That watch will be harder to buy new one heck of a lot sooner than the current SS Sub.

boa2 · 26 March 2009, 04:12 AM

I don't think the 16610 Sub will become rare until my grandchildren finish college...and I don't have children yet.

frch1104 · 26 March 2009, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by boa2

I don't think the 16610 Sub will become rare until my grandchildren finish college...and I don't have children yet.

:r ofl:

//Fred

chriseskew24 · 26 March 2009, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by boa2

I don't think the 16610 Sub will become rare until my grandchildren finish college...and I don't have children yet.

I dont belive that it will be rare. Just more out of reach.. And if I have to pay $8000.00 or more for a new SS sub next year guess what i may have purchased my last one.

Esquire · 26 March 2009, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Yes, and with another THREE price increase between NOW and THEN, I literally shudder to think of what the price on the new updated 116610 is going to be!!!

Guys.....some advice.

Just hang on to your current SS Sub-dates - or buy one if you get the chance. You might remember these words next year at the same time.

Cheers - JJ

If Rolex does raise prices, it will be extremely minor changes.

I'm betting on no price increases. Look at the SDDS and GMT-IIc--both are selling at ridiculous prices in for sale forums ($6800 for a $9200 watch, and $4800 for a $6800 watch), and Rolex wants to sell new versions of the watch, rather than have the used versions float around from buyer to seller.

The new price will be high, but hopefully not too high. With the GMT-IIc at $6850, the new SS sub should land somewhere in the $6000 range. But that's fine--it makes the previous subs that much better to own, and likely cheaper due to people jumping ship from the previous model to the new one.

boa2 · 26 March 2009, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by chriseskew24

I dont belive that it will be rare. Just more out of reach.. :

No more so than the current SD, which is much rarer and can still be found easily, and well below MSRP. Rolex produced millions of Sub/Date watches. They will not be difficult to find.

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Originally Posted by chriseskew24

And if I have to pay $8000.00 or more for a new SS sub next year guess what i may have purchased my last one.:thumbsup

Give it 5-6 months after release, and the new Sub will be like the Milgauss and the Deep Sea...widely available & discounted significantly.

In other words, there is no need to panic.

chriseskew24 · 26 March 2009, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by boa2

No more so than the current SD, which is much rarer and can still be found easily, and well below MSRP. Rolex produced millions of Sub/Date watches. They will not be difficult to find.

Give it 5-6 months after release, and the new Sub will be like the Milgauss and the Deep Sea...widely available & discounted significantly.

In other words, there is no need to panic.

Thanks now i feel ok.

jtrader · 26 March 2009, 05:30 AM

Hi everyone,

It's been a while for me. But in any regard. I think the new look of the subs are sharp. I didn't like the look of the newer GMT II C's at first. But they have really been growing on me lately!

I am curious will the new 116610 black subs have a solid link bracelet? Or will it be the original all brushed look?

I really like the way the new blue subs look with the solid link bracelet. But would prefer to see the brushed look stay on the black subs. To each is own I guess.

BLACK DIAMOND · 26 March 2009, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by chriseskew24

I dont belive that it will be rare. Just more out of reach.. And if I have to pay $8000.00 or more for a new SS sub next year guess what i may have purchased my last one.

Agreed.

$8K for a stainless steel watch is really pushing it, even if it IS a Rolex!! The current prices of 5-6K for a SS Sub-Date is already quite substantial, and arguably excessive.

boa2 · 26 March 2009, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by chriseskew24

Thanks now i feel ok.

Of course, you can always buy a few, and hold them for your grandkids.

26 March 2009, 03:01 AM	#1
ndane "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Nathan Location: USA Posts: 628	question about new subs does the advent of the new subs means that the original 16610 and 16613 are going to be discontinued? i don't know about you guys but i don't care too much for the case on the new subs.

26 March 2009, 04:12 AM	#16
boa2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: US Watch: Me Now Posts: 3,660	I don't think the 16610 Sub will become rare until my grandchildren finish college...and I don't have children yet. __________________ "Facts and truth really don't have much to do with each other."

26 March 2009, 04:01 AM	#14
Randy "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Randy Location: Ohio Watch: AP, Rolex, Panerai Posts: 1,241	New case, maxi dial, ceramic bezel, on new subs and next year on the SS sub. Major changes that most people do not care for and yes is major enough to change model designation for!

26 March 2009, 04:03 AM	#15
BigHat Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Matt Location: Arlington, VA Watch: Lange One MP Posts: 4,043	If I was worried about buying anything "now" it would be the SD. Under $5K new at Swiss Luxury now. That watch will be harder to buy new one heck of a lot sooner than the current SS Sub.

26 March 2009, 05:30 AM	#22
jtrader "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Jon Location: seattle Watch: Rolex GMT BLNR Posts: 301	Hi everyone, It's been a while for me. But in any regard. I think the new look of the subs are sharp. I didn't like the look of the newer GMT II C's at first. But they have really been growing on me lately! I am curious will the new 116610 black subs have a solid link bracelet? Or will it be the original all brushed look? I really like the way the new blue subs look with the solid link bracelet. But would prefer to see the brushed look stay on the black subs. To each is own I guess.

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