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chris242 · 17 February 2020, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Uggi

Which one?

OP
just never heard of this and think it’s crazy!

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Tomas Eriksson · 17 February 2020, 09:09 PM

Removing stickers is standard procedure pretty much globally. Was the engraving offered at no additional cost? I would have gladly taken up on it if that was the case.

HogwldFLTR · 17 February 2020, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by joli160

Your AD is full of it

SSshhhh!!!!

Manu77 · 17 February 2020, 09:45 PM

I would tell them to eat it.

watchmaker · 17 February 2020, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Papong

I bought a brand new GMT Master ii (2019 model) for the regular retail price of $9700 plus tax yesterday. The store has demanded/ dictated that I put an inscription on the back of the watch? I was totally surprised when they told me that this is their new store policy. (I bought 4 Rolex watches from this store in the last 12 years in which the last one was back in November). Is this legal? Can the authorized Rolex store dictate to their customers what to do with the watch that you paid in full? Has anyone experienced the same scenario?

I don't believe this story. Sorry.

But to answer the question of if it is legal. It almost certainly is legal in most jurisdictions (although it would violate their agreement with Rolex). If they stipulate that the watch must be engraved as a condition of sale then you can either agree or decline to purchase. They own the product, and don't have to sell it. They can make any (legal) conditions they want - even if it means they go out of business in a week.

Bagman · 17 February 2020, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by harryflashman

go with “drive carefully me”

😂

bondtoys · 17 February 2020, 10:19 PM

Call me crazy, but If they give me the watch for mrsp, they can engrave anything that they want into the caseback and I‘d not even blink.

GSDLover · 17 February 2020, 10:34 PM

This could work out great! Tell them you want a Ferrari Cavalino or a Tiffany stamp.

VegasMilgauss · 17 February 2020, 10:36 PM

Suggestions:

'FOR SALE'

'Flipping hell'

Sounds bananas op..

1Zach1 · 17 February 2020, 10:43 PM

I wonder if they engrave all those SS watches going out the back door to greys.

beshannon · 17 February 2020, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by watchmaker

I don't believe this story. Sorry.

Agreed

danyvw · 17 February 2020, 11:42 PM

Everybody is complaining about engraving the back case and I agree this is ridiculous and absurd BUT if If you see it with a different perspective, I do not see badly that the AD is trying to avoid the resale of the watch. At the end that is what we all want, stop the grey market resale and someday be able to buy a piece without all the hassle of "waiting lists" like we used to do 5 years ago.

steve099 · 17 February 2020, 11:48 PM

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cdubg21 · 18 February 2020, 12:21 AM

Seems, if true, this could have unintended consequences. Let’s suppose for a minute that every new Daytona, GMT, or other hot SS model gets a caseback engraving moving forward. Wouldn’t that simply drive the prices of “non-engraved” models even higher? Same way stickered models sell at a premium over “unworn but AD removed plastics”...also is an engraving really going to dissuade someone from buying a preowned watch they really want but can’t get from an AD? Just seems silly and kneejerk

If Rolex wants to dissuade flipping, simply allow AD’s to remove the profit opportunity from resellers by charging market rates rather than a MSRP that is way lower than market value

padi56 · 18 February 2020, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Papong

I bought a brand new GMT Master ii (2019 model) for the regular retail price of $9700 plus tax yesterday. The store has demanded/ dictated that I put an inscription on the back of the watch? I was totally surprised when they told me that this is their new store policy. (I bought 4 Rolex watches from this store in the last 12 years in which the last one was back in November). Is this legal? Can the authorized Rolex store dictate to their customers what to do with the watch that you paid in full? Has anyone experienced the same scenario?

Complete and utter bullsh#t by your AD, just like many posts on forum lately.

PhilLynott · 18 February 2020, 12:36 AM

Just put a GPS tracking device in the watch and call the person every morning asking where they are to confirm it matches the GPS coordinates.

That or weld the clasp shut on the wrist or maybe put some sort of lock and key on the watches that only the AD has the key for.

Speedbird-1 · 18 February 2020, 12:36 AM

Personally, I don't believe a word of it.

garyk · 18 February 2020, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Lt Virgil Hilts

Personally, I don't believe a word of it.

I don’t know what to believe anymore but this story absolutely takes the prize. Completely bizarre. So, if this is true, I would absolutely contact Rolex in the form of a customer complaint letter. I would send a copy to the BBB. I would then contact a different AD with this story and tell them you would like to be a customer of their store in the future.

Good luck and enjoy the GMT...

CashGap · 18 February 2020, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by amilch

My AD removes stickers every time I purchase a watch from them. There was one particular time when I stopped by just to chat and my SA noticed that there were some stickers still on the piece I was currently wearing so he asked me to take off my watch and removed remaining stickers that weren't removed at the time of purchase. I was a bit offended but I got over it.

He asked you to remove the watch so he could confiscate the stickers?

I would have said molon labe.

LndLord · 18 February 2020, 01:54 AM

They should have told you before

maxlfoster · 18 February 2020, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jitdc

Wow! Sorry you had to go through that.

The general sentiment seems to be that some AD’s sell to greys. If they do so and get away with it how can these folks make such a ridiculous request to avoid you flipping it?

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It certainly seems like a lot of GMTs are available at $15-$18k...

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russ86 · 18 February 2020, 10:38 AM

Lol I when I was reading this I was thinking write “DRIVE CAREFULLY ME”
But if we talking serious, thats complete bs

Frank Mucus · 18 February 2020, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ArtNouveau

This comes up periodically. The majority here obviously doesn’t like it but RolexUSA could care less about one of their “independent authorized agents” sales policies.
One of the conundrums of TRF. Most people say they’re anti flipping but when a dealer does something to prevent it they cry foul.

Why not do the same on a car then. Next time you buys a car and the dealer states they have to have their dealership name inscribed on the trunk just let them, you know since you're not going to get rid of it anyways.

SlideRacker · 18 February 2020, 11:10 AM

Are all the people who buy grey grinning cheek to cheek right now?

10klakes · 18 February 2020, 01:18 PM

OP, are you an employee of the AD? If so, this is common practice.

Any pics of said engravings by any of the posters that are in agreement with this purchase practice.

al1786 · 19 February 2020, 12:13 AM

When sending it in for service to RSC, would they consider this engraved case back as modified and would they charge you to replace the case back with a standard one.

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watchmaker · 19 February 2020, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by al1786

When sending it in for service to RSC, would they consider this engraved case back as modified and would they charge you to replace the case back with a standard one.

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No. They will sell you one if you want to get rid of it.

harvey · 19 February 2020, 02:46 AM

Just read this. Am I the only one who thinks the op is trolling?

sechsgang · 19 February 2020, 03:02 AM

honestly, Im not against it...really makes you wonder how much you want it vs resale. I told my dealer Id happily have my little logo etched on the back.

Meyrin · 19 February 2020, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryFlashman

Go with “DRIVE CAREFULLY ME”

But I don't think any GMT is going to become as famous as Paul Newman´s Daytona!!

17 February 2020, 09:09 PM	#62
Tomas Eriksson "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Stockholm Watch: 15707CE Posts: 1,986	Removing stickers is standard procedure pretty much globally. Was the engraving offered at no additional cost? I would have gladly taken up on it if that was the case. __________________ State of the union: 5066A,15400ST,15707CE,116610LN,26470OR and a few other…

17 February 2020, 11:48 PM	#73
steve099 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Real Name: Steve Location: Australia Watch: 116619LB Posts: 564	Picture removed. Last edited by padi56; 18 February 2020 at 12:27 AM.. Reason: Anymore posts like yours and your membership will be terminated forms rules clearly state no bad language or pictures depicti

17 February 2020, 09:45 PM	#64
Manu77 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Spain Posts: 133	I would tell them to eat it.

17 February 2020, 10:19 PM	#67
bondtoys "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: World Watch: 16750 Posts: 2,719	Call me crazy, but If they give me the watch for mrsp, they can engrave anything that they want into the caseback and I‘d not even blink.

17 February 2020, 10:34 PM	#68
GSDLover "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Florida Watch: Patek 5205r-010 Posts: 638	This could work out great! Tell them you want a Ferrari Cavalino or a Tiffany stamp.

17 February 2020, 10:36 PM	#69
VegasMilgauss "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: UK Posts: 1,029	Suggestions: 'FOR SALE' 'Flipping hell' Sounds bananas op..

17 February 2020, 10:43 PM	#70
1Zach1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 102	I wonder if they engrave all those SS watches going out the back door to greys.

17 February 2020, 11:42 PM	#72
danyvw "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: USA Watch: Sub16610, DJ126331 Posts: 1,151	Everybody is complaining about engraving the back case and I agree this is ridiculous and absurd BUT if If you see it with a different perspective, I do not see badly that the AD is trying to avoid the resale of the watch. At the end that is what we all want, stop the grey market resale and someday be able to buy a piece without all the hassle of "waiting lists" like we used to do 5 years ago.

18 February 2020, 12:21 AM	#74
cdubg21 Banned Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Earth Watch: 116610LV Posts: 469	Seems, if true, this could have unintended consequences. Let’s suppose for a minute that every new Daytona, GMT, or other hot SS model gets a caseback engraving moving forward. Wouldn’t that simply drive the prices of “non-engraved” models even higher? Same way stickered models sell at a premium over “unworn but AD removed plastics”...also is an engraving really going to dissuade someone from buying a preowned watch they really want but can’t get from an AD? Just seems silly and kneejerk If Rolex wants to dissuade flipping, simply allow AD’s to remove the profit opportunity from resellers by charging market rates rather than a MSRP that is way lower than market value

18 February 2020, 12:36 AM	#76
PhilLynott "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Illinois Watch: Breguet marine Posts: 703	Just put a GPS tracking device in the watch and call the person every morning asking where they are to confirm it matches the GPS coordinates. That or weld the clasp shut on the wrist or maybe put some sort of lock and key on the watches that only the AD has the key for.

18 February 2020, 12:36 AM	#77
Speedbird-1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Steve. Location: UK Posts: 6,070	Personally, I don't believe a word of it.

18 February 2020, 01:54 AM	#80
LndLord "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: Long Island Posts: 517	They should have told you before

18 February 2020, 10:38 AM	#82
russ86 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Real Name: Ross C. Location: Miami, FL. Posts: 947	Lol I when I was reading this I was thinking write “DRIVE CAREFULLY ME” But if we talking serious, thats complete bs

18 February 2020, 11:10 AM	#84
SlideRacker "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Orange County, CA Watch: 116500LN Black Posts: 559	Are all the people who buy grey grinning cheek to cheek right now?

18 February 2020, 01:18 PM	#85
10klakes "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: USA Watch: Collector Posts: 1,482	OP, are you an employee of the AD? If so, this is common practice. Any pics of said engravings by any of the posters that are in agreement with this purchase practice.

19 February 2020, 12:13 AM	#86
al1786 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: GB Watch: 116520 Posts: 306	When sending it in for service to RSC, would they consider this engraved case back as modified and would they charge you to replace the case back with a standard one. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

19 February 2020, 02:46 AM	#88
harvey "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: rolexforums.com Posts: 5,374	Just read this. Am I the only one who thinks the op is trolling?

19 February 2020, 03:02 AM	#89
sechsgang "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 1,443	honestly, Im not against it...really makes you wonder how much you want it vs resale. I told my dealer Id happily have my little logo etched on the back.

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