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TuRo · 6 December 2022, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dan188

Hi guys. I don't have the tools to open up the case back, but your hunch about the case being welded and re-cut sounds plausible to me. That would explain why the wear from the end links is so inconsistent with the lack of wear on the outside of the case. I bought the watch from a local, very reputable, jewelry store/watch repair store that sells used Rolex watches. They told me that the watch appeared to be mostly original but also serviced with Rolex parts over the years (bezel in particular). I will pick up one of those rubber balls used to remove the case back and check inside. What should I look for other than confirming that the correct movement is in there? thanks.

REGISTERED DESIGN visible please even if feint ?

springer · 6 December 2022, 04:24 AM

The watch appears to have a nicely refinished case which is evidenced by the wear and rub marks between the lugs which would not be consistent with the current case condition. It is definitely not NOS or in "unworn, like new condition." As far as the case engravings between the lugs - I don't see any issues with the letters or numbers to indicate the case is fake or re-stamped.

Enjoy the Submariner.

shudder · 7 January 2023, 12:15 AM

Very nice! I love the look of those vintage subs.

baumare · 7 January 2023, 08:53 AM

Case defenitely laser/recut.
Personally I think engraving and the end-links marks are ok, I can see the proper vertical line and the number look consistent
Here's with my 1680 serial 5.71xxxx

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Filipão · 7 January 2023, 10:28 AM

Lesson number one:

Keep your endlinks properly adjusted.

Thuilln · 8 January 2023, 02:09 AM

Hard to believe these lugs are over 40 years old…

Boopie · 8 January 2023, 02:17 AM

Welcome to the forum! Enjoy your vintage Sub!

If you want to open the caseback, I suggest you take it to the jeweler who sold it to you.

Polishing and changing the crowns etc. were all things Rolex routinely does during service, and people in last years typically didn’t worry about that.

Alessandro Rossi · 9 January 2023, 03:14 AM

Very nice. Congrats!

6 December 2022, 04:24 AM	#32
springer 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,191	The watch appears to have a nicely refinished case which is evidenced by the wear and rub marks between the lugs which would not be consistent with the current case condition. It is definitely not NOS or in "unworn, like new condition." As far as the case engravings between the lugs - I don't see any issues with the letters or numbers to indicate the case is fake or re-stamped. Enjoy the Submariner. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics. Last edited by cop414; 6 December 2022 at 12:07 PM..

7 January 2023, 12:15 AM	#33
shudder "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Indiana Posts: 27	Vintage Sub Very nice! I love the look of those vintage subs.

8 January 2023, 02:09 AM	#36
Thuilln "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Real Name: Nick Location: YUL Watch: 16570 Posts: 1,936	Hard to believe these lugs are over 40 years old… __________________ Nick _________________________________________ 14060M - 114200 - 114270 - 214270 - 16710BLRO - 16570 - 3570.50 - Cartier Tank Solo - Cartier Tank Française ‘Yearling’ - CWC Navy Diver

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7 January 2023, 08:53 AM	#34
baumare "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Real Name: mario Location: NY-USA Watch: Rolex 1675/8 Posts: 525	Case defenitely laser/recut. Personally I think engraving and the end-links marks are ok, I can see the proper vertical line and the number look consistent Here's with my 1680 serial 5.71xxxx IMG_1913 2.jpg IMG_1911.jpg

7 January 2023, 10:28 AM	#35
Filipão "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Real Name: Filipe Location: Lisbon & Wadesdah Watch: Never too many Posts: 1,898	Lesson number one: Keep your endlinks properly adjusted.

8 January 2023, 02:17 AM	#37
Boopie "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Beverly Hills, CA Watch: Yachtmaster Posts: 3,764	Welcome to the forum! Enjoy your vintage Sub! If you want to open the caseback, I suggest you take it to the jeweler who sold it to you. Polishing and changing the crowns etc. were all things Rolex routinely does during service, and people in last years typically didn’t worry about that.

9 January 2023, 03:14 AM	#38
Alessandro Rossi "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2023 Location: Milan, Italy Posts: 19	Very nice. Congrats!

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