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Old 5 April 2022, 03:40 PM   #31
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Love it

Only wish they also made it in men size.
31.4 is pretty ridiculous ��

31.4 X 43.5 but the 43.5 is including lugs
So it’s more like 31,4 X 31,4….. and they call that large… yes maybe in 1940


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One thing to remember is that square watches wear very differently than round — it's hard to do a "dimensions to dimensions" comparison.

If you look the actual surface area of the watch, it's like 1366 sq. mm. Compare that to a 42mm round watch which is 1385 sq. mm. That's pretty close (assuming I'm remembering how to calculate area of both a rectangle and circle correctly). If you remove the lugs, then it's like 986 sq mm for the Cartier — so closer to a 36mm round
I pulled the dimensions from an article, and it looks like it’s larger than the medium lug to lug but not as wide. So it’s not as small as I thought and from flank to crown pretty thin in comparison.
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Old 6 April 2022, 12:35 PM   #32
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Never owned a Cartier but f*uck that rose dumont is a beaut. Called my AD and he said he’ll try to secure one for me. November seems too far away. Damn.


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Old 7 April 2022, 01:32 AM   #33
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I'd say that just because this is a limited edition doesn't necc mean that this is a great investment piece or that the price would increase substantially. Just look at JLC small seconds, Hublot bb anniversary watch, etc. Cartier watches tend to lose at least 40% unless you have the Santos de Cartier or solarbeat
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Old 7 April 2022, 01:45 AM   #34
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I'd say that just because this is a limited edition doesn't necc mean that this is a great investment piece or that the price would increase substantially. Just look at JLC small seconds, Hublot bb anniversary watch, etc. Cartier watches tend to lose at least 40% unless you have the Santos de Cartier or solarbeat

This might come as news to you but some people actually still buy watches because they like how they look not because they retain their value.


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Old 7 April 2022, 01:50 AM   #35
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This might come as news to you but some people actually still buy watches because they like how they look not because they retain their value.


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Old 7 April 2022, 02:05 AM   #36
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I'd say that just because this is a limited edition doesn't necc mean that this is a great investment piece or that the price would increase substantially. Just look at JLC small seconds, Hublot bb anniversary watch, etc. Cartier watches tend to lose at least 40% unless you have the Santos de Cartier or solarbeat
I think you miss quite a few things about Cartier in recent years. Check the prices of the new Must de Cartier in green, blue and red for example or check the latest auction prices for the Cartier Crash. Have a look at specialised websites such as Hodinkees’s coverage of the brand and you will see that the wind has dramatically changed. Cartier is one of the hottest brands recently.
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Old 7 April 2022, 09:33 AM   #37
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This might come as news to you but some people actually still buy watches because they like how they look not because they retain their value.


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No my point is exactly that - that you should buy the watch if you really like it and not for the estimated increase in price

My own watch collection attests to that - I have only 1 Rolex and my last watch was a Frederique constant world time as well as others like AP, Piaget
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Old 9 April 2022, 04:13 AM   #38
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I RECEIVED THIS NOTE FROM MY AD TODAY REGARDING MY INQUIRY AND DEPOSIT. It won’t be that easy to get one as it looks!

Cartier has a new process that they are requiring for the purchase of a scarcity timepiece. See details below. I will call and explain in more detail as well.

The process for Scarcity timepieces (NLE, LE, One Shots) have been modified for FY23 launch.
There is a special process this year that we need to follow for NLE, LE, One Shot timepiece novelties.

Cartier Fine Watchmaking / Fine Jewelry creations are handcrafted by the exceptional artisans working at the Maison’s Manufacture in Switzerland. For most of our Fine Watches, the entire process, from conception to final polishing, requires the masterwork of specialized artisans – designers, watchmakers, engravers, jewelers, gem-cutters, stone-setters and polishers. Some of our creations (such as our Metiers d’Art watches) even require rare materials, unique craftsmanship and specific know-how, that only a handful of artisans in the world truly master. Therefore, the availability of such pieces is limited. Cartier’s high standards and levels of craftsmanship amount to a quality and care that cannot be matched or rushed.

As with most of our Fine Watches, the demand is higher than what our Manufacture is able to produce. For this reason, we unfortunately cannot grant a piece for every request we receive.
Submitting an inquiry does not equal placing an order. When submitting an inquiry, you are notifying the Cartier teams of your interest in purchasing one of our creations. Once your inquiry is confirmed by International, I will be happy to assist you in placing an order for this piece. Only then will a deposit be required to secure and reserve this piece for you.

Cartier receives a tremendous amount of inquiries on Fine Watches not only in North America, but also at a worldwide level.
All client inquiries are collected at the worldwide level and every inquiry is being carefully reviewed internally.
For this reason, it can take our Maison up to 2 months to confirm a client inquiry.


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Old 9 April 2022, 04:16 AM   #39
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I RECEIVED THIS NOTE FROM MY AD TODAY REGARDING MY INQUIRY AND DEPOSIT. It won’t be that easy to get one as it looks!

Cartier has a new process that they are requiring for the purchase of a scarcity timepiece. See details below. I will call and explain in more detail as well.

The process for Scarcity timepieces (NLE, LE, One Shots) have been modified for FY23 launch.
There is a special process this year that we need to follow for NLE, LE, One Shot timepiece novelties.

Cartier Fine Watchmaking / Fine Jewelry creations are handcrafted by the exceptional artisans working at the Maison’s Manufacture in Switzerland. For most of our Fine Watches, the entire process, from conception to final polishing, requires the masterwork of specialized artisans – designers, watchmakers, engravers, jewelers, gem-cutters, stone-setters and polishers. Some of our creations (such as our Metiers d’Art watches) even require rare materials, unique craftsmanship and specific know-how, that only a handful of artisans in the world truly master. Therefore, the availability of such pieces is limited. Cartier’s high standards and levels of craftsmanship amount to a quality and care that cannot be matched or rushed.

As with most of our Fine Watches, the demand is higher than what our Manufacture is able to produce. For this reason, we unfortunately cannot grant a piece for every request we receive.
Submitting an inquiry does not equal placing an order. When submitting an inquiry, you are notifying the Cartier teams of your interest in purchasing one of our creations. Once your inquiry is confirmed by International, I will be happy to assist you in placing an order for this piece. Only then will a deposit be required to secure and reserve this piece for you.

Cartier receives a tremendous amount of inquiries on Fine Watches not only in North America, but also at a worldwide level.
All client inquiries are collected at the worldwide level and every inquiry is being carefully reviewed internally.
For this reason, it can take our Maison up to 2 months to confirm a client inquiry.


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So if you put a deposit down it’s not guaranteed?
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Old 9 April 2022, 05:49 AM   #40
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To secure your limited production Cartier watch you need to pay a 40 per cent deposit. That’s what they asked me do at Watches and Wonders to get the rose gold Santos Dumont with beige lacquer dial
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Old 9 April 2022, 06:07 AM   #41
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To secure your limited production Cartier watch you need to pay a 40 per cent deposit. That’s what they asked me do at Watches and Wonders to get the rose gold Santos Dumont with beige lacquer dial

My boutique wants the whole amount as the deposit
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Old 9 April 2022, 07:45 AM   #42
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So if you put a deposit down it’s not guaranteed?

Not based on that note from Cartier
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My boutique wants the whole amount as the deposit
Is is a Cartier boutique or a retailer with multiple brands? I would assume Cartier boutiques all adopt the same policies but maybe not …
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Is is a Cartier boutique or a retailer with multiple brands? I would assume Cartier boutiques all adopt the same policies but maybe not …

It’s a boutique
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Old 5 May 2022, 05:59 PM   #45
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Any news regarding this watch? I personally love it and I wonder if any of you guys know what material the dial is? Is the dial rose gold as well?

I have been informed I have a piece allocated for me but based on all answers here I'm not 100 % sure I will be on of the lucky 250..
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Any news regarding this watch? I personally love it and I wonder if any of you guys know what material the dial is? Is the dial rose gold as well?

I have been informed I have a piece allocated for me but based on all answers here I'm not 100 % sure I will be on of the lucky 250..
No one? Lol
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Out of curiosity anyone has some experience with how long the request for allocation takes? Filled request at Cartier boutique last month.
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Out of curiosity anyone has some experience with how long the request for allocation takes? Filled request at Cartier boutique last month.

I’ve been told they’ll allocate at the end of this month but who knows really.


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Old 24 May 2022, 01:09 AM   #49
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I'm appreciate Cartier, but not much of a fan, really... But I'd wear the hell out that Dumont, and many of the earlier Dumont references.
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There are over 270 Cartier boutiques in the world, do you think an AD will have a reasonnable chance to get any allocations? Unless they are doing big volume in watches for the brand, I would assume it's very unlikely. And even if they were to receive some, they will most likely reward existing customers who have purchased at their store before to reward them for their loyalty.
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So if you put a deposit down it’s not guaranteed?
I have an "inquiry" in as well. My AD said a deposit is not required by them or Cartier; if a store is telling you differently, they are just wanting to hold your money.
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I had my name in with the boutique for the rose Santos, the gold/black Tank, and the gold Pasha moonphase and they just called yesterday to tell me I'd been picked for the Pasha moonphase. would love to hear if anyone else has better luck on getting the rose Santos. it's an amazing piece.
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Did they tell you when the Moonphase Pashas are expected to be out?
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Did they tell you when the Moonphase Pashas are expected to be out?
they told me it'd ship to me some time in june. had to pay full price (~ $21K) to reserve it / guarantee delivery.
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I had my name in with the boutique for the rose Santos, the gold/black Tank, and the gold Pasha moonphase and they just called yesterday to tell me I'd been picked for the Pasha moonphase. would love to hear if anyone else has better luck on getting the rose Santos. it's an amazing piece.
Would you mind sharing what you’re purchase history with Cartier looks like? It might help gauge whether I have a shot or not. 😂
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Would you mind sharing what you’re purchase history with Cartier looks like? It might help gauge whether I have a shot or not. 😂
sure! I've purchased a steel Tank Americaine from an AD in Europe and a yellow gold Santos medium on bracelet from a boutique here in the US. total cost for both pieces was about $37K USD. good luck with the hunt!
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As much as I tried to love the other Pasha models, they do nothing to me, the Mooonphase for whatever reason is on list of watches I would totally buy (in steel for me), hope you receive it soon and post some pics :)
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Has anyone else heard if they will be able to buy the limited gold or black yet?
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The black is supposedly regular production so it will not be limited.
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The black is supposedly regular production so it will not be limited.
Is it going to go into regular production? My AD showed it to be in the book, and it was listed as "one shot;" he said that meant they would do one run of it, but they were not told how many would be made.
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