18th October 2022 New Release Thread - here it is

[Vasco]

Originally Posted by subtona

Looks to me like it changes the proportions a bit.
Not mind blowing but the update of the clasp is a significant update for many who were not fans of the friction type clasp of the 5711. The adjustment is also an unexpected bonus

In fact the adjustment introduced in ladies diamond Nautilus in 2019 was planned to be included in other references as they got released and for the 5811, it got +1mm in width but it's a litte less than a mm thinner, hence the proportions have changed (slimmer). I find it even more elegant that way.

[GMT_lover]

Originally Posted by mykii

Patek is killing it - Keeping it modern in the "right" way. Making watches larger and larger (ala the calatrava) is not "keeping it modern". Doing what they did here - well, take notes. This is how a timeless brand continues to execute. Well done to the Sterns and PP team.

This 100%!

[kultschar]

Never did like the 5990 in grey dial. However looks great with the blue dial.

The swiss article says, price 64,000 euros. What was the original versions price? Could be wrong but it feels like one hell of a jump considering both steel

[Ichiran]

This is Patek's best year in terms of new releases, in my opinion. I find many of them so desirable. Here is a recap of all the models released thus far (there could be more later in 2022):

Grand Complications
5374/300P
5373P
5470P
5204G
5270P
5320G

Complications
5935A
5326G
5172G
5205R
5230P
5231G
7130R
7121/200G

Calatrava
5226G

Nautilus
5811/1G
7118/1300R
5712/1R
5990/1A

Aquanaut
7968/300R

Twenty-4
4910/1200A

Not too shabby huh?

[benzng]

Originally Posted by Ichiran

Have to compare side by side to see if there is any difference in the blue colour. I like it of course since it looks like the 5711. My wife loves the 7118/1300R though and I think that is a stunning watch. The salmon 5935A is special too.

Me after seeing the 7118/1300R - that's nice, I will get that for my wife
Me after seeing the price - hmm, maybe I will get the new iphone 14 max pro instead

[kaiserphoenix]

I think there will be a Japan limited edition Calatrava also from what I heard.

[kaiserphoenix]

Originally Posted by kultschar

Never did like the 5990 in grey dial. However looks great with the blue dial.

The swiss article says, price 64,000 euros. What was the original versions price? Could be wrong but it feels like one hell of a jump considering both steel

Someone has to pay for all that innovation R&D that went into designing the clasp right? haha jokes aside im pretty sure they have one eye on the secondary values as well.

[sensui]

Originally Posted by kaiserphoenix

I think there will be a Japan limited edition Calatrava also from what I heard.

Now this sounds interesting

[Ichiran]

https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/lif...-thierry-stern

Some extracts of the interview:

"the new 5811 will be “rare” but “not limited”."

“Not everybody will get it in the first year... (but) this one will stay in the collection also for a certain amount of time before it stops like all the other ones."

"Patek is not keen in just selling it to someone looking to show off and will never buy another timepiece from the brand ever again. This watch should be sold to someone who knows (and understands) Patek Phillipe."

[boostafazoom]

Those with more experience — do you think the new 5712/1As going forward will be released with the new clasp? If so that’s a game changer for me… or will they stick to the only ones for those?

[uniqueMR]

Originally Posted by Ichiran

https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/lif...-thierry-stern

Some extracts of the interview:

"the new 5811 will be “rare” but “not limited”."

“Not everybody will get it in the first year... (but) this one will stay in the collection also for a certain amount of time before it stops like all the other ones."

"Patek is not keen in just selling it to someone looking to show off and will never buy another timepiece from the brand ever again. This watch should be sold to someone who knows (and understands) Patek Phillipe."

Excellent!!

[uniqueMR]

https://robbreport.com/style/watch-c...es-1234761182/

Its interesting and well done:

“I (Stern) will never be able to stop the whole process [of flipping], but we have been tracking quite a few pieces, and for the retailers, if they don’t give me the right answer, if I see that he was part of the game, too bad for him because he may lose Patek Philippe,” he said. “And I think that today they know that it will be sad to lose Patek Philippe.”

“We are buying a few hundred pieces every year from the market, from Chrono24 and all of those websites. We look at the numbers on the movements and we know who bought them and which retailers sold them. So I will go and see the retailer and say, ‘Hey, by the way, I found this watch on Chrono24. We delivered this watch two weeks ago to you. So tell me now who was the client to whom you sold this piece?’ And then we will have a discussion.”

[Moondoggy]

5712 is just insane, possibly the best I have ever seen.

[HMHM]

Originally Posted by uniqueMR

https://robbreport.com/style/watch-c...es-1234761182/

Its interesting and well done:

“I (Stern) will never be able to stop the whole process [of flipping], but we have been tracking quite a few pieces, and for the retailers, if they don’t give me the right answer, if I see that he was part of the game, too bad for him because he may lose Patek Philippe,” he said. “And I think that today they know that it will be sad to lose Patek Philippe.”

“We are buying a few hundred pieces every year from the market, from Chrono24 and all of those websites. We look at the numbers on the movements and we know who bought them and which retailers sold them. So I will go and see the retailer and say, ‘Hey, by the way, I found this watch on Chrono24. We delivered this watch two weeks ago to you. So tell me now who was the client to whom you sold this piece?’ And then we will have a discussion.”

Fantastic news! Finally something significant is done to counter the flippers. As opposed to Rolex who went the opposite direction by removing the name and AD details from the warranty card.

[CasinoRoyale_007]

5990 in blue is awesome.

[APWhale]

Originally Posted by uniqueMR

https://robbreport.com/style/watch-c...es-1234761182/

Its interesting and well done:

“I (Stern) will never be able to stop the whole process [of flipping], but we have been tracking quite a few pieces, and for the retailers, if they don’t give me the right answer, if I see that he was part of the game, too bad for him because he may lose Patek Philippe,” he said. “And I think that today they know that it will be sad to lose Patek Philippe.”

“We are buying a few hundred pieces every year from the market, from Chrono24 and all of those websites. We look at the numbers on the movements and we know who bought them and which retailers sold them. So I will go and see the retailer and say, ‘Hey, by the way, I found this watch on Chrono24. We delivered this watch two weeks ago to you. So tell me now who was the client to whom you sold this piece?’ And then we will have a discussion.”

Won't they see in their register and on the certificate of origin who the first client was? No need to go to the retailer if they can just blacklist the customer outright. And then inform all retailers.

[Oryx]

Patek have been buying in the market / tracking any sought after releases that come up at auction for quite a while now.

They manage all of the interaction with clients via their AD’s who are ultimately accountable for how they allocate watches to their clients. This is why Patek then go back to their AD’s when something is flipped etc so that they can then manage this with the collector that has been found out. It also makes AD’s accountable and more aligned to allocating to true collectors and it flippers. It is not the patek way to centrally blacklist clients etc.

[byow]

Originally Posted by boostafazoom

Those with more experience — do you think the new 5712/1As going forward will be released with the new clasp? If so that’s a game changer for me… or will they stick to the only ones for those?

I actually hope that they do not change the clasp on the 5712/1A.

The original clasp is more suitable for this watch in my opinion.

[DigitalNsane]

I think stop the production for the 5712 steel in the end of the year.

[Mini2]

Originally Posted by uniqueMR

https://robbreport.com/style/watch-c...es-1234761182/

Its interesting and well done:

“I (Stern) will never be able to stop the whole process [of flipping], but we have been tracking quite a few pieces, and for the retailers, if they don’t give me the right answer, if I see that he was part of the game, too bad for him because he may lose Patek Philippe,” he said. “And I think that today they know that it will be sad to lose Patek Philippe.”

“We are buying a few hundred pieces every year from the market, from Chrono24 and all of those websites. We look at the numbers on the movements and we know who bought them and which retailers sold them. So I will go and see the retailer and say, ‘Hey, by the way, I found this watch on Chrono24. We delivered this watch two weeks ago to you. So tell me now who was the client to whom you sold this piece?’ And then we will have a discussion.”

May being a very important word here, considering the times we are in.

[Mini2]

Originally Posted by DigitalNsane

I think stop the production for the 5712 steel in the end of the year.

Don't see this happening with the introduction of the rose gold piece and the adaptation of the new clasp. if it was going they would imo just have left the current bracelet on the watch again IMO

[uniqueMR]

Originally Posted by APWhale

Won't they see in their register and on the certificate of origin who the first client was? No need to go to the retailer if they can just blacklist the customer outright. And then inform all retailers.

Yes Patek can.
But AD/retailer might be involved as well.
Patek HQ is trying to fix AD as well.

[uniqueMR]

Originally Posted by Mini2

May being a very important word here, considering the times we are in.

Patek did close out many ADs in states and worldwide. Especially last year. In states we are down to 59.

[Ichiran]

Saw 3 of the new Nautilus (5712, 7118 and 5990) at the AD today. I was told that the 5712/1R is more popular than the 5811 due to the higher interest registration. In the metal, the 5712/1R looks like a cross between the 5711/1R and 5712/1A

The 5990 looks nice. I like the new blue dial and if this is the only Nautilus release for 2022, I would have asked for this piece.

The 7118/1300R is out of this world. The way the gems reflect light is mesmerising. I like the whole package of the RG case, dial and the warm colour gems.

[Mini2]

Originally Posted by Ichiran

Saw 3 of the new Nautilus (5712, 7118 and 5990) at the AD today. I was told that the 5712/1R is more popular than the 5811 due to the higher interest registration. In the metal, the 5712/1R looks like a cross between the 5711/1R and 5712/1A

The 5990 looks nice. I like the new blue dial and if this is the only Nautilus release for 2022, I would have asked for this piece.

The 7118/1300R is out of this world. The way the gems reflect light is mesmerising. I like the whole package of the RG case, dial and the warm colour gems.

Can I ask where you're based in the world

[sensui]

Originally Posted by Ichiran

Saw 3 of the new Nautilus (5712, 7118 and 5990) at the AD today. I was told that the 5712/1R is more popular than the 5811 due to the higher interest registration. In the metal, the 5712/1R looks like a cross between the 5711/1R and 5712/1A



The 5990 looks nice. I like the new blue dial and if this is the only Nautilus release for 2022, I would have asked for this piece.



The 7118/1300R is out of this world. The way the gems reflect light is mesmerising. I like the whole package of the RG case, dial and the warm colour gems.

Nice feedback my man. Lucky you got to preview already! Kinda what I imagined the 5712r to be lol. Did you get a look at the movement and see how that looked with the rose gold case and micro rotor etc?

[Partekular]

https://robbreport.com/style/watch-c...es-1234761182/

Explains thinking of Thierry Stern re 5811 WG.

[Ichiran]

Originally Posted by Mini2

Can I ask where you're based in the world

I was at ION Singapore.

Originally Posted by sensui

Nice feedback my man. Lucky you got to preview already! Kinda what I imagined the 5712r to be lol. Did you get a look at the movement and see how that looked with the rose gold case and micro rotor etc?

My pleasure J
I didn't handle the watches and I only saw them through the display case. Re the 5712/1R, I'm certain you will love it. The warm RG aesthetics and the whimsical layout on the brown dial are quite a killer combi. Hope you get yours soon

[jon_jon]

I knew Patek was going larger in case size with their Nautilus series and have been predicting it for the longest times. However I am surpised they only went 1mm larger from 5711 to 5811. Perhaps some forum members who get to see and try on a display model 5811 in person can comment if it still seems "small" on the wrist as the 5711 was a fairly "small" watch for anyone with a 7" or larger wrist.

[sensui]

Originally Posted by Ichiran

I was at ION Singapore.







My pleasure J

I didn't handle the watches and I only saw them through the display case. Re the 5712/1R, I'm certain you will love it. The warm RG aesthetics and the whimsical layout on the brown dial are quite a killer combi. Hope you get yours soon

Thanks M. Really looking forward to it someday and hope your AD got your back on this batch also. Not too worried for you after your recent incomings. Appreciate the info.