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PAKLOKKEI · 24 December 2011, 03:50 PM

Dear All,

I want to buy a PAM210 from local pre-owned market,
but as i know there are lots of replicas also come with Swiss made ETA 6497,
so how can i tell the difference between Fake or Real when they all use the same movement ???

Please advise, thanks !!!!

Regards
Anthony

Andad · 24 December 2011, 03:56 PM

I have a Pam 231 with that movement and also a watch with a basic 6497 movement. The difference under my loupe is chalk and cheese as the Pam movement has been 'blueprinted' and the difference in the finish to all the gears etc is obvious. Unfortunately this might require a comparison of the movements that may not be available to you.
If you can post up pix of this watch and movement we can advise you.

dgr8dude · 26 December 2011, 02:03 PM

My advise is... If price is too good to be true and/or you dont personally know the seller, RUN

bgriz · 26 December 2011, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgr8dude

My advise is... If price is too good to be true and/or you dont personally know the seller, RUN

This

Psmith · 26 December 2011, 02:17 PM

Hi Anthony

210 is not hard to find, so if you have any doubts at all about this particlar piece then move on

zeroshiki · 27 December 2011, 11:08 PM

if buying locally why not bring it to boutique for verification..?

if buying via anywhere else.., refer to dgr8dude's advice.

zeroshiki · 27 December 2011, 11:09 PM

if buying locally why not bring it to boutique for verification..?

if buying via anywhere else.., refer to dgr8dude's advice.

bt8897 · 30 December 2011, 01:20 PM

The replicas have gotten very colse in apperance

Fiddy · 31 December 2011, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by zeroshiki

if buying locally why not bring it to boutique for verification..?

if buying via anywhere else.., refer to dgr8dude's advice.

Totally agree.

Langleyz · 31 December 2011, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Fiddy

Totally agree.

I was sold a fake and my AD didn't spot it when I took it in for a quick verification.

A member here noticed via the pics of the movement though, so if possible, post pics. Very sad that this happens.

dddrees · 31 December 2011, 11:06 PM

Rule !:

Buy the seller.

It's not worth losing sleep or hard earned money buying something you have reason to doubt or believe that it may not be authentic.

jbox168 · 4 January 2012, 07:40 AM

Have it checked first any honest seller will agree with authentication first before the sale can be done

louie · 6 January 2012, 01:12 AM

Buy the seller, than the watch....

24 December 2011, 03:50 PM	#1
PAKLOKKEI "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 158	How to spot a fake PAM Dear All, I want to buy a PAM210 from local pre-owned market, but as i know there are lots of replicas also come with Swiss made ETA 6497, so how can i tell the difference between Fake or Real when they all use the same movement ??? Please advise, thanks !!!! Regards Anthony __________________ 116660 serial G 116520 White serial M 116400GV serial V 3570.50 Speedy Pro

24 December 2011, 03:56 PM	#2
Andad 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 36,797	I have a Pam 231 with that movement and also a watch with a basic 6497 movement. The difference under my loupe is chalk and cheese as the Pam movement has been 'blueprinted' and the difference in the finish to all the gears etc is obvious. Unfortunately this might require a comparison of the movements that may not be available to you. If you can post up pix of this watch and movement we can advise you. __________________ E

26 December 2011, 02:17 PM	#5
Psmith "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Clive Location: Exoplanet Watch: spring-driven Posts: 38,856	Hi Anthony 210 is not hard to find, so if you have any doubts at all about this particlar piece then move on __________________

30 December 2011, 01:20 PM	#8
bt8897 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: the south Posts: 19	Caution!! The replicas have gotten very colse in apperance

31 December 2011, 11:06 PM	#11
dddrees "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: This N That Posts: 34,251	Rule !: Buy the seller. It's not worth losing sleep or hard earned money buying something you have reason to doubt or believe that it may not be authentic. __________________ When it captures your imagination, that's when you know you have found your passion. Loyal Foot Soldier of The Nylon Nation. Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

26 December 2011, 02:03 PM	#3
dgr8dude "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Chad Location: Canada Posts: 279	My advise is... If price is too good to be true and/or you dont personally know the seller, RUN

27 December 2011, 11:08 PM	#6
zeroshiki "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: paul Location: surabaya Posts: 321	if buying locally why not bring it to boutique for verification..? if buying via anywhere else.., refer to dgr8dude's advice.

27 December 2011, 11:09 PM	#7
zeroshiki "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: paul Location: surabaya Posts: 321	if buying locally why not bring it to boutique for verification..? if buying via anywhere else.., refer to dgr8dude's advice.

4 January 2012, 07:40 AM	#12
jbox168 Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Philippines Watch: Rolex Daytona Posts: 38	Have it checked first any honest seller will agree with authentication first before the sale can be done

6 January 2012, 01:12 AM	#13
louie "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Lewis Location: Earth Watch: The Beast Posts: 1,352	As the old saying goes like this.... Buy the seller, than the watch.... __________________ " I THINK PERFECTION IS UGLY. SOMEWHERE IN THE THINGS HUMANS MAKE, I WANT TO SEE SCARS, FAILURE, DISORDER AND DISTORTION" - YOHJI YAMAMOTO

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