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dberdichevsky · 16 January 2021, 01:51 PM

Hi all,

Though I’d share my observations of my brand new Hesalite 3861 Speedmaster Professional. No disrespect here, I’ve owned the prior 1861 a couple of times and there were a couple of things that I just couldn’t get over:

1. Lack of hacking seconds
2. The prior bracelet with end links that didn’t allow the watch and bracelet to wrap nicely around my wrist

The new 3861 iteration of the Moonwatch has quite a few improvements that pushed me to try it again. I wasn’t able to see one in the flesh, but an Omega boutique not far from me had a Hesalite available on bracelet, so I jumped on it.

I’ve been wearing the watch for a couple of days and have been really blown away with the improvements.

First, the bracelet for me, is a game changer. I think it looks amazing and makes wearing the speedy SUPER comfortable. It just kind of melts into my wrist and I forget that it’s there a lot of the time. I’ve read a lot of dislike on other threads/forums about the taper from 20mm down to 15mm as well as the small clasp. I think they are both great. The taper makes the bracelet very comfortable especially when bending my wrist.

Second, it has hacking seconds! I can finally wind my speedy, pull out the crown, and sync the time to the atomic clock! A weird quirk for me, but it makes me happy that I can do that now.

Third, the stepped dial makes a huge difference in creating additional depth/dimension to the dial. Which, for me, is way more aesthetically pleasing. The black of the dial is also deeper and not as much of a matte finish, like before. The white text on the black dial really pops! It also appears that the lume indices have been placed flush into the dial rather than printed over the top.

Fourth, the accuracy of the 3861. I’m at +1 second over the last 48 hours. Really impressive. The prior 1861 Speedmasters that I’ve had were all in the 8-10+ seconds per day range.

Fifth, winding the movement is so much easier. With a more pronounced crown and the fact that it sticks out farther from the case, winding is a breeze. The resistance while winding feels good too, not too much but not too loose.

Overall, I think that the improvements are outstanding. I’m really happy with them and happy to share my observations with all of you. If you are considering one, buy it. Oh, and the smaller box- not a big deal for me. I wear the watch, not the box.

I hope this helps anybody considering the new 3861 Speedmaster Professional.

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brandrea · 16 January 2021, 02:12 PM

Thanks for your review David, great to have your thoughts

Another reviewer here thought the bracelet was uncomfortable and pulled at his skin due to the shape of the links ... I’m glad to hear that for you it’s comfortable.

I’m excited to try one when my AD reopens

dberdichevsky · 16 January 2021, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandrea

Thanks for your review David, great to have your thoughts

Another reviewer here thought the bracelet was uncomfortable and pulled at his skin due to the shape of the links ... I’m glad to hear that for you it’s comfortable.

I’m excited to try one when my AD reopens

Hey Brian- happy to share my thoughts with TRF. I think you’ll be surprised when you try it on. There’s something kind of magical about the new version.

brandrea · 16 January 2021, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dberdichevsky

Hey Brian- happy to share my thoughts with TRF. I think you’ll be surprised when you try it on. There’s something kind of magical about the new version.

Can't wait!

Congratulations again, it looks amazing

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MTdweller · 16 January 2021, 03:01 PM

Thanks for the review! I got to see one last week at my local Omega Boutique and they are impressive! The bracelet in particular was incredibly comfortable.

logo · 16 January 2021, 04:03 PM

Congrats! It’s funny, all the reasons you prefer the 3861 are all the reasons I prefer the 1861. Small details across all the models since the beginning, but they all add up such that everyone can find their very own perfect moonwatch

AEC · 16 January 2021, 08:46 PM

David, many thanks for sharing these insights

I'm glad to hear your new Speedmaster Pro suits you.

1William · 16 January 2021, 10:44 PM

Congratulations. Thank you for your review. It was helpful.

alllexandru · 16 January 2021, 11:17 PM

Congrats!
Please more photos under direct natural light.
Looks good on you.

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H25B · 16 January 2021, 11:19 PM

I think the ultimate success is going to be what the pricing washes out at. For now, they’re going at MSRP from boutiques and it will be interesting if in a year from now they’re being discounted at ADs. And if so, by how much.

If they’re going to be producing these in numbers similar to the 1861 models I don’t see strict adherence to MSRP holding up.

mmaggi · 16 January 2021, 11:25 PM

Congrats & wear it in good health

gnuyork · 16 January 2021, 11:54 PM

Thanks for the review. I currently on the fence between the discounted 1861 and the new one (mostly for the bracelet).

travisb · 17 January 2021, 01:12 AM

Thanks for your opinions. I'm looking forward to having a good look at that one.

dberdichevsky · 17 January 2021, 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gnuyork

Thanks for the review. I currently on the fence between the discounted 1861 and the new one (mostly for the bracelet).

You won’t be disappointed. The new bracelet really changes the feel of this watch on the wrist.

dberdichevsky · 17 January 2021, 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alllexandru

Congrats!
Please more photos under direct natural light.
Looks good on you.

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More pics coming later today....

Thanks for the compliments!

Cru Jones · 17 January 2021, 02:49 AM

Thanks for the the write up. Great pics! Can’t wait to see this one.

Token74 · 17 January 2021, 02:52 AM

The Speedy is the only modern Omega that i like, and boy do i like it. I have an old ‘Reduced’ that works perfectly for me, but if i had bigger wrists I’d go for this new reference in a heartbeat.

Congrats, looks great on you.

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Cassidy776 · 17 January 2021, 03:36 AM

Beautiful dial, nice bracelet but fugly clasp....what was Omega thinking?? I've already been offered a slight discount from my AD on one of these but at a 20% discount, on the 1861, I chose that instead ($4200 vs $6300....c'mom). 3861s will be at 20% discounts, within one year or sooner, as the price increase will be hard to stomach for many along with them being the standard production model, availalble for years to come.

AJMarcus · 17 January 2021, 05:17 AM

Congrats on a great watch. Nice review too

dberdichevsky · 17 January 2021, 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alllexandru

Congrats!
Please more photos under direct natural light.
Looks good on you.

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As requested:

C0d · 17 January 2021, 07:36 AM

Looks awesome mate.

I thought you were gonna sell and best the other guys record.

AJMarcus · 17 January 2021, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C0d

Looks awesome mate.

I thought you were gonna sell and best the other guys record.

Oyster Sauce · 17 January 2021, 07:53 AM

Congrats. Really great proportions on that Speedy.

alllexandru · 17 January 2021, 07:53 AM

Looking great!!
Thanks for the sunlight photos, the step dial it is very nice and more clear to be seen here.
Congrats again!

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FTX I · 17 January 2021, 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C0d

Looks awesome mate.

I thought you were gonna sell and best the other guys record.

I didn't see that coming either.

Cru Jones · 17 January 2021, 08:42 AM

Really fantastic photos, thanks for posting more! The hesalite version has really grown on me. I like the fully brushed bracelet with hesalite and black ring.

Quote:

Originally Posted by C0d

Looks awesome mate.

I thought you were gonna sell and best the other guys record.

colpol · 17 January 2021, 09:20 AM

Good review

Been looking at some of the reviews on YouTube as well & everyone seems to positive about the changes

Can’t believe the hike in price especially since the last price increase was only about 8 months ago. I think this time last year it was priced right/ a lot of people will think twice now.

C0d · 17 January 2021, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by colpol

Good review

Been looking at some of the reviews on YouTube as well & everyone seems to positive about the changes

Can’t believe the hike in price especially since the last price increase was only about 8 months ago. I think this time last year it was priced right/ a lot of people will think twice now.

Don't be surprised if it goes up even more within this year.

Greglaw · 17 January 2021, 09:34 AM

Awesome my deposit is in and should have it March/April can’t wait!!!!!

And thank you for the review and looks great on you!

C0d · 17 January 2021, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greglaw

Awesome my deposit is in and should have it March/April can’t wait!!!!!

And thank you for the review and looks great on you!

ADs are taking deposits on these also now?

16 January 2021, 01:51 PM	#1
dberdichevsky "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Real Name: David Location: PNW USA Watch: utalkinbout Posts: 379	Incoming and Observations of my new 3861 Speedmaster Pro Hi all, Though I’d share my observations of my brand new Hesalite 3861 Speedmaster Professional. No disrespect here, I’ve owned the prior 1861 a couple of times and there were a couple of things that I just couldn’t get over: 1. Lack of hacking seconds 2. The prior bracelet with end links that didn’t allow the watch and bracelet to wrap nicely around my wrist The new 3861 iteration of the Moonwatch has quite a few improvements that pushed me to try it again. I wasn’t able to see one in the flesh, but an Omega boutique not far from me had a Hesalite available on bracelet, so I jumped on it. I’ve been wearing the watch for a couple of days and have been really blown away with the improvements. First, the bracelet for me, is a game changer. I think it looks amazing and makes wearing the speedy SUPER comfortable. It just kind of melts into my wrist and I forget that it’s there a lot of the time. I’ve read a lot of dislike on other threads/forums about the taper from 20mm down to 15mm as well as the small clasp. I think they are both great. The taper makes the bracelet very comfortable especially when bending my wrist. Second, it has hacking seconds! I can finally wind my speedy, pull out the crown, and sync the time to the atomic clock! A weird quirk for me, but it makes me happy that I can do that now. Third, the stepped dial makes a huge difference in creating additional depth/dimension to the dial. Which, for me, is way more aesthetically pleasing. The black of the dial is also deeper and not as much of a matte finish, like before. The white text on the black dial really pops! It also appears that the lume indices have been placed flush into the dial rather than printed over the top. Fourth, the accuracy of the 3861. I’m at +1 second over the last 48 hours. Really impressive. The prior 1861 Speedmasters that I’ve had were all in the 8-10+ seconds per day range. Fifth, winding the movement is so much easier. With a more pronounced crown and the fact that it sticks out farther from the case, winding is a breeze. The resistance while winding feels good too, not too much but not too loose. Overall, I think that the improvements are outstanding. I’m really happy with them and happy to share my observations with all of you. If you are considering one, buy it. Oh, and the smaller box- not a big deal for me. I wear the watch, not the box. I hope this helps anybody considering the new 3861 Speedmaster Professional. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

17 January 2021, 02:52 AM	#17
Token74 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Vince Location: England Watch: Too many! Posts: 5,707	The Speedy is the only modern Omega that i like, and boy do i like it. I have an old ‘Reduced’ that works perfectly for me, but if i had bigger wrists I’d go for this new reference in a heartbeat. Congrats, looks great on you. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Time is limited, make every second count. Patek Philippe Nautilus 5990 - AP Royal Oak 15300 - AP Royal Oak 15450 Blue - AP Royal Oak 15450 Silver - AP Royal Oak Offshore 26480 - Royal Oak Offshore 15710 - Rolex Sea Dweller 116600 - Rolex Daytona 116519 - Rolex GMT 126710 BLRO - Omega Speedmaster Reduced - JLC Reverso GMT Moonphase - TAG Microtimer - Dent Pocket Watch - JLC Atmos Phases de lune

16 January 2021, 02:12 PM	#2
brandrea 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 73,674	Thanks for your review David, great to have your thoughts Another reviewer here thought the bracelet was uncomfortable and pulled at his skin due to the shape of the links ... I’m glad to hear that for you it’s comfortable. I’m excited to try one when my AD reopens

16 January 2021, 03:01 PM	#5
MTdweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Real Name: Ty Location: West Coast Watch: the time fly! Posts: 1,475	Thanks for the review! I got to see one last week at my local Omega Boutique and they are impressive! The bracelet in particular was incredibly comfortable.

16 January 2021, 04:03 PM	#6
logo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: North America Posts: 2,301	Congrats! It’s funny, all the reasons you prefer the 3861 are all the reasons I prefer the 1861. Small details across all the models since the beginning, but they all add up such that everyone can find their very own perfect moonwatch

16 January 2021, 08:46 PM	#7
AEC 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Tony Location: Orchard Park, NY Watch: Idiot Savant Posts: 3,244	David, many thanks for sharing these insights I'm glad to hear your new Speedmaster Pro suits you.

16 January 2021, 10:44 PM	#8
1William 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 44,731	Congratulations. Thank you for your review. It was helpful.

16 January 2021, 11:17 PM	#9
alllexandru 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Real Name: Alex Location: Old continent Posts: 2,317	Congrats! Please more photos under direct natural light. Looks good on you. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

16 January 2021, 11:19 PM	#10
H25B "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Midwest Watch: BLNR, SD43, OP31 Posts: 424	I think the ultimate success is going to be what the pricing washes out at. For now, they’re going at MSRP from boutiques and it will be interesting if in a year from now they’re being discounted at ADs. And if so, by how much. If they’re going to be producing these in numbers similar to the 1861 models I don’t see strict adherence to MSRP holding up.

16 January 2021, 11:25 PM	#11
mmaggi "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Real Name: Michael Location: Nassau County, NY Watch: 16710 Posts: 889	Congrats & wear it in good health

16 January 2021, 11:54 PM	#12
gnuyork "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Marietta, GA Posts: 3,248	Thanks for the review. I currently on the fence between the discounted 1861 and the new one (mostly for the bracelet).

17 January 2021, 01:12 AM	#13
travisb 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Travis Location: FL / NYC Watch: Yes.. Posts: 32,211	Thanks for your opinions. I'm looking forward to having a good look at that one.

17 January 2021, 02:49 AM	#16
Cru Jones 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 34,495	Thanks for the the write up. Great pics! Can’t wait to see this one.

17 January 2021, 03:36 AM	#18
Cassidy776 Banned Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Ventura County Posts: 197	Beautiful dial, nice bracelet but fugly clasp....what was Omega thinking?? I've already been offered a slight discount from my AD on one of these but at a 20% discount, on the 1861, I chose that instead ($4200 vs $6300....c'mom). 3861s will be at 20% discounts, within one year or sooner, as the price increase will be hard to stomach for many along with them being the standard production model, availalble for years to come.

17 January 2021, 05:17 AM	#19
AJMarcus "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: AJ Location: USA Watch: Swiss Posts: 5,205	Congrats on a great watch. Nice review too

17 January 2021, 07:36 AM	#21
C0d Banned Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Kanata Watch: Dog Posts: 815	Looks awesome mate. I thought you were gonna sell and best the other guys record.

17 January 2021, 07:53 AM	#23
Oyster Sauce "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: USA Posts: 1,866	Congrats. Really great proportions on that Speedy.

17 January 2021, 09:20 AM	#27
colpol "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Scotland Posts: 2,844	Good review Been looking at some of the reviews on YouTube as well & everyone seems to positive about the changes Can’t believe the hike in price especially since the last price increase was only about 8 months ago. I think this time last year it was priced right/ a lot of people will think twice now.

17 January 2021, 09:34 AM	#29
Greglaw Banned Join Date: May 2020 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 667	Awesome my deposit is in and should have it March/April can’t wait!!!!! And thank you for the review and looks great on you!

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