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mitadoc · 5 April 2017, 02:43 AM

Hi guys, I am more an Omega guys, so nothing as knowledge based on Rolex.

Anyway, I saw an add for 214270 Explorer with lumed 3,6,9 markers.
Serial number is 8W329480 , yes, it starts with number,not with letter.

The seller said he cannot remove the bracelet , it`s 300 miles away from me,he doesn`t want to go any AD to check teh watch. Some certain signals something is not right.

Anyway, still hoping in miracle to happen.It has just box and the seal,but not papers or whatsoever. The serial is engraved on the rehaut around 6 o`clock,but according to my research - no number starts with a digit, and then a letter, or I am wrong maybe?

The price is too good to be true - 2K. Maybe just another fake,hmm?
Any suggestions? Much appreciated, though.

Later, Dim

padi56 · 5 April 2017, 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mitadoc

Hi guys, I am more an Omega guys, so nothing as knowledge based on Rolex.

Anyway, I saw an add for 214270 Explorer with lumed 3,6,9 markers.
Serial number is 8W329480 , yes, it starts with number,not with letter.

The seller said he cannot remove the bracelet , it`s 300 miles away from me,he doesn`t want to go any AD to check teh watch. Some certain signals something is not right.

Anyway, still hoping in miracle to happen.It has just box and the seal,but not papers or whatsoever. The serial is engraved on the rehaut around 6 o`clock,but according to my research - no number starts with a digit, and then a letter, or I am wrong maybe?

The price is too good to be true - 2K. Maybe just another fake,hmm?
Any suggestions? Much appreciated, though.

Later, Dim

All Rolex watches from the latter part of 2010 will have a 8 digit serial a mixture of letters and numbers its called random serial and can start with a letter or number.

GMT Aviator · 5 April 2017, 03:45 AM

If its too good to be true, it usually is. Steer clear.

Colin10101 · 5 April 2017, 03:46 AM

I wouldn't walk from that deal, I would run. That sounds extremely sketchy.

datejustrms · 5 April 2017, 03:47 AM

I would pass on it.

mjclark32 · 5 April 2017, 04:17 AM

Can't tell from just the serial.
Too good to be true.
Excuses, distance etc.
Bail.
Later

RichM · 5 April 2017, 04:26 AM

That's way too good to be true. Something's not right.

cmajpwc · 5 April 2017, 04:29 AM

For reference, my 214270 (circa 2011) has a serial number starting with 7.

That being said, $2k for a watch less than a year old that retails for $6k+? Couple possibilities:
1) It's stolen, seller doesn't want to risk bringing it to AD for verification in case the owner reported it
2) It's fake
3) It's been horribly damaged to the point where it would cost more to fix it than it's worth

My money is on 1 or 2. I'd stay away if I were you.

BLACKHORSE 6 · 5 April 2017, 04:32 AM

Run away from this. Seems like a scam.

Louis (Toronto) · 5 April 2017, 04:35 AM

Yeah. Likely a replica being passed off as genuine. Any pictures of the watch? Where is the ad posted ?

If it's too good to be true........

Carrera997 · 5 April 2017, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Rich Mickol

That's way too good to be true. Something's not right.

What he said.

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KrismanX · 5 April 2017, 05:12 AM

MMmMmMMmMnnnaaaaahhhh...

mitadoc · 5 April 2017, 06:15 AM

Gumtree is the place for this.
These are the pics.

Hollister · 5 April 2017, 06:20 AM

It doesn't look fake, therefore it's stolen.

Ask him why he's selling it so cheap.

ernie2 · 5 April 2017, 06:27 AM

wait, shouldn't short hands 214270 has no lumes in 369 ?

mitadoc · 5 April 2017, 06:28 AM

Thanks guys. Is there a possibility to check whether it's stolen or not?

jguerra04 · 5 April 2017, 07:08 AM

and new version should also have the smooth clasp not rough.

RichM · 5 April 2017, 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ernie2

wait, shouldn't short hands 214270 has no lumes in 369 ?

I was thinking the same thing. The clasp should be polished, not frosted. Unless it's just the picture. Lume does look pretty good.

FTX I · 5 April 2017, 07:13 AM

RichM · 5 April 2017, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mitadoc

Thanks guys. Is there a possibility to check whether it's stolen or not?

I don't think Rolex will give you that kind of info over the phone. If you go to the RSC with the watch, and it is stolen, they may confiscate it.

I'm far from an expert, but I do have one from last year. With that dial, should have longer hands and polished clasp.

Tools · 5 April 2017, 07:18 AM

Nothing wrong with the serial number, and the pictured watch looks like it is authentic..

That said, there is also no guarantee that this is the watch that you will actually receive; they are just pictures.

mitadoc · 5 April 2017, 07:22 AM

More pics from seller.

Kyle78 · 5 April 2017, 07:29 AM

Those are definitely short hands, that shouldn't be on the latest model with the lumed arabics. Also, the inside of the clasp shouldn't have a blasted finish. This is a fake or frankenwatch. Stay away! Also, why does it have a calander from 2014?

harshad4005 · 5 April 2017, 07:30 AM

I would stay away if I were u, tag is wrong for the new Explorer, they come with the green chronometer tag and also the calendar used to be given with the old models not the new ones.

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Maxy · 5 April 2017, 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

Nothing wrong with the serial number, and the pictured watch looks like it is authentic..

That said, there is also no guarantee that this is the watch that you will actually receive; they are just pictures.

214270 with short hands never had 369 lumed. Its a clear fake IMHO!!

mitadoc · 5 April 2017, 07:36 AM

Thank you for the help,guys.

Ben.McDonald7 · 5 April 2017, 07:41 AM

I agree with the others above. It is either fake or franken due to the incorrect hands and clasp. Too good to be true is always your first and best indication even if it looks 100% real...like others have said its probably stolen. Run!

Random · 5 April 2017, 07:43 AM

Mitadoc,
I'm no expert either but I have a few observations.
1. The serial number that is engraved at 6 o'clock on the rehaut flange appears too tightly packed the 8 characters should be more spaced out.
2. The bracelet screws do not finish completely flush on either the screw head or the tail ends. They are also badly marred.
3. The locking clasp on the bracelet on the pic above does not align with the main portion of the clasp. It should. It could have been damaged.
4. The gaps between the 8 rectangular "plain" markers and their corresponding minute chapter marks are inconsistent.
If in doubt... don't
Regards

kauffee · 5 April 2017, 07:44 AM

I was thinking the same thing about the sandblasted clasp. Lumed 3/6/9 shouldn't have that. My guess is it's a dial replacement/frankenwatch. Regardless, stay away.

F1polesitter · 5 April 2017, 08:11 AM

This is a fake with gen hands from the MK1.

Like everyone has said, stay away.

5 April 2017, 02:43 AM	#1
mitadoc "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: East Sussex, UK Watch: 126300 Posts: 73	I apologise if you are sick of this,but... 214270 - fake or gen according to serial? Hi guys, I am more an Omega guys, so nothing as knowledge based on Rolex. Anyway, I saw an add for 214270 Explorer with lumed 3,6,9 markers. Serial number is 8W329480 , yes, it starts with number,not with letter. The seller said he cannot remove the bracelet , it`s 300 miles away from me,he doesn`t want to go any AD to check teh watch. Some certain signals something is not right. Anyway, still hoping in miracle to happen.It has just box and the seal,but not papers or whatsoever. The serial is engraved on the rehaut around 6 o`clock,but according to my research - no number starts with a digit, and then a letter, or I am wrong maybe? The price is too good to be true - 2K. Maybe just another fake,hmm? Any suggestions? Much appreciated, though. Later, Dim

5 April 2017, 03:46 AM	#4
Colin10101 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Real Name: Colin Location: Toronto Watch: 16710 Posts: 1,336	I wouldn't walk from that deal, I would run. That sounds extremely sketchy. __________________ Rolex GMT-Master II 16710 "Z" Serial COKE Montblanc 1858 Iced Sea *BLACK*

5 April 2017, 04:17 AM	#6
mjclark32 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: MJC Location: PHL USA Watch: IWC, Rolex, AP Posts: 29,232	Can't tell from just the serial. Too good to be true. Excuses, distance etc. Bail. Later __________________

5 April 2017, 04:26 AM	#7
RichM 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Real Name: Richie Location: "Nowhere Man" Watch: out now,take care! Posts: 28,210	That's way too good to be true. Something's not right. __________________ "I love to work at nothing all day" TRF #139960

5 April 2017, 05:12 AM	#12
KrismanX "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Real Name: Kristofer Location: Los Angeles, CA Watch: my feet. Posts: 2,364	MMmMmMMmMnnnaaaaahhhh... __________________ No sticker left behind. "Better three hours too soon, than a minute too late." "All we have to do is decide what to do with the time that is given to us." ref. 116520 Daytona - 10/2014

5 April 2017, 03:45 AM	#3
GMT Aviator 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 X2 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Real Name: Mike Location: London Posts: 3,276	If its too good to be true, it usually is. Steer clear.

5 April 2017, 03:47 AM	#5
datejustrms "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: USA Watch: Rolex Posts: 2,799	I would pass on it.

5 April 2017, 04:29 AM	#8
cmajpwc "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Real Name: Paul Location: USA Watch: Explorer 1 Posts: 76	For reference, my 214270 (circa 2011) has a serial number starting with 7. That being said, $2k for a watch less than a year old that retails for $6k+? Couple possibilities: 1) It's stolen, seller doesn't want to risk bringing it to AD for verification in case the owner reported it 2) It's fake 3) It's been horribly damaged to the point where it would cost more to fix it than it's worth My money is on 1 or 2. I'd stay away if I were you.

5 April 2017, 04:32 AM	#9
BLACKHORSE 6 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: Dave Location: USA Watch: Rolex SS Daytona Posts: 2,623	Run away from this. Seems like a scam.

5 April 2017, 04:35 AM	#10
Louis (Toronto) "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Canada Watch: Yachtmaster & SubC Posts: 641	Yeah. Likely a replica being passed off as genuine. Any pictures of the watch? Where is the ad posted ? If it's too good to be true........

5 April 2017, 06:20 AM	#14
Hollister Banned Join Date: Apr 2016 Real Name: James Location: UK Watch: 114300 Posts: 1,750	It doesn't look fake, therefore it's stolen. Ask him why he's selling it so cheap.

5 April 2017, 06:27 AM	#15
ernie2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Real Name: Arnold Location: New York Watch: SD4K+BLNR Posts: 849	wait, shouldn't short hands 214270 has no lumes in 369 ?

5 April 2017, 06:28 AM	#16
mitadoc "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: East Sussex, UK Watch: 126300 Posts: 73	Thanks guys. Is there a possibility to check whether it's stolen or not?

5 April 2017, 07:08 AM	#17
jguerra04 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Texas Watch: Day/GMT/Sub/43/SKY Posts: 250	and new version should also have the smooth clasp not rough.

5 April 2017, 07:18 AM	#21
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,049	Nothing wrong with the serial number, and the pictured watch looks like it is authentic.. That said, there is also no guarantee that this is the watch that you will actually receive; they are just pictures. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

5 April 2017, 07:22 AM	#22
mitadoc "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: East Sussex, UK Watch: 126300 Posts: 73	More pics from seller.

5 April 2017, 07:29 AM	#23
Kyle78 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: USA Posts: 39	Those are definitely short hands, that shouldn't be on the latest model with the lumed arabics. Also, the inside of the clasp shouldn't have a blasted finish. This is a fake or frankenwatch. Stay away! Also, why does it have a calander from 2014?

5 April 2017, 07:30 AM	#24
harshad4005 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Australia Posts: 853	I would stay away if I were u, tag is wrong for the new Explorer, they come with the green chronometer tag and also the calendar used to be given with the old models not the new ones. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

5 April 2017, 07:36 AM	#26
mitadoc "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: East Sussex, UK Watch: 126300 Posts: 73	Thank you for the help,guys.

5 April 2017, 07:41 AM	#27
Ben.McDonald7 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Arizona Watch: Rolex 116500LN Posts: 823	I agree with the others above. It is either fake or franken due to the incorrect hands and clasp. Too good to be true is always your first and best indication even if it looks 100% real...like others have said its probably stolen. Run!

5 April 2017, 07:43 AM	#28
Random "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: UK Watch: Sub & Exp Posts: 87	Mitadoc, I'm no expert either but I have a few observations. 1. The serial number that is engraved at 6 o'clock on the rehaut flange appears too tightly packed the 8 characters should be more spaced out. 2. The bracelet screws do not finish completely flush on either the screw head or the tail ends. They are also badly marred. 3. The locking clasp on the bracelet on the pic above does not align with the main portion of the clasp. It should. It could have been damaged. 4. The gaps between the 8 rectangular "plain" markers and their corresponding minute chapter marks are inconsistent. If in doubt... don't Regards

5 April 2017, 07:44 AM	#29
kauffee 2024 ROLEX DATE-JUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Portland, OR Watch: 116610LN, 116500LN Posts: 1,379	I was thinking the same thing about the sandblasted clasp. Lumed 3/6/9 shouldn't have that. My guess is it's a dial replacement/frankenwatch. Regardless, stay away.

5 April 2017, 08:11 AM	#30
F1polesitter "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Canada Posts: 204	This is a fake with gen hands from the MK1. Like everyone has said, stay away.

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