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Old 7 September 2010, 10:01 AM   #1
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my rolex authenticity

hello all, quite simply as the topic says. im new and i inherited a new rolex yacht master, gold band. glod face with white dials. im going to the local dealer tomorrow to get its authenticity check, but sense its labor day why not turn to the webs :P

anyways, i got nothing to do so i can take as many pictures of what ever you want...heres a main one for the time being
its from my phone, so not the best, but i have my camera here..

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Old 7 September 2010, 11:01 AM   #2
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IMO...fake. Cornet is wrong, the thickness of the lume surrounds is too thick, the gold is discoloring (unless that is just the photo) and I dont believe that they came with champagne dials.
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Old 7 September 2010, 11:03 AM   #3
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IMO...fake. Cornet is wrong, the thickness of the lume surrounds is too thick, the gold is discoloring (unless that is just the photo) and I dont believe that they came with champagne dials.
Bad magnification on Cyclops.

Fake.
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I am no expert but the dial font, hands and hour markers all look off.
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Old 7 September 2010, 11:05 AM   #5
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Bad magnification on Cyclops.
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Old 7 September 2010, 11:06 AM   #6
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minute hand is too small for a maxi dial reference.

+1 on Allan. I don't think it was available with the champagne dial
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Old 7 September 2010, 11:14 AM   #7
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minute hand is too small for a maxi dial reference.
It should be past the seconds markers right?
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Old 7 September 2010, 11:38 AM   #8
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hmmmmmm i guess.. let me take a few more pix...i honestly think its legit. but again, im no expert. ill add a few give me just a sec
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Old 7 September 2010, 11:39 AM   #9
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hmmmmmm i guess.. let me take a few more pix...i honestly think its legit. but again, im no expert. ill add a few give me just a sec
If you can remove the band and take pictures between the lugs, that would also help.
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Old 7 September 2010, 11:42 AM   #10
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Bad magnification on Cyclops.

Fake.
whats it SUPPOSED to be then? instead of just telling me its wrong

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It should be past the seconds markers right?
same here.. whats it SUPPOSED to be..

like i said, ill get more detailed pixs gimme a sec
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Old 7 September 2010, 11:47 AM   #11
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Can you provide us with more information on how you acquired it?

Can you give us pictures of the back, bracelet, endpieces, etc?

Thanks!
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Here's a pic of mine to compare....
Should explain a couple of things.....
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Old 7 September 2010, 11:50 AM   #13
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If you can remove the band and take pictures between the lugs, that would also help.
can you tell me how to do that without ruining it?
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Old 7 September 2010, 11:52 AM   #14
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Can you provide us with more information on how you acquired it?

Can you give us pictures of the back, bracelet, endpieces, etc?

Thanks!
one second, battery is charging...it was dead..

acquired through an estate. gentleman passed and he was a collector of sorts. i have yet to find any paper work for it. but i found numerous seiko watches all valued at 800-1000 with paper work and receipts.
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whats it SUPPOSED to be then? instead of just telling me its wrong
2.5 times magnification

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same here.. whats it SUPPOSED to be..
See here for example: http://www.qualitytyme.net/pages/rolex_or_replica.html

YACHT-MASTER "MINUTE" HAND... Genuine Rolex Yacht-Master models feature a "minute" hand which is considerably thicker than those on other Rolex sports models. However, to save money, counterfeiters will often use the same hands found on the Submariner
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Minute markers are to long,Minute hand is to thin,Date should be larger and coronet looks off on the dial.....
Would like to see more pics of the back though and a little info on where and how aquired...If it was a cheap buy,then to good to be true usually is.!
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Old 7 September 2010, 11:56 AM   #17
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Coronet is wrong and in the wrong place.
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Old 7 September 2010, 12:01 PM   #18
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Coronet is wrong and in the wrong place.
what is the coronet?
crown?
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Old 7 September 2010, 12:02 PM   #19
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can you tell me how to do that without ruining it?
The pins compress like the rod in a toilet tissue holder. You need a thin, sturdy blade to do it (they also have special tools for that).

If you are unsure, I'd say let the AD do it for you.
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The gold looks tarnished or rubbed off in the pics. Is it that way in person?
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The gold looks tarnished or rubbed off in the pics. Is it that way in person?
no it doesnt, and the watch has a fair amount of weight to it.

what ive noticed, the hands are thinner, but other than that..i did visit that tyme website and everything else seem to match up..

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one second, battery is charging...it was dead..

acquired through an estate. gentleman passed and he was a collector of sorts. i have yet to find any paper work for it. but i found numerous seiko watches all valued at 800-1000 with paper work and receipts.
May I ask what you paid for it?

And do you know its resale value?
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Thanks for the pics.... and sorry!
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Old 7 September 2010, 12:16 PM   #25
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May I ask what you paid for it?

And do you know its resale value?
nothing..
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Old 7 September 2010, 12:17 PM   #26
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im gonna go try to find some small tools in my garage, i should have something to snap off the band. i think i can do it.
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Old 7 September 2010, 12:19 PM   #27
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Whats the R for on the top right lug?
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nothing..
So nothing is lost (or gained).... except your time.
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The markers and numbers are to thick(raised) on the bezel and that coronet on the clasp blades and winding crown are all wrong.....I'm no expert but many things don't look right!
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im gonna go try to find some small tools in my garage, i should have something to snap off the band. i think i can do it.
If you have a precision tool kit the small flathead screwdriver will do the trick.

See here for video on how to remove band.

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