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Mr.Jack · 20 July 2018, 04:45 AM

I attended a Tudor event briefly last evening at Shreve in SF. There were a few Tudor USA sales and brand reps and they brought the model pieces from Baselworld. I spoke to a few reps (Luke and Mike are amazing guys!) and they let me know that ADs should be getting a trickle starting in late August/late September depending on the AD. Also was told that it's going to be a trickle in the beginning and that the reason they're being a bit slow state side is so they can properly get a sense of demand from global sales so they by November/December the waitlists will all be fulfilled and pieces will be in stock at most ADs. Seems like they aren't taking the big brother approach to inventory here

Below are some pics. I'm only interested in the leather, so apologies for only having pictures of that next to my 114060.

114060 on for comparison

Mind, I have ~6.5inch wrists. Note again, that this group of models were the Baselworld watches and have been traveling for a bit. You can see the leather is starting to get a little lighter in some spots and a bit darker in some. Looks good after being handled for a few months

Mr.Jack · 20 July 2018, 04:46 AM

Little shout out to Ari at Shreve for the invite and for the lovely conversation I had with her yesterday! Actually pretty impressed with the clasp on the leather too. The ball bearing clasp felt pretty good, though I wasn't too big a fan of the TUDOR on the fold over clasp.

Texasjim · 21 July 2018, 01:37 PM

This will be my first Tudor. Deposit made, and #1 on the list from my local AD for the 58. Have a great relationship with these folks, and they are telling me August. Went with the leather strap and deployment clasp for my 8” wrist. Have plenty of modern and vintage Subs and SD’s on bracelets if I’m feeling the need of steel.

It is my opinion that Tudor is playing to the “tool watch” folks who’s first instinct is to go standard Rolex Sub/GMT/Exp. My dealer is telling me they are seeing their Rolex regulars now inquiring about Tudor. This all may be a strategy set out by both Rolex and Tudor. This 58 reminds me of a mid 80’s quality Sub made to look like a 6538. I dig....and can’t wait.

Cheers!

jfo2010 · 21 July 2018, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Texasjim

This will be my first Tudor. Deposit made, and #1 on the list from my local AD for the 58. Have a great relationship with these folks, and they are telling me August. Went with the leather strap and deployment clasp for my 8” wrist. Have plenty of modern and vintage Subs and SD’s on bracelets if I’m feeling the need of steel.

It is my opinion that Tudor is playing to the “tool watch” folks who’s first instinct is to go standard Rolex Sub/GMT/Exp. My dealer is telling me they are seeing their Rolex regulars now inquiring about Tudor. This all may be a strategy set out by both Rolex and Tudor. This 58 reminds me of a mid 80’s quality Sub made to look like a 6538. I dig....and can’t wait.

Cheers!

Yeah with a bracelet that doesn’t feel like a tin can!!

Robbyman · 21 July 2018, 06:45 PM

I know this not really correct but it looks like one of those £300 brand attempts to make a modern version of a vintage Rolex. Aka Steinhart.

The Tudor is better that Steinhart for sure and very well priced. It will be popular, a great watch and I can totally understand why somebody would buy one.

For me, I’ll stick with Rolex.

watchmavan · 21 July 2018, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbyman

I know this not really correct but it looks like one of those £300 brand attempts to make a modern version of a vintage Rolex. Aka Steinhart.

The Tudor is better that Steinhart for sure and very well priced. It will be popular, a great watch and I can totally understand why somebody would buy one.

For me, I’ll stick with Rolex.

You seem to be quite busy on various threads bagging Tudor! Obviously you have no time for them and that is your right but when your posts start reading like a troll...

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Coop13 · 21 July 2018, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watchmavan

You seem to be quite busy on various threads bagging Tudor! Obviously you have no time for them and that is your right but when your posts start reading like a troll...

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I don’t feel like he’s bagging Tudor. Just giving his opinion. Besides he can post what he wants.

dubins930 · 22 July 2018, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbyman

I know this not really correct but it looks like one of those £300 brand attempts to make a modern version of a vintage Rolex. Aka Steinhart.

The Tudor is better that Steinhart for sure and very well priced. It will be popular, a great watch and I can totally understand why somebody would buy one.

For me, I’ll stick with Rolex.

Ya Rolex is the best watches in the UNIVERSE!!!!!!! Nothing even compares ever!!!

watchmavan · 22 July 2018, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubins930

Ya Rolex is the best watches in the UNIVERSE!!!!!!! Nothing even compares ever!!!

Kind of reminds me what my mother used to say...
If you've not got something nice to say, don't bother saying it!

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misterpeanut · 22 July 2018, 04:25 PM

Generally, I find that those that bash Tudors know less about watches and are mostly posers concerned with impressing others with their watches rather than true watch enthusiasts. Tudors are a totally different watch in a separate segment, offering a different style philosophy from the big brother but with a similar manufacturing philosophy. The Toyota to Lexus comparison is apt, but someone saying the Totoya is similar to a Yugo is just uninformed and has zero credibility.

Everyone can post opinions though. But you know the old saying: opinions are like rear ends...everyone has one, and most of them stink!

bp1000 · 22 July 2018, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbyman

I know this not really correct but it looks like one of those £300 brand attempts to make a modern version of a vintage Rolex. Aka Steinhart.

The Tudor is better that Steinhart for sure and very well priced. It will be popular, a great watch and I can totally understand why somebody would buy one.

For me, I’ll stick with Rolex.

I think you need to spend more time with Tudor watches, your way off the mark.

I’ve seen Steinhart watches and they aren’t a patch on tudor.

I’m a huge Rolex fan but I prefer the black bay & B.B. fifty-eight over a black sub-c for example. I prefer the Tudor gmt over the new Rolex gmt (but perhaps not the 16750)

Some of the brushwork and finishing on the Tudor lugs is incredible. Pearlescent almost.

We can all like what we like, I happen to think Tudor are releasing more interesting watches than Rolex at the moment. I’ll still buy from both brands, I just don’t get why it has to be Rolex only.

Oscarpapa · 22 July 2018, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by misterpeanut

Generally, I find that those that bash Tudors know less about watches and are mostly posers concerned with impressing others with their watches rather than true watch enthusiasts. Tudors are a totally different watch in a separate segment, offering a different style philosophy from the big brother but with a similar manufacturing philosophy. The Toyota to Lexus comparison is apt, but someone saying the Totoya is similar to a Yugo is just uninformed and has zero credibility.

Everyone can post opinions though. But you know the old saying: opinions are like rear ends...everyone has one, and most of them stink!

Good post and points.

Oscarpapa · 22 July 2018, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bp1000

I think you need to spend more time with Tudor watches, your way off the mark.

I’ve seen Steinhart watches and they aren’t a patch on tudor.

I’m a huge Rolex fan but I prefer the black bay & B.B. fifty-eight over a black sub-c for example. I prefer the Tudor gmt over the new Rolex gmt (but perhaps not the 16750)

Some of the brushwork and finishing on the Tudor lugs is incredible. Pearlescent almost.

We can all like what we like, I happen to think Tudor are releasing more interesting watches than Rolex at the moment. I’ll still buy from both brands, I just don’t get why it has to be Rolex only.

Again, good post and points.

Coopdog · 23 July 2018, 06:26 AM

I feel similarly, if you disregard the brand name and just judge these watches on their merits, the Tudor is not much lower quality than the Rolex, for a 3rd of the price, and the design is more interesting, even if somewhat polarizing. Trashing Tudor shows you don’t know much. They are arguably the best value in Swiss sports watches. You don’t have to like them. That’s personal opinion, but they are quite well made and robust, with a good movement from a very good manufacturer for 1/3 the cost of similar equipment with a Rolex sticker on it.

desmoboy · 23 July 2018, 07:21 AM

My Tudor Fifty Eight is equal to any SS Rolex, both in quality and looks.. it is just lovely!

Finslayer83 · 23 July 2018, 08:24 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lci3ijH-sOM

Great short video posted in the past week.

helped seal the deal - deposit going down this week.

Sub King · 23 July 2018, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by desmoboy

My Tudor Fifty Eight is equal to any SS Rolex, both in quality and looks.. it is just lovely!

Wow, what a stunning pic! Tudor really hit a home run with this watch.

Likestheshiny · 23 July 2018, 08:45 AM

Quote:

I think you need to spend more time with Tudor watches, your way off the mark.

He... literally described that Tudors are quite nice in his post that you quoted. Are you so sensitive about your own preferences that someone who acknowledges Tudor's quality but still doesn't care for it is "way off the mark"?

Locust · 23 July 2018, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbyman

I know this not really correct but it looks like one of those £300 brand attempts to make a modern version of a vintage Rolex. Aka Steinhart.

The Tudor is better that Steinhart for sure and very well priced. It will be popular, a great watch and I can totally understand why somebody would buy one.

For me, I’ll stick with Rolex.

Tudor is Rolex. You know that right?

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hitman23 · 23 July 2018, 09:52 AM

BB-58 looks mighty nice. Still don't like the rivet bracelets they are using though.

HauteHorlogerie · 23 July 2018, 01:21 PM

BB58 is so perfect in so many ways. The touches of gold are stunning.

onij · 24 July 2018, 10:01 AM

Oh well just got word from US AD east coast.
Per Tudor rep end of Aug.

Tan · 24 July 2018, 10:02 AM

Love this watch and size!

watchmavan · 24 July 2018, 02:05 PM

Just dropped in to AD to order the cloth strap. Have had the 58 for a week now. While I was in the AD I had a good look at the 41's. Looking at them now they are massive watches. Lovin the

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Oscarpapa · 24 July 2018, 03:31 PM

Great photo of the 58.

ThePoorUniStudent · 25 July 2018, 02:53 PM

Even better with the Yarra in the background ;)

Which AD did you go through?

watchmavan · 25 July 2018, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThePoorUniStudent

Even better with the Yarra in the background ;)

Which AD did you go through?

Kennedy. Great service and treatment.

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aurenas · 28 July 2018, 09:45 PM

Today i visited AD in Oslo. They said waiting list for bb58 on bracelet its +-8 months and for strap version +-1 month.

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Mephist · 28 July 2018, 10:24 PM

The last several years Tudor have really outdone themselves. I love the Fifty Eight and it would fit my wrist perfectly. I just wish they would put date on more of their Black Bay diver models other then the steel and gold models, because I do not like gold I want steel only.

Finslayer83 · 31 July 2018, 07:13 AM

Daily bump.

Let’s hope this proper size carries over to the pelagos!

20 July 2018, 04:45 AM	#361
Mr.Jack "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: California Watch: 114060 Posts: 84	Tudor Black Bay 58 I attended a Tudor event briefly last evening at Shreve in SF. There were a few Tudor USA sales and brand reps and they brought the model pieces from Baselworld. I spoke to a few reps (Luke and Mike are amazing guys!) and they let me know that ADs should be getting a trickle starting in late August/late September depending on the AD. Also was told that it's going to be a trickle in the beginning and that the reason they're being a bit slow state side is so they can properly get a sense of demand from global sales so they by November/December the waitlists will all be fulfilled and pieces will be in stock at most ADs. Seems like they aren't taking the big brother approach to inventory here Below are some pics. I'm only interested in the leather, so apologies for only having pictures of that next to my 114060. 114060 on for comparison Mind, I have ~6.5inch wrists. Note again, that this group of models were the Baselworld watches and have been traveling for a bit. You can see the leather is starting to get a little lighter in some spots and a bit darker in some. Looks good after being handled for a few months

21 July 2018, 01:37 PM	#363
Texasjim 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Jim Location: Lone Star State Watch: ...this! Posts: 156	This will be my first Tudor. Deposit made, and #1 on the list from my local AD for the 58. Have a great relationship with these folks, and they are telling me August. Went with the leather strap and deployment clasp for my 8” wrist. Have plenty of modern and vintage Subs and SD’s on bracelets if I’m feeling the need of steel. It is my opinion that Tudor is playing to the “tool watch” folks who’s first instinct is to go standard Rolex Sub/GMT/Exp. My dealer is telling me they are seeing their Rolex regulars now inquiring about Tudor. This all may be a strategy set out by both Rolex and Tudor. This 58 reminds me of a mid 80’s quality Sub made to look like a 6538. I dig....and can’t wait. Cheers! __________________ 114060, 116010lv, 126710BLRO, 126600, 126610, 116600, 16600, 3x 5513, 1675, 16610, 2x 1680, 16800, 16610LV, 14060M, 126300, 16710, 116500, 116613, 16803

28 July 2018, 09:45 PM	#388
aurenas "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Toronto Posts: 252	Today i visited AD in Oslo. They said waiting list for bb58 on bracelet its +-8 months and for strap version +-1 month. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Your only limit is YOU Instagram watchauren

28 July 2018, 10:24 PM	#389
Mephist "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Earth Posts: 781	The last several years Tudor have really outdone themselves. I love the Fifty Eight and it would fit my wrist perfectly. I just wish they would put date on more of their Black Bay diver models other then the steel and gold models, because I do not like gold I want steel only. __________________ ...And in the end, it’s not the years in your life that count. It’s the life in your years...

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20 July 2018, 04:46 AM	#362
Mr.Jack "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: California Watch: 114060 Posts: 84	Little shout out to Ari at Shreve for the invite and for the lovely conversation I had with her yesterday! Actually pretty impressed with the clasp on the leather too. The ball bearing clasp felt pretty good, though I wasn't too big a fan of the TUDOR on the fold over clasp.

21 July 2018, 06:45 PM	#365
Robbyman "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Blighty (England) Watch: Daytona/Pepsi/Sub Posts: 1,517	I know this not really correct but it looks like one of those £300 brand attempts to make a modern version of a vintage Rolex. Aka Steinhart. The Tudor is better that Steinhart for sure and very well priced. It will be popular, a great watch and I can totally understand why somebody would buy one. For me, I’ll stick with Rolex.

22 July 2018, 04:25 PM	#370
misterpeanut "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Va Posts: 49	Generally, I find that those that bash Tudors know less about watches and are mostly posers concerned with impressing others with their watches rather than true watch enthusiasts. Tudors are a totally different watch in a separate segment, offering a different style philosophy from the big brother but with a similar manufacturing philosophy. The Toyota to Lexus comparison is apt, but someone saying the Totoya is similar to a Yugo is just uninformed and has zero credibility. Everyone can post opinions though. But you know the old saying: opinions are like rear ends...everyone has one, and most of them stink!

23 July 2018, 06:26 AM	#374
Coopdog "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 267	I feel similarly, if you disregard the brand name and just judge these watches on their merits, the Tudor is not much lower quality than the Rolex, for a 3rd of the price, and the design is more interesting, even if somewhat polarizing. Trashing Tudor shows you don’t know much. They are arguably the best value in Swiss sports watches. You don’t have to like them. That’s personal opinion, but they are quite well made and robust, with a good movement from a very good manufacturer for 1/3 the cost of similar equipment with a Rolex sticker on it.

23 July 2018, 08:24 AM	#376
Finslayer83 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Tennessee Watch: DW-5600 Posts: 1,584	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lci3ijH-sOM Great short video posted in the past week. helped seal the deal - deposit going down this week.

23 July 2018, 09:52 AM	#380
hitman23 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: ny Posts: 765	BB-58 looks mighty nice. Still don't like the rivet bracelets they are using though.

23 July 2018, 01:21 PM	#381
HauteHorlogerie Banned Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: My house Watch: 519LN \| 64A Posts: 1,241	BB58 is so perfect in so many ways. The touches of gold are stunning.

24 July 2018, 10:01 AM	#382
onij "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: NY/NJ Posts: 4	Oh well just got word from US AD east coast. Per Tudor rep end of Aug.

24 July 2018, 10:02 AM	#383
Tan "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Canada Watch: PP 5320G Posts: 1,258	Love this watch and size!

24 July 2018, 02:05 PM	#384
watchmavan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Real Name: Michael Location: Melbourne, Aust Watch: Polar 16570 Posts: 1,166	Just dropped in to AD to order the cloth strap. Have had the 58 for a week now. While I was in the AD I had a good look at the 41's. Looking at them now they are massive watches. Lovin the Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

24 July 2018, 03:31 PM	#385
Oscarpapa "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Real Name: Noah Location: Ulster Posts: 388	Great photo of the 58.

25 July 2018, 02:53 PM	#386
ThePoorUniStudent "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Australia Posts: 4	Even better with the Yarra in the background ;) Which AD did you go through?

31 July 2018, 07:13 AM	#390
Finslayer83 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Tennessee Watch: DW-5600 Posts: 1,584	Daily bump. Let’s hope this proper size carries over to the pelagos!

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