Is it worth it to pay £2.6k extra for the 2017 Sea-dweller, SD43

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by watchwatcher

Nice LEC shot, Scott!^^

Thanks Larry - its becomming a habit

[2ltdjorn]

Have one at local AD for MSRP

[gwalker]

Not in the US


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[Ruud Van Driver]

Originally Posted by Devildog

Don't forget the VAT Paul.

DavidSW's used would work out at circa £11,500 on the wrist, and his BNIB would be circa £12,150

Makes the Chronext one at £10,970 a bargain by comparison.

If I was the OP and I could afford it, I'd seriously consider paying the premium now and getting on the lists. If one comes up, he could always flip it if they were still commanding a premoum or pass if the price had stabilised.

Here's a pic to help the OP's choice

Would you pay VAT on the used one, Scotty? On the new one, for sure, but does it apply to second hand goods?

[mahefa]

No. Many AD’s have them in stock.

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by Ruud Van Driver

Would you pay VAT on the used one, Scotty? On the new one, for sure, but does it apply to second hand goods?

Sadly you do - as its from outside of the EU. New or used, makes no difference

[Ruud Van Driver]

Originally Posted by Devildog

Sadly you do - as its from outside of the EU. New or used, makes no difference

Bummer. Thanks for the heads up

[stuntcrew22]

Originally Posted by Analysing You

This is a beautiful piece, its just perfect in every way. If you like it, you should buy it. In the UK at the moment you can't even get a Sub date easily so these types of pieces will always command a premium, which will not go away any time soon. Now if you believe there is a price rise coming, you can't really lose as it will only reinforce a higher premium. Do you think these watches will be readily available? I don't think so...

True that man! Especially in London!

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[stuntcrew22]

Originally Posted by yhzdude

I M lucky enough that I got one at retail.
If I had a christal ball I will tell you to buy or not. ..unfortunately it s supply and demand. But I would not pay over retail. I would pick something else...
I visited 10 AD.
From Vancouver to Amsterdam to find one. Not easy. Best of luck.

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Congratulations on being one of the luckiest SD43 owners! I went to Amsterdam recently, but found none. I get the same old boring response from most ADs! Where did you pick up yours exactly if you don't mind me asking?

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[stuntcrew22]

Originally Posted by drdunc

Patience is a virtue....sadly, there are those who cannot wait.....
I refuse to pay more than RRP...I did once on a new 2004 Sub date.....in the days when they were totally scarce.....and still own it. I think that if one wants something badly enough, then get it....life too short.

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking too! Waiting is a pain! But I'll keep looking and wait until at least February. If I couldn't find one, then be it, I'll just purchase one at the lowest premium I'd have to pay :/

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[stuntcrew22]

Originally Posted by N_Swe

First of all - its a big watch. Im used to Explorer2 42 mm and the sd43 felt w a y bigger. It was too heavy and thick for me, so I let it go. The Explorer stayed.

However, Its a beauty and build like a tank.

Well, I guess it really depends on your wrist size. I'm used to 42-44mm watches. I even tried the DSSD, but the issue wasn't the diameter, but rather the thickness. The SD43 is simply perfect for me

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[stuntcrew22]

Originally Posted by 1William

I am a SD43 owner and I paid over retail from a TS here on TRF. I got the watch early after release and have enjoyed it everyday since. It is the perfect Rolex diver for me. Size is not too large, bracelet works in relation to case size, bezel, dial, red text and I even like the cyclops. I started with a Submariner 25 years ago and I always wanted it in a larger size. The DSSD is great but after several attempts just did not work for me. There is a line that I will not pay over msrp. See Daytona-C for reference. But for what I paid it was as if I paid tax at my AD and added a few hundred more. For the enjoyment of owning the watch it has been worth it for me. Plus now I don't search it out or agonize over it. I now do that over another watch. Go try it on at a Grey, see if it works, negotiate with the Grey in person. Get the best deal possible. Buy the watch and move on. Good luck.

First of all, great photos man! That's what I thought too! I've tried it at watchfinder, which is like a preowned watch seller, it was absolutely brilliant! The SD43 will simply be the only Rolex diver I'd need and I don't plan on flipping it anyway. In fact, I've never even flipped any. It'll be a watch which I'd keep for the rest of my life. I seriously don't mind paying, say additional $1k, but about $3k extra here in London, is a bit too much IMHO. That's why I'm contemplating. Nonetheless, I'll wait until February to see if the price decreases. If it goes around $1-1.5k extra, I'll cop it.

Thanks for your opinion though! :)

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[stuntcrew22]

Originally Posted by brandrea

I never understand comments like these concerning the size of the SD43

I suppose we all have our own interpretations, but to my eye this is not a "huge" watch in the least. One could argue that it wears similar to a Submariner which has squared off boxy looking lugs.

To each his own, but I've seen pictures of members here with slim wrists wearing it. IMO Rolex nailed the perfect size

I completely agree with you! ;)

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[stuntcrew22]

Originally Posted by harvey

The SD43 imho has been the best release this year. For those who are unsure about it, you have to try it on. You will not be disappointed.

I chose the SD over the deepsea.

On point! I can't agree with you more!

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[dr35mm]

No..

[stuntcrew22]

Originally Posted by yhzdude

after the discontinue the watch....you wish you paid the premium....
just messing with you.
tough choice.
that watch is so hard to find...if you really want it...buy it while you can..
i have seen some in the US with not too much premium on them.
good luck in your search. it s a cool piece.. i personally don't think there will be red lettering for very long..next year it won't be 50 th anniversary will it? Rolex might go ahead and produce their quota...and then might stop once they reach that number...that is what makes their watch special..very little changes...but changes.
Just my opinion.

I know, right? I was in the US for about three weeks in October. I wish I had paid for those who offered it a lower premium. I was so stupid to think that I would eventually find it at RRP here in Europe, it's virtually impossible! I don't know about the future of the red lettering, it's only a speculation and nobody really knows except for Rolex. Let's see what happens in the next few months. I'm hoping to purchase one at either RRP or minimal premium ;)

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[eltonbalch]

Do not let desire overcome common sense. Rolex is in the business of selling watches so there will be more SD 43 watches next year and once the additional supply emerges, prices will stabilize.

[stuntcrew22]

Originally Posted by watchwatcher

Thanks so much!

I feel your pain...but, I want to believe there will be more supply after the New Year. Surely, right?



Well said, Brian.

Yeah, I'm really hoping to cop one before the next Baselworld. Let's see!

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[NLYogi]

If it became a $100k collectors item in 25 years, yes

[stuntcrew22]

Originally Posted by MTx2

Fly to Memphis. According to a post from earlier today, they have one in stock and in the case.

Haha, I wish it's that simple. I don't think it's worth the risk

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[stuntcrew22]

Originally Posted by Godfather111

Friend of mine got it for $13,866 (GBP 10,400) a month before. Same seller offered it to me at $13,450 for the SD43, that's about GBP 10,085.

I'm crazy over this watch, but still said no. Seems like prices are going down, after the initial excitement had settled. I'm going to wait, see what happens in 2018.

I have to say though, I've seen this watch from across a room several times already, and I mistook it for a SubC every time.

I agree with you! I'm gonna wait and see what happens until February. Where did you find it for $13,450 btw? Is the seller based in Europe?

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[stuntcrew22]

Originally Posted by Ruud Van Driver

I'd need my head looking at if I was going to pay a premium of almost 25%. It would not enter my head.

DavidSW has a BNIB one for sale at US$13,375 and even with the crap UK£ to US$ exchange rate, it's still over £900 cheaper than that absurd premium priced piece. He also has a used one in 'excellent' condition for US$12,575 (GB£9,450).

If you want one THAT badly, give David a shout on the pre-loved one and get stung for a lot less.

New one: https://davidsw.com/product/rolex-12...se-basel-2017/

Used one: https://davidsw.com/product/rolex-12...anniversary-3/

But I'd need to consider VAT, which is a pain!

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[stuntcrew22]

Originally Posted by Devildog

Don't forget the VAT Paul.

DavidSW's used would work out at circa £11,500 on the wrist, and his BNIB would be circa £12,150

Makes the Chronext one at £10,970 a bargain by comparison.

If I was the OP and I could afford it, I'd seriously consider paying the premium now and getting on the lists. If one comes up, he could always flip it if they were still commanding a premoum or pass if the price had stabilised.

Here's a pic to help the OP's choice

Good point Devildog! Chronext's offer is not that bad! But I'm gonna sit out and see what happens in the next month or two. Worst case scenario, I'd get one from them.

Bloody hell! That's such a beautiful watch! I'm jealous

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[stuntcrew22]

Originally Posted by Number3

This one is over £1,150 cheaper than Chronext - brand new from a Swiss dealer;

https://www.chrono24.co.uk/rolex/sea...-id7228290.htm

I'm not entirely sure about Chrono24, I don't have the experience buying a watch there. I've been reading, and there's been some scary stories of people buying a watch via Chrono24. This watch will be the most expensive watch I'll own to date, so I'm a bit skeptical :/

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[stuntcrew22]

Originally Posted by 2ltdjorn

Have one at local AD for MSRP

Where is your local AD?

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[stuntcrew22]

Originally Posted by eltonbalch

Do not let desire overcome common sense. Rolex is in the business of selling watches so there will be more SD 43 watches next year and once the additional supply emerges, prices will stabilize.

I know, my desire is somewhat polluting my common sense atm

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[cayenne_po]

SD43 owner here. If you can buy the watch at srp, it won’t hurt that much if you buy it at a little above srp. If at present, the process of acquring is detrimantal to your health... go ahead and enjoy the watch. Life is short. YOLO.


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[stuntcrew22]

Originally Posted by cayenne_po

SD43 owner here. If you can buy the watch at srp, it won’t hurt that much if you buy it at a little above srp. If at present, the process of acquring is detrimantal to your health... go ahead and enjoy the watch. Life is short. YOLO.


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Hahaha, yeah true that! I’m gonna wait for another month or two max, then I’m gonna get it, regardless.


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[harvey]

I would like to change my answer. If LVc and BLNRs are now selling approximately £2500 over RRP as other threads state, then I would go for it.

[Xerxes77]

Congrats