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SemperFi · 12 December 2017, 02:48 AM

First off let me say that I love my watch collection and get an enormous thrill each morning when I strap on a superb timepiece.
Some of you may know that my collection has been acquired relatively recently. Life’s circumstances just did not permit me to spend so much money on myself at a younger age while other obligations took precedence.
Lately I’ve been kicking around the idea of gifting three of my watches to my three sons now instead of bequeathing them in my will. I’ll be 67 in 4 months, which is relatively young by today’s standards, and I don’t plan on leaving this world anytime soon, but you never know. After a heart attack in 2009 and triple bypass surgery I feel great, and younger than my years. But that health scare combined with family history has given me pause to rethink my original plan.
I think it would please me just as much by seeing those watches on my sons wrists than on my own but I don’t want to have second thoughts later on thinking, “You did all you could possibly do for your family while they were growing up. They’re all successful, with good jobs and lovely families. Enjoy the few possessions you have now while you can”. I hope that doesn’t sound selfish.
Maybe, I’m just overthinking this whole thing. I’m not leaning strongly in either direction right now and it might not happen. But it is something I’ve thought about. Frankly, there are still a few watches on my radar as possible future acquisitions.

offrdmania · 12 December 2017, 02:52 AM

That is a really nice heartfelt gesture Angelo. Do your sons have the same passion that you do for watches? That would be my only concern.

DJ TT 2002 · 12 December 2017, 02:57 AM

That’s very kind!!
I, for one, would prefer you keep them and keep posting on TRF.
Always enjoy your input, Angelo.

And 67 is a teenager in my book.

OpusXIII · 12 December 2017, 03:00 AM

I suggest keeping them and enjoying them. They'll get them in due course.

Star Ferry · 12 December 2017, 03:04 AM

I think it's a great idea. You could keep the Explorer and gift the other three. More satisfying to see things passed down than have it happen only after you're gone.

But to avoid bickering I'd try to keep the gifting relatively equal in value. Maybe by throwing in an additional item with the Tudor and Nomos.

GradyPhilpott · 12 December 2017, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SemperFi

“You did all you could possibly do for your family while they were growing up. They’re all successful, with good jobs and lovely families. Enjoy the few possessions you have now while you can”.

Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding!

This is the correct answer!

MonBK · 12 December 2017, 03:26 AM

Don't forget your fourth son............................me.

Had to get it in before Paul.

SemperFi · 12 December 2017, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by offrdmania

That is a really nice heartfelt gesture Angelo. Do your sons have the same passion that you do for watches? That would be my only concern.

They probably don’t share my overall passion for watches Matt. I guess partly because I didn’t have any while they were growing up.

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Originally Posted by DJ TT 2002

That’s very kind!!
I, for one, would prefer you keep them and keep posting on TRF.
Always enjoy your input, Angelo.

And 67 is a teenager in my book.

Either way, I’ll still be here.

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Originally Posted by OpusXIII

I suggest keeping them and enjoying them. They'll get them in due course.

I certainly do enjoy them.

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Originally Posted by Star Ferry

I think it's a great idea. You could keep the Explorer and gift the other three. More satisfying to see things passed down than have it happen only after you're gone.

But to avoid bickering I'd try to keep the gifting relatively equal in value. Maybe by throwing in an additional item with the Tudor and Nomos.

Unless one of them really loves the Tudor or Nomos. That would solve that.

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Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding!

This is the correct answer!

Thanks Grady. I always value your insight.

SemperFi · 12 December 2017, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MonBK

Don't forget your fourth son............................me.

Had to get it in before Paul.

I could never forget you Mon. Or Paul.

yannis · 12 December 2017, 03:40 AM

Hey Angelo i say keep them and enjoy them for a while. You are still young man.

Consider gifting them in 20 years time. If your children cannot appreciate them i shall be a candidate for being adopted

I know i have come second or third but i am more handsome than Mon and Paul

superdog · 12 December 2017, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by dj tt 2002

that’s very kind!!
I, for one, would prefer you keep them and keep posting on trf.
Always enjoy your input, angelo.

And 67 is a teenager in my book.

x2

MonBK · 12 December 2017, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by yannis

Hey Angelo i say keep them and enjoy them for a while. You are still young man.

Consider gifting them in 20 years time. If your children cannot appreciate them i shall be a candidate for being adopted

I know i have come second or third but i am more handsome than Mon and Paul

Prove it.

TheVTCGuy · 12 December 2017, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MonBK

Don't forget your fourth son............................me.

Had to get it in before Paul.

Darn!!!! Why didn’t I click on this quicker!?!?!?

SemperFi · 12 December 2017, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

Darn!!!! Why didn’t I click on this quicker!?!?!?

It’s probably an age thing.

beshannon · 12 December 2017, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SemperFi

Maybe, I’m just overthinking this whole thing. I’m not leaning strongly in either direction right now and it might not happen. But it is something I’ve thought about. Frankly, there are still a few watches on my radar as possible future acquisitions.

I am in a similar position, I have more than I can wear and really have no desire at the moment to buy anymore. I have been waiting for some special occasion to give my son my 14060M (he will get them all anyway) so he can enjoy it now. Not sure why i am waiting?

If you are not wearing them then seeing your kids enjoy them maybe more satisfying and a very nice gesture.

handsfull · 12 December 2017, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by SemperFi

...But that health scare combined with family history has given me pause to rethink my original plan.....
I think it would please me just as much by seeing those watches on my sons wrists than my own....... “You did all you could possibly do for your family while they were growing up. They’re all successful, with good jobs and lovely families. Enjoy the few possessions you have now while you can”. I hope that doesn’t sound selfish.

Maybe, I’m just overthinking this whole thing.

No, your just thinking...and thats a good thing. Im 43, but at 23 I nearly died in a car wreck. Health scares can be an awesome catalyst. Not here to produce an answer or solution to your question...but have a few more questions I ask myself whenever decisions are difficult for me.

What do I really VALUE?

If I could look back at my legacy after I die, HOW or WOULD that affect my decision?

TheVTCGuy · 12 December 2017, 06:13 AM

Angelo, I agree... it sounds to me like you have more then you can wear... doing a kind hearted act like giving it to your children will be an awsome and karma-inducing gesture...

Daddy

The Joker · 12 December 2017, 06:16 AM

Thought this was a Xmas giveaway thread, clicked on it really quick.

I think it's a great idea seeing your sons with your watches as long as you think they would appreciate them.

dysondiver · 12 December 2017, 06:34 AM

time enough to worry about it all in a while ,,,, stick with us for a while yet.

SemperFi · 12 December 2017, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by beshannon

I am in a similar position, I have more than I can wear and really have no desire at the moment to buy anymore. I have been waiting for some special occasion to give my son my 14060M (he will get them all anyway) so he can enjoy it now. Not sure why i am waiting?

If you are not wearing them then seeing your kids enjoy them maybe more satisfying and a very nice gesture.

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Originally Posted by handsfull

No, your just thinking...and thats a good thing. Im 43, but at 23 I nearly died in a car wreck. Health scares can be an awesome catalyst. Not here to produce an answer or solution to your question...but have a few more questions I ask myself whenever decisions are difficult for me.

What do I really VALUE?

If I could look back at my legacy after I die, HOW or WOULD that affect my decision?

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Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

Angelo, I agree... it sounds to me like you have more then you can wear... doing a kind hearted act like giving it to your children will be an awsome and karma-inducing gesture...

Daddy

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Originally Posted by The Joker

Thought this was a Xmas giveaway thread, clicked on it really quick.

I think it's a great idea seeing your sons with your watches as long as you think they would appreciate them.

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Originally Posted by dysondiver

time enough to worry about it all in a while ,,,, stick with us for a while yet.

Brian, J, Paul, Wes, & Tom
I appreciate your input. Thanks gentlemen.

droptopman · 12 December 2017, 07:32 AM

What a dilemma. Kudos for you for thinking about it. Tough call, but there is something great about gifting someone something really special. Gifted my Dad a Sub Date a few years ago and everytime I see him with it on, it just brings a big smile to my face. Initially, I was going to trade it in on another watch as I ended up with a no date and preferred it. I did not need both of them, so asked my wife what she thought about me giving it to dad. She was all for it. Honestly, it was one of the most rewarding things I have done. Seeing his face when he opened the box was priceless. I did it on Father's day. He was speechless. Big tough guy but this really got him. Only second time I have ever seen him show a tear

I would guess you would find similar joy from seeing your boys wearing your watches.

BNA/LION · 12 December 2017, 07:42 AM

If you are ready to gift them and you think they will wear/appreciate them... Then I say go for it! Getting to watch your Son's wear and enjoy watches that you have done the same with will feel good, warm your heart and leave a legacy that will out live your time on this planet.

RW16610 · 12 December 2017, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BNALION

If you are ready to gift them and you think they will wear/appreciate them... Then I say go for it! Getting to watch your Son's wear and enjoy watches that you have done the same with will feel good, warm your heart and leave a legacy that will out live your time on this planet.

I'm with Larry on this one. You've got plenty of time left to enjoy them BUT if this is what you're thinking or want, and you know they'll cherish them in use, why not? No wrong choice to be made here though and keep us updated

AzPaul · 12 December 2017, 09:18 AM

JMHO but I'm pretty sure the whole process of passing on your watches will mean a
lot more to all of you, now, rather than after you're gone.
Remembering good times is nice but sharing them is always better.

SemperFi · 12 December 2017, 09:54 AM

I haven’t mentioned my thoughts to either of my boys but maybe I should.
Part of my indecision stems from the fact that I didn’t own a nice watch while they were growing up, never spoke of my desire to own one, and I honestly don’t know if they even wear a watch as adults. I wouldn’t want to gift them now only to have them sit in dresser drawer. I would want them to be worn and then eventually passed down to my grandchildren.

AK797 · 12 December 2017, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SemperFi

I haven’t mentioned my thoughts to either of my boys but maybe I should.
Part of my indecision stems from the fact that I didn’t own a nice watch while they were growing up, never spoke of my desire to own one, and I honestly don’t know if they even wear a watch as adults. I wouldn’t want to gift them now only to have them sit in dresser drawer. I would want them to be worn and then eventually passed down to my grandchildren.

Have the talk and even if they don't want them now tell them how important they are to you and let them see them grace your wrist from time to time, so when they do inherit them, they will mean something to your kids and they will be treasured all the more.

SemperFi · 12 December 2017, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by AK797

Have the talk and even if they don't want them now tell them how important they are to you and let them see them grace your wrist from time to time, so when they do inherit them, they will mean something to your kids and they will be treasured all the more.

Excellent plan Neil. Thanks for your input.

cop414 · 12 December 2017, 10:38 AM

Ang, I think that this is a great idea, my only caveat would be letting them know that these watches are “living” things so to say. They need to be maintained and that doesn’t come cheap. Many non watch people think that an expensive timepiece will just run for decades because, well, they’re damn expensive! It would be a shame as you said that they would eventually just sit in a drawer because the owner can’t or won’t spend the money needed to keep it running.
Other than that I’d say that’s a very heartfelt gesture if you decide to do it.
Oh btw, I actually feel like a son to you,,,, ummmm, Dad,,,

j0oftheworld · 12 December 2017, 10:42 AM

My father has been giving all his kids their inheritance a little at a time recently so he can see them enjoying it.
With such a personal matter I'm sure doing what makes you happy is key.

SemperFi · 12 December 2017, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by cop414

Ang, I think that this is a great idea, my only caveat would be letting them know that these watches are “living” things so to say. They need to be maintained and that doesn’t come cheap. Many non watch people think that an expensive timepiece will just run for decades because, well, they’re damn expensive! It would be a shame as you said that they would eventually just sit in a drawer because the owner can’t or won’t spend the money needed to keep it running.
Other than that I’d say that’s a very heartfelt gesture if you decide to do it.
Oh btw, I actually feel like a son to you,,,, ummmm, Dad,,,

You’re right Tim. I don’t think they have the slightest idea nor ever thought of the care needed for these magnificent machines, which is understandable since they don’t own one. Heck, I didn’t either until I joined this forum.
They would need a Watch Ownership 101 class.

Even if they’re not into watches right now, I would hope that knowing how much they mean to me would make it mean more to them later on.

12 December 2017, 02:48 AM	#1
SemperFi "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Real Name: Angelo Location: Brooklyn, NY Watch: Rolex Submariner Posts: 42,164	I’m Thinking Of Gifting My Watches First off let me say that I love my watch collection and get an enormous thrill each morning when I strap on a superb timepiece. Some of you may know that my collection has been acquired relatively recently. Life’s circumstances just did not permit me to spend so much money on myself at a younger age while other obligations took precedence. Lately I’ve been kicking around the idea of gifting three of my watches to my three sons now instead of bequeathing them in my will. I’ll be 67 in 4 months, which is relatively young by today’s standards, and I don’t plan on leaving this world anytime soon, but you never know. After a heart attack in 2009 and triple bypass surgery I feel great, and younger than my years. But that health scare combined with family history has given me pause to rethink my original plan. I think it would please me just as much by seeing those watches on my sons wrists than on my own but I don’t want to have second thoughts later on thinking, “You did all you could possibly do for your family while they were growing up. They’re all successful, with good jobs and lovely families. Enjoy the few possessions you have now while you can”. I hope that doesn’t sound selfish. Maybe, I’m just overthinking this whole thing. I’m not leaning strongly in either direction right now and it might not happen. But it is something I’ve thought about. Frankly, there are still a few watches on my radar as possible future acquisitions. __________________ Rolex Submariner Omega Seamaster Aqua Terra Tudor Black Bay 58 Blue Tudor Ranger 79910 Nomos Club Datum 733 Nomos Metro 38 Stowa Flieger Classic 40 * Card carrying member of TRF's Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons *

12 December 2017, 02:52 AM	#2
offrdmania 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Wine Country, Ca Posts: 5,838	That is a really nice heartfelt gesture Angelo. Do your sons have the same passion that you do for watches? That would be my only concern. __________________ TRF Member 11738

12 December 2017, 03:00 AM	#4
OpusXIII "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: New Orleans Watch: Bluesy, Hulk, DJ Posts: 427	I suggest keeping them and enjoying them. They'll get them in due course. __________________ TT Submariner Bluesy, SS Submariner Hulk, TT DateJust 36mm w/ Super Jubilee bracelet.

12 December 2017, 03:40 AM	#10
yannis "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Yannis Location: Europe Watch: maniac Posts: 9,070	Hey Angelo i say keep them and enjoy them for a while. You are still young man. Consider gifting them in 20 years time. If your children cannot appreciate them i shall be a candidate for being adopted I know i have come second or third but i am more handsome than Mon and Paul __________________ Rolex Submariner 116610LV \| Tudor 79220N DSSD MEMBERS - OWNERS CLUB

12 December 2017, 07:32 AM	#21
droptopman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Real Name: Mark Location: Washington State Watch: SUBS and GMT's! Posts: 9,664	What a dilemma. Kudos for you for thinking about it. Tough call, but there is something great about gifting someone something really special. Gifted my Dad a Sub Date a few years ago and everytime I see him with it on, it just brings a big smile to my face. Initially, I was going to trade it in on another watch as I ended up with a no date and preferred it. I did not need both of them, so asked my wife what she thought about me giving it to dad. She was all for it. Honestly, it was one of the most rewarding things I have done. Seeing his face when he opened the box was priceless. I did it on Father's day. He was speechless. Big tough guy but this really got him. Only second time I have ever seen him show a tear I would guess you would find similar joy from seeing your boys wearing your watches. __________________ Judge Smails: Ty, what did you shoot today? Ty: Oh, Judge, I don't keep score. Judge Smails: Then how do you measure yourself with other golfers? Ty: By height.

12 December 2017, 02:57 AM	#3
DJ TT 2002 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Hollywood 1950 Posts: 4,058	That’s very kind!! I, for one, would prefer you keep them and keep posting on TRF. Always enjoy your input, Angelo. And 67 is a teenager in my book.

12 December 2017, 03:04 AM	#5
Star Ferry Banned Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: down by the river Posts: 4,926	I think it's a great idea. You could keep the Explorer and gift the other three. More satisfying to see things passed down than have it happen only after you're gone. But to avoid bickering I'd try to keep the gifting relatively equal in value. Maybe by throwing in an additional item with the Tudor and Nomos.

12 December 2017, 03:26 AM	#7
MonBK Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kingstown Posts: 58,281	Don't forget your fourth son............................me. Had to get it in before Paul.

12 December 2017, 06:13 AM	#17
TheVTCGuy Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Paul Location: San Diego Watch: 126619LB Posts: 21,540	Angelo, I agree... it sounds to me like you have more then you can wear... doing a kind hearted act like giving it to your children will be an awsome and karma-inducing gesture... Daddy

12 December 2017, 06:16 AM	#18
The Joker "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Gotham Posts: 9,634	Thought this was a Xmas giveaway thread, clicked on it really quick. I think it's a great idea seeing your sons with your watches as long as you think they would appreciate them.

12 December 2017, 06:34 AM	#19
dysondiver "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: tom Location: northern ireland Watch: my fins Posts: 10,063	time enough to worry about it all in a while ,,,, stick with us for a while yet.

12 December 2017, 07:42 AM	#22
BNA/LION 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Larry Location: San Diego, CA Watch: ROLEX Posts: 25,193	I’m Thinking Of Gifting My Watches If you are ready to gift them and you think they will wear/appreciate them... Then I say go for it! Getting to watch your Son's wear and enjoy watches that you have done the same with will feel good, warm your heart and leave a legacy that will out live your time on this planet. __________________ ✦ 28238 President DD 18K/YG ✦ 16610LN SS Sub ✦ 16613 18K/SS Serti ✦ 16550 Exp II Non-Rail Cream Dial ✦ Daytona C 116500 ✦ 126710 BLRO GMT-Master II ✦ NEXT-->? ⛳ Hole In One! 10/3/19 DMCC 5th hole, par 3, 168 yards w/ 4-Iron.

12 December 2017, 09:18 AM	#24
AzPaul 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Paul Location: Tucson, Az Watch: Rolex 1501 Posts: 13,194	JMHO but I'm pretty sure the whole process of passing on your watches will mean a lot more to all of you, now, rather than after you're gone. Remembering good times is nice but sharing them is always better. __________________ Ain't much of a crime, whacking a surly bartender

12 December 2017, 09:54 AM	#25
SemperFi "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Real Name: Angelo Location: Brooklyn, NY Watch: Rolex Submariner Posts: 42,164	I haven’t mentioned my thoughts to either of my boys but maybe I should. Part of my indecision stems from the fact that I didn’t own a nice watch while they were growing up, never spoke of my desire to own one, and I honestly don’t know if they even wear a watch as adults. I wouldn’t want to gift them now only to have them sit in dresser drawer. I would want them to be worn and then eventually passed down to my grandchildren. __________________ Rolex Submariner Omega Seamaster Aqua Terra Tudor Black Bay 58 Blue Tudor Ranger 79910 Nomos Club Datum 733 Nomos Metro 38 Stowa Flieger Classic 40 * Card carrying member of TRF's Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons *

12 December 2017, 10:38 AM	#28
cop414 TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Tim Location: Pennsylvania Watch: 14060M Posts: 71,824	Ang, I think that this is a great idea, my only caveat would be letting them know that these watches are “living” things so to say. They need to be maintained and that doesn’t come cheap. Many non watch people think that an expensive timepiece will just run for decades because, well, they’re damn expensive! It would be a shame as you said that they would eventually just sit in a drawer because the owner can’t or won’t spend the money needed to keep it running. Other than that I’d say that’s a very heartfelt gesture if you decide to do it. Oh btw, I actually feel like a son to you,,,, ummmm, Dad,,, __________________ Rolex Submariner 14060M Omega Seamaster 2254.50 DOXA Professional 1200T Card carrying member of TRF's Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons TRF's "After Dark" Bar & NightClub Patron P Club Member #17 2 FA ENABLED

12 December 2017, 10:42 AM	#29
j0oftheworld "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Real Name: Jason Location: Phoenix, AZ Watch: 14060M Posts: 269	My father has been giving all his kids their inheritance a little at a time recently so he can see them enjoying it. With such a personal matter I'm sure doing what makes you happy is key. __________________ Mr Bond, I suppose you wouldn't care to... um... raise the limit? I have no objections. Looks like you're out to get me. It's an idea, at that.

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