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Old 13 December 2017, 03:39 AM   #1
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To buy or not to buy.. rolex 16710 pepsi with 3186 movement

I am new here and new to the watch world. I have been offered a rolex 167100 pepsi with 3186 movement (serial number m3). The seller said he had some polishing done to the watch, which make me question whether i should buy the watch or not.

Or should i wait for an unpolished with a z9 serial.

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Old 13 December 2017, 03:47 AM   #2
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Personally I wouldn’t sweat the polishing. The watch looks spectacular as is. Some folks value patina very highly, but I like new looking. I’ll develop my own patina and then it will mean something to me.

The 3186 movement is highly coveted. For collector value it’s a great feature. Depending on price, I’d buy it.

Now, if this is going to be your daily wear and you plan to keep it for many years (like me with my Pepsi), the Z-model with 3185 movement might save you some money and will function just like the 3186 movement.
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Old 13 December 2017, 03:48 AM   #3
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i plan to keep it.... and will not be my daily wear
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Old 17 December 2017, 01:42 PM   #4
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i plan to keep it.... and will not be my daily wear


then go 3186 if budget allows!


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Old 17 December 2017, 02:01 PM   #5
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I’m all in for a Pepsi 3186! I’m not a polishing expert but it seems a bit over polished to me...I’m sure others who will know


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Old 17 December 2017, 02:32 PM   #6
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Bright lights in the photos make it hard to properly eval.

Have you seen it in the metal?

And forget the serials. Do you actually like the bloody watch and want to wear it?
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Old 17 December 2017, 04:26 PM   #7
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Depends on price, m serials w/ 3186 have skyrocketed in the last 12 months. The polish looks good to me. M serials should have some bevels which that does and the crown guards look correct.
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Old 17 December 2017, 04:27 PM   #8
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I would go for it!
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Old 17 December 2017, 04:41 PM   #9
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GET IT. THEN DONT LOOK BACK. Beautiful GMTII there.
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Old 17 December 2017, 04:57 PM   #10
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then go 3186 if budget allows!


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M3.. & Z9..?
Both should have the 3186 and I would choose unpolished every time.

Can you reveal the prices?
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Old 17 December 2017, 05:44 PM   #11
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pls buy it.... you can’t even see 1 selling in the for sale section...
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Old 17 December 2017, 05:47 PM   #12
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I would take it. He debate over polishing is overrated in my opinion. That is a beautiful watch, and it will not be any easier getting good examples going forward
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Old 17 December 2017, 05:54 PM   #13
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Depends on the price. Have you done the simple crown test to verify it is actually a 3186 movement?
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Old 17 December 2017, 06:29 PM   #14
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These will continue to show up <$12 go for it, buy another unpolished one if you then discover one elsewhere and sell this one.
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Old 17 December 2017, 06:31 PM   #15
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Can't answer the question without knowing the price. To me, the late 3185s are the better value.
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Old 17 December 2017, 08:30 PM   #16
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Old 17 December 2017, 08:39 PM   #17
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Old 17 December 2017, 08:53 PM   #18
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Is the Z9 a 3186?

We are not getting anywhere on this thread.
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Old 17 December 2017, 09:00 PM   #19
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Can't answer the question without knowing the price. To me, the late 3185s are the better value.
Agree.
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Old 17 December 2017, 09:16 PM   #20
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Can't answer the question without knowing the price. To me, the late 3185s are the better value.
Better value than what Mike?

The op hasn't been back with a price since the original post?

In any event if the Z9 is a 3185 it's probably more rare than an M3 3186.
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Old 18 December 2017, 04:59 AM   #21
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Better value than what Mike?

The op hasn't been back with a price since the original post?

In any event if the Z9 is a 3185 it's probably more rare than an M3 3186.
Better value than the 3186/16710's, in general. Based on the prices they have been trading for.....I personally don't think the premium is worth it. I'm assuming both of the examples the OP is looking at have 3186, but I don't see how anyone can advise him to buy a watch without knowing the price....it's kind of an important variable.
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Old 31 December 2017, 11:37 AM   #22
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Been quite a while since I’ve been here.
I have the very late GMT-ll M serials with 3186 movement. Coke bezel.

Wow!
They have really gone up in price!
I’ve been wearing everyday and doing everything from flying to mowing with it on.
Think I need to stop wearing it so much.
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Old 26 June 2018, 02:05 AM   #23
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Sorry to revive this old thread, I wonder does 16710 Z7x serial carries the 3186 movement?
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Old 26 June 2018, 03:04 AM   #24
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go for it! don’t sweat on the polishing, it is like buying a second hand car where the dents and scratches have already been fixed before selling it to you.
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Old 26 June 2018, 04:05 AM   #25
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Sorry to revive this old thread, I wonder does 16710 Z7x serial carries the 3186 movement?
There is no way to know without checking.

Rolex did not release their watches sequentially so there is a mix.
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