Just realized I made a complete a** of myself at a dealers.

[Nanasaka90]

Went to look at a vintage submariner 5513 at an AD an hour away, I turned the bezel and noticed it was not only smooth but bi-directional. Being the idiot I am, I proceeded to have a polite but spirited conversation with the owner about this “issue”.

Being a gentleman he gave up and said he’d have it looked at. Just doing some general enthusiast reading this morning, I realized it’s pretty much how they were made.

Nothing like a good reminder to stay humble and quit acting like a know-it-all. Have a good week guys!


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[DoctorA]

Learning never stops
It would’ve been a good opportunity for the owner to let you know how vintage was different

[Pw92676]

I would call the guy back and tell him you looked it up. Shows a lot about your interest level but also your character. You may end up winning him over.

[Deepseadog]

Originally Posted by Pw92676

I would call the guy back and tell him you looked it up. Shows a lot about your interest level but also your character. You may end up winning him over.

So glad I went grey. The thought of having to win someone over to purchase a watch does not appeal to me.

[Pw92676]

Originally Posted by Deepseadog

So glad I went grey. The thought of having to win someone over to purchase a watch does not appeal to me.

Huh? Maybe I’m misunderstanding the direction you took this. Winning someone over doesn’t mean kissing butt. It means leaving with a good reputation and image or at least reverse the negative image as OP thinks he created for himself.
Has nothing to do with AD or Grey. Also, I think the vintage route is a quite a bit different game than simply AD vs Grey for a modern in-production watch.

[JebM]

I’ve done something kind of like this before. Called back to let him know I’d sorted myself out.


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[Nanasaka90]

Originally Posted by Pw92676

I would call the guy back and tell him you looked it up. Shows a lot about your interest level but also your character. You may end up winning him over.

Exactly what I was thinking, I’ll do that.


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[brandrea]

To be fair, it sounds like he didn’t know either

[GONZO2LR]

i would think as an AD, he would of know that about the bezel?...wait????...He might not of been Rolex savvy!...wow...i answered my own remark...HA...you guys are making me smarter every time i got on here!

[Caesium Al]

How much was the 5513? Did it look original? Was it an early model? Nice to know ADs have some of these occasionally. Thank you for the post!

[rockmastermike]

Originally Posted by Pw92676

I would call the guy back and tell him you looked it up. Shows a lot about your interest level but also your character. You may end up winning him over.

Word

[77T]

Originally Posted by GONZO2LR

i would think as an AD, he would of know that about the bezel?...wait????...He might not of been Rolex savvy!...wow...i answered my own remark...HA...you guys are making me smarter every time i got on here!

Also, some ADs don’t routinely get rare birds in the door as a trade - and the unique variations (like when a click spring was introduced) are not readily understood.


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[envuks]

Originally Posted by Pw92676

I would call the guy back and tell him you looked it up. Shows a lot about your interest level but also your character. You may end up winning him over.

Good life advice here. Proactively reaching out to let him know you learned you were wrong and didn’t want him to waste his time investigating it is a good move. Regardless of if you go for this specific watch or not, it shows good character


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[Oyster Sauce]

Originally Posted by envuks

good life advice here. Proactively reaching out to let him know you learned you were wrong and didn’t want him to waste his time investigating it is a good move. Regardless of if you go for this specific watch or not, it shows good character


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+1

[TimeAZ]

If it makes you feel better I always make an a** of myself when I visit an AD. Every time I go and inquire about a SS model or whenever I walk-through the storefront, peering into the largely-vacant display case, with obvious disappointment about the public offerings while knowing that the models that interest me will never be on display and only stored in the back.

[garyk]

Originally Posted by Nanasaka90

Went to look at a vintage submariner 5513 at an AD an hour away, I turned the bezel and noticed it was not only smooth but bi-directional. Being the idiot I am, I proceeded to have a polite but spirited conversation with the owner about this “issue”.

Being a gentleman he gave up and said he’d have it looked at. Just doing some general enthusiast reading this morning, I realized it’s pretty much how they were made.

Nothing like a good reminder to stay humble and quit acting like a know-it-all. Have a good week guys!


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I call BS here, the customer is always right LOL...

[JSolution]

Originally Posted by brandrea

To be fair, it sounds like he didn’t know either

That’s what I thought.

[Mendota]

He knew. He's not a dolt. He was just being polite and didn't want to argue with you or embarrass you over a bezel that you clearly didn't know about. He knew you were leaving, so he politely placated you rather than spend the next XYZ minutes educating you on how you were wrong. Classy of him to do that.

It takes a lot more confidence to politely agree with a customer who is clearly wrong rather than get into it with them. And to what end? It's not like you were going to buy it and he knew that.

I'd call, like some others have said, and admit you were wrong. It might spark more conversation and he might think of you the next time he gets something on your wish list.

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[Rori]

Originally Posted by Nanasaka90

Went to look at a vintage submariner 5513 at an AD an hour away, I turned the bezel and noticed it was not only smooth but bi-directional. Being the idiot I am, I proceeded to have a polite but spirited conversation with the owner about this “issue”.

Being a gentleman he gave up and said he’d have it looked at. Just doing some general enthusiast reading this morning, I realized it’s pretty much how they were made.

Nothing like a good reminder to stay humble and quit acting like a know-it-all. Have a good week guys!


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Well, I would have made the same comment because this is the first time I read abou the bezel being bidirectional on the vintage subs!
I learnt something new thanks to you.


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[Mr. K]

Originally Posted by Rori

Well, I would have made the same comment because this is the first time I read abou the bezel being bidirectional on the vintage subs!
I learnt something new thanks to you.


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I did not know this either. Seems dangerous if you actually use it to dive with. Would rather come up too early than run out of air.

[Rori]

Originally Posted by Mr. K

I did not know this either. Seems dangerous if you actually use it to dive with. Would rather come up too early than run out of air.

Exactly my thoughts.


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