Waiting list for gold models

[rd25]

Hi everyone,

I understand that there is obviously a waiting list for steel sports models. However, I was curious as to what the wait time / likelihood of finding is for gold models for various sports watches, for instance a rose gold GMT2. Has this been discussed anywhere? I’m sorry if I didn’t see it.

Thanks in advance!

[JayHantz]

Right now the whole market is crazy and it depends on where you are for an AD. Larger ADs have a substantial waiting list for even the PM models. I would venture to say on average it would be a couple months, but less than a year depending on your AD and relationship.

[brandrea]

Welcome to the forum

Jonathan said it best as above ^^^

[Mystro]

You have a much better time seeing a PM model in under 1 year waiting.

[Cigars&Watches]

Originally Posted by rd25

Hi everyone,

I understand that there is obviously a waiting list for steel sports models. However, I was curious as to what the wait time / likelihood of finding is for gold models for various sports watches, for instance a rose gold GMT2. Has this been discussed anywhere? I’m sorry if I didn’t see it.

Thanks in advance!

I would say the wait for that one right now is insane if you look at secondary prices. Prices have skyrocketed for the full rose gold CHNR. In Canada you can buy one for 50k including taxes at MSRP. Right now on Chrono they are asking in the low 70k's.. (I know prices are inflated but still..)

Messed thing my AD offered me one about a year ago and I turned it down... what are you going to do...

[tmoy810]

To be honest. It comes down to luck. I expressed interest in a DD36 for the wife and ended up receiving a call for a SS sports model because there has been a shortage of PM peices at my particular AD.

ADs typically get more SS than precious metal, but I think with the crazy prices of some stainless models people are starting to gravitate towards precious metal.

[SubMillennial]

what about DD40s? If you're only interested in maybe three different configurations

[Henrimontgomery]

See it form a math perspective.

Back then, 9k was within purchase range of 20% of your population.
Meanwhile, 40k was reserved for 2%.

Now, with the crazy markets, crypto, Covid, flipping, etc. You have 60% that can buy at 9k and 10% that can buy at 40k. It means much more demand, for watches that are supply constrained. Metal is hard to get, steel is rarer and gold more valuable.

[TIII]

PM models will be easier to order than SS. Wait time? Who knows, depends on the hype demand for the reference. Just a few years ago PM models sat in cases, now some models are more expensive than a brand new Porsche on the grey market. It may be financially smarter to put in an order with an AD.


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[Robf52]

Originally Posted by JayHantz

Right now the whole market is crazy and it depends on where you are for an AD. Larger ADs have a substantial waiting list for even the PM models. I would venture to say on average it would be a couple months, but less than a year depending on your AD and relationship.

This.

[rd25]

This was very helpful, thanks everyone!

[Initial_J]

So if the WL is a year or less, which is very reasonable imo, does that then mean that after making the purchase you can get on an actual list for a SS sports model?

[Beto737]

Depending on your market area, everything has a waiting period. It’s just a question of whether it’s days, weeks, months, or years.

My wife’s TT DJ36 palm motif took six months. Before, they almost had to throw in a discount to sell these two tone Datejust pieces!

[nollie85]

Every single damn model has wait period now.

I'm been trying to get a RG GMT or a full gold Bluesy and ADs are qouting me 18+ months or some dont even want to know me. They said they have 100s of ppl waiting for each model and full Gold is even more popular than SS now.

[bboenker]

I can’t really even get somebody to say that one day they will get me a white gold GMT. One AD salesman has told me he’s never even seen one and the other has told me it could be 7-8 years.

[sechsgang]

FYI gold is harder to get now than steel by a long shot. I had to wait a year and a half for my rose gold daytona with chocolate dial that I just had delivered. They get steel pieces relatively frequently but obv the line is long. At this point, both you're likely looking at years unless its a small ad in an area people don't do a lot of gold from, then maybe you'd have a shot.

[VogelPhoenix]

Originally Posted by Henrimontgomery

See it form a math perspective.

Back then, 9k was within purchase range of 20% of your population.
Meanwhile, 40k was reserved for 2%.

Now, with the crazy markets, crypto, Covid, flipping, etc. You have 60% that can buy at 9k and 10% that can buy at 40k. It means much more demand, for watches that are supply constrained. Metal is hard to get, steel is rarer and gold more valuable.

No offense, there may be something to the general idea, but the numbers/details are pretty detached from reality:
- less than 60% of americans report owning any stocks
- CPI-adjusted median household income, top-10% threshold and top-1% declined from 2020 to 2021 (tax years 2019 - 2020, the latest available)
- up until Oct, 2021 YTD steel production was up compared to 2020
- gold is cheaper now than it was at the beginning of the pandemic

https://news.gallup.com/poll/266807/...wns-stock.aspx
https://dqydj.com/household-income-p...le-calculator/
https://www.worldsteel.org

[MannySDG]

Last Summer, 4 AD's I visited had the full RG Rootbeer in stock, when I picked up my first DJ41, my AD had one, and 5 months later, when I got my TT Rootbeer, they had another solid gold one. 3 other AD's also had one in stock, needless to say, those days are over.

My buddy sold his Tag to a grey dealer 3 weeks ago, they saw my Rootbeer and asked if I wanted to sell it, I declined. 2 weeks later they had one listed on their site for 29k, it's gone now....

Crazy times, but nothing as crazy as dealers listing OP 41 Tiffany blue on Chrono 24 for 110000 dollars!

[Bladeshot]

I am waiting on a 126618LB. AD says they only get one a year. Maybe got 2 this year but 1 next year. Now, I was able to get a WG Daytona in year 2020 - early COVID - with a 90 day wait. Hard to know what will happen with supply chain issues and labor shortages = work stoppages.

[nollie85]

Originally Posted by Bladeshot

I am waiting on a 126618LB. AD says they only get one a year. Maybe got 2 this year but 1 next year. Now, I was able to get a WG Daytona in year 2020 - early COVID - with a 90 day wait. Hard to know what will happen with supply chain issues and labor shortages = work stoppages.

This is what I am waiting for. ALL the ADs I've been talking to and its getting close to 10 now have all told me its minimum 18 months and even then they cant guarantee it. Most are saying its impossible at the moment with 100s already in their wait list. It will be like 10+ years if you were to be added at the end of that list.

They are all saying gold pieces is what everyone is after now so the wait times have completely blown out.

[indianmachine]

I got the RG GMT 126715 after 7 months of waiting. I have some purchase history with my AD, but nothing crazy and no jewelry - all either Rolex or Tudor watches.

[TswaneNguni]

WG Sub ..scarce

[Henrimontgomery]

Originally Posted by VogelPhoenix

No offense, there may be something to the general idea, but the numbers/details are pretty detached from reality:
- less than 60% of americans report owning any stocks
- CPI-adjusted median household income, top-10% threshold and top-1% declined from 2020 to 2021 (tax years 2019 - 2020, the latest available)
- up until Oct, 2021 YTD steel production was up compared to 2020
- gold is cheaper now than it was at the beginning of the pandemic

https://news.gallup.com/poll/266807/...wns-stock.aspx
https://dqydj.com/household-income-p...le-calculator/
https://www.worldsteel.org

Who said anything about America ? I’m not from there and so were my numbers.

When I say steel and gold, I mention the watch types.

[Bruse Wayne]

Over a year here waiting for SS/YG Sky Dweller

[Flint]

I waited 3 months for my All gold Sub 126618lb , although I had previous buying history with WOS

[GoingPlaces]

DD40 wait is one year plus and growing.

[SubMillennial]

Originally Posted by GoingPlaces

DD40 wait is one year plus and growing.

YG easier than WG and RG to acquire though, surely?

[GoingPlaces]

Originally Posted by SubMillennial

YG easier than WG and RG to acquire though, surely?

I asked about a YG White roman (I have one but was curious) and was told one year. I'm sure it's market specific.

[bob sims]

Originally Posted by GoingPlaces

DD40 wait is one year plus and growing.

Well I got told 4-8 months for YG common dial when I put my order in 11/1. The way he said it was not a hint that it would be more but who knows.
Same watch is now selling at DSW for 47K! Up about 4k since I put my order in. I am willing to wait at least a year as I have 2 other great Rolex to alternate.

[GoingPlaces]

Originally Posted by bob sims

Well I got told 4-8 months for YG common dial when I put my order in 11/1. The way he said it was not a hint that it would be more but who knows.
Same watch is now selling at DSW for 47K! Up about 4k since I put my order in. I am willing to wait at least a year as I have 2 other great Rolex to alternate.

You might get it sooner, never know. Largely depends on AD size and volume I suspect.

Congrats in advance on a great decision. I'm afraid once you start wearing the DD you won't wear your other pieces, it's next level! PM is addictive.