supra

[timedate]

i wanted to see one today in the flesh, so to speak,

the local showroom had two earlier in the week, i went there today and both were sold,

i got a feeling toyota have nailed it with this new supra,

looking at their other stock, the overall look of all the toyota's are better than other makes in my view, the new corolla, rav 4, the cruiser, the gt 86 and the c-hr and camry,

So not only do you get the best reliability as always, you are getting even better looking cars.

Clever people at toyota.

[123Blueface]

Take a look at the Z4.
Same car.

[swils8610]

Yup-Z4


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[timedate]

just looking at the images of the two, there is enough difference there in my view for it to be a different car, i know all about the bmw engine and all that,

completely different front and rear to the z4, i really like it.

[Zakalwe]

For Cayman money it really has to be some car to not buy a Cayman.

[timedate]

Originally Posted by Zakalwe

For Cayman money it really has to be some car to not buy a Cayman.

i would go for the supra all day long if i had the money

[Zakalwe]

Originally Posted by timedate

i would go for the supra all day long if i had the money

Appropriately for car chat on a Rolex forum, you’d have to get on a waiting list, the thing’s sold out until next year

[timedate]

Originally Posted by Zakalwe

Appropriately for car chat on a Rolex forum, you’d have to get on a waiting list, the thing’s sold out until next year

yes, its got a little something about it, in my view, toyota seem to be investing big time across the range,

there is talk of an electric mr2 aswell in the pipeline.

[superdog]

I like it. A lot.

But no contest between this and cayman.

[Rock]

In Australia a Porsche Cayman 718 Manual starts at RRP $131K.
Toyota Australia RRP for the Supra GT is around $90K (GTS $110K) so there's a bit of a difference here.
Some folks have a strong preference for either European cars or Japanese cars, regardless of the specifics.
In that price range, my choice would be based purely upon how I felt in the driver's seat. Of course, the Supra is Automatic tranny only at this time, which would make the decision easy for me.

[nick c]

BMW built that Supra. Everything like Z4

[Rock]

I don't get the obsession with the Supra having commonalities with the Z4. Who cares?

[BrazenC5]

Originally Posted by Rock

I don't get the obsession with the Supra having commonalities with the Z4. Who cares?

I think the replies are a direct response from the OP that gave an impression (at least to me) that Toyota was the "driver" of design and tech (mentioning the Toyota reliability).

Not that there is a general obsession that it's a Z4 underneath with actual BMW parts.

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[Mr.Rolex1]

meh

[GB-man]

Patiently awaiting the LC300. The new Camry looks really nice but I’m always a fan of those for some reason. The Supra I can’t really say anything good about but I’ll wait to see one on the ground before trashing it.

[timedate]

i am fully aware of the bmw connection, in a strange way, its a good collaboration, bmw do make great engines aswell you know,

i am also aware of the gt86 subaru collaboration,

lotus use toyota engines, its known as a lotus.

i dont know why people keep banging on about z4, look at two pictures together, as i said there are enough differences for it to be two different cars.

[timedate]

Originally Posted by GB-man

Patiently awaiting the LC300. The new Camry looks really nice but I’m always a fan of those for some reason. The Supra I can’t really say anything good about but I’ll wait to see one on the ground before trashing it.

love that camry, its laying down a challenge to bmw and audi

[Rock]

Chris, my point is that some folks (who are maybe a bit status obsessed) cannot get over the BMW connection. BMW is a 'status symbol' and Toyota is not. This makes it hard for some folks to assess a product on it's merits rather than on how it is going to make them feel as an 'an owner'.

[timedate]

Originally Posted by Rock

Chris, my point is that some folks (who are maybe a bit status obsessed) cannot get over the BMW connection. BMW is a 'status symbol' and Toyota is not. This makes it hard for some folks to assess a product on it's merits rather than on how it is going to make them feel as an 'an owner'.

i would feel marvellous owning a supra, i would also feel great owning a z4

[SearChart]

I would rather have a previous gen Supra and a massive turbo.

[1William]

I think Toyota missed the mark with the new Supra. Have a look at the online reviews from credible sources and you will see what I mean. Almost everything is an excuse about how most things are slightly off. I thought that the new Supra would be a Toyota version of the Lexus LC500. Slightly less money but more fun as Toyota can do a lot of thing Lexus will not. But not so lucky. I think that the new Supra is only a Supra in name. I don't see the connection from the previous generations.

[superdog]

Originally Posted by Rock

I don't get the obsession with the Supra having commonalities with the Z4. Who cares?

I wonder too.

[superdog]

Originally Posted by timedate

love that camry, its laying down a challenge to bmw and audi

It really does look fantastic.

So does the new maxima.

[timedate]

Originally Posted by 1William

I think Toyota missed the mark with the new Supra. Have a look at the online reviews from credible sources and you will see what I mean. Almost everything is an excuse about how most things are slightly off. I thought that the new Supra would be a Toyota version of the Lexus LC500. Slightly less money but more fun as Toyota can do a lot of thing Lexus will not. But not so lucky. I think that the new Supra is only a Supra in name. I don't see the connection from the previous generations.

there is no connection between an 80s or 90s supra, and this one, its just the name, but everybody knows that, the only connection is it's partly made by the same people of that era,

the mini, the beetle, the cinquecento, the 911 are nothing like their previous models.

Who cares? it's an all new car.

[superdog]

[QUOTE=timedate;9945513]there is no connection between an 80s or 90s supra, and this one, its just the name, but everybody knows that, the only connection is it's partly made by the same people of that era,

the mini, the beetle, the cinquecento, the 911 are nothing like their previous models.

Who cares? it's an all new car.[. QUOTE]

Ummmm. The 911 is extreme similar to previous models.

The models you state all had a hiatus and came back. The 911 has had a long slow crawl of evolution. I still can’t tell many apart.

They move about as slow, and are as ubiquitous as the submariner.

I do mostly agree with your point tho. I don’t much care one way or the other, as long as I like the car.

[GoingPlaces]

Actually Seth, hate to disagree but the only consistencies in the 911 -correct me if I'm wrong - is the shell. Everything else; turbos added, electronic steering, water cooled, and of course tech all different. Oh, they did keep the engine in the same place. I do however appreciate the Porsche lineage though, 911 is arguably the best and one of the most important cars made.

[Rashid.bk]

Originally Posted by 123Blueface

Take a look at the Z4.
Same car.

But the Supra is faster and cheaper.

[superdog]

Originally Posted by GoingPlaces

Actually Seth, hate to disagree but the only consistencies in the 911 -correct me if I'm wrong - is the shell. Everything else; turbos added, electronic steering, water cooled, and of course tech all different. Oh, they did keep the engine in the same place. I do however appreciate the Porsche lineage though, 911 is arguably the best and one of the most important cars made.

No sir. You are definitely correct. Lots of internal changes. But imho so slowly and over time that it is hard to compare with cars that were reintroduced after a multi year hiatus.

[timedate]

superdog, an old aircooled 911 is nothing like the current 991 or 992,

a current 911 is one and a times half the size, and nothing like its heritage,

but it doesnt matter, like it doesnt matter about the supra being unrecognisable to the fast and furious one.


time will tell if it will be a legend.

[Fat_ninja]

Meh meh. That’s coming from someone that had a mkiv