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Old 24 October 2022, 11:59 AM   #181
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Hmmm I don't think so they have the watch. Just stock photos what I see. I see 2 posting, one is US and another in UAE. Stock photos.
MODA one is in hand, has actual pic. So yes, 100% an immediate flip.
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Old 24 October 2022, 12:12 PM   #182
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MODA one is in hand, has actual pic. So yes, 100% an immediate flip.
Whats MODA? If you don't mind
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Old 24 October 2022, 12:50 PM   #183
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Old 24 October 2022, 08:17 PM   #184
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4-5x MSRP immediate flips are 'reasonable'? That's so extreme for any type of good.

Honestly though my opinion was more in regard to the fact that these were allocated to somebody who had 100% flipping intentions from the get go. There's no change of mind, etc, it was purely a financial decision, whether from VIP status or in cahoots with the AD.

but alas, is what it is right now.
Considering that the grey price for a Green dial 5711 is $350K and for a Plain Jane Noir dial 5711 (NIB) is $150K, yes, I'd say $350K for a gold 5712 is reasonable.
As one of the brilliant economist types that we have on this forum stated in an older post, since almost no one can buy a Nautilus at retail, the retail price is irrelevant, the Grey price becomes the market price and a Nautilus becomes, essentially, a fungible commodity.
There are, likely, several hundred thousand people trying to figure out how to get any Patek Nautilus at retail, hence, the almost daily posts asking for help buying a Nautilus, Aquanaut, any Journe, any Royal Oak, a lot of Rolexes, a Lange Odysseus, a Vacheron Overseas (who ever thought we'd see that day?) etc.
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Old 28 October 2022, 09:58 PM   #185
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The 5712 in steel no longer shows on the site as having the new clasp. I believe they had briefly updated it to say the new clasp system. Leads me to think it will be discontinued soon.
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Old 28 October 2022, 10:48 PM   #186
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The 5712 in steel no longer shows on the site as having the new clasp. I believe they had briefly updated it to say the new clasp system. Leads me to think it will be discontinued soon.
I noticed the clasp was upgraded but now removed
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Old 28 October 2022, 11:03 PM   #187
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The 5712 in steel no longer shows on the site as having the new clasp. I believe they had briefly updated it to say the new clasp system. Leads me to think it will be discontinued soon.
Back on with the non adjusted bracelet
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Old 29 October 2022, 03:38 AM   #188
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But in the photos was with the new clasp or in the description?
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Old 29 October 2022, 03:40 AM   #189
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If it is seen in the photos it means that it exists and therefore it will not be discontinued ;)
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Old 29 October 2022, 03:53 AM   #190
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But in the photos was with the new clasp or in the description?
Description.
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Old 29 October 2022, 04:26 AM   #191
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There has often been mistakes in the descriptions. I guess they corrected another mistake they had in the caption. I'm not sure they would have introduced the new expanding mechanism in the 5712/1A.
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Old 29 October 2022, 04:50 AM   #192
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Don't have sense for me change the clasp now after 17 years...it's more simple to discontinued the model and put the new clasp in the new one imho ;)
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Old 2 November 2022, 11:59 AM   #193
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Took some comparative photos before I send my 5711 to PSC for service. The 5811 is obviously 1mm bigger but it rests higher on the table due to the more rigid bracelet hence giving a much bigger impression in the photo. Please disregard the size difference you see here.

58 vs 57
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5811 vs 5726
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Old 3 November 2022, 02:09 AM   #194
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Nice...I really like the new blue
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Old 3 November 2022, 02:55 AM   #195
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Nice...I really like the new blue

Me, too. The old blue/gray was more subtle, but this new royal blue seems more vibrant. It’s a good look with the WG.
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Old 5 November 2022, 06:45 PM   #196
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Finally got a chance to see the new releases in person. My favorite are the 5935A and the 5712 1/R. Personally I like the previous 5711 dial over the new one. The 5811 is just blue, while the 5711 had different shades of colors

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CkYMf...d=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Ckad0...d=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Ckivy...d=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
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Old 5 November 2022, 07:51 PM   #197
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I see frank Lampard sporting the new world timer on the news yesterday. Very pretty watch
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Old 6 November 2022, 10:21 PM   #198
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Amazing photos. My favourite blue is still the 5726a. All are beautiful though.
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Old 23 November 2022, 08:06 PM   #199
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There is a batch of 5712/1R to be released to the AD next week. Good luck to those who have applied for one, hope you get it
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Old 24 November 2022, 12:40 AM   #200
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There is a batch of 5712/1R to be released to the AD next week. Good luck to those who have applied for one, hope you get it
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