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Old 18 November 2022, 07:35 AM   #1
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Space panda v 5980/1a

Which is the “heavier” piece, 5980/1a (blue) or the white gold space panda on oyster flex? Which one do you think will have the lower production numbers? If you already own the 5712 and the 5726, would you consider trading the space panda for the 5980 to get the trifecta of complicated nautilus? Asking for a friend…
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Old 18 November 2022, 08:04 AM   #2
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Space panda?
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Old 18 November 2022, 08:12 AM   #3
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For clarification white gold Daytona with meteorite dial ceramic bezel.
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Old 18 November 2022, 08:16 AM   #4
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For clarification white gold Daytona with meteorite dial ceramic bezel.
Figured, just never heard it called that before. Kinda dig the name though
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Old 18 November 2022, 08:19 AM   #5
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To actually answer your question though, in this case if your friend already has the 5712 and 5726, I'd keep the meteorite Daytona. That piece is just awesome. And not just to be able to say you're wearing the space panda.

Then later add the 5980 1R to complete the Nautilus trio with "El Jefe".
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Old 18 November 2022, 09:34 AM   #6
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You had me at space panda. But overall I think 5980 lower production numbers.
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Old 18 November 2022, 09:59 AM   #7
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Space panda v 5980/1a

Space Panda is so good of a nickname, I knew what OP is referencing. first time hearing this.

5980 by a mile. Although Space Panda is exotic. You’ll see Daytona often enough that an exotic dial simply don’t lift it above its class.
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Old 18 November 2022, 10:38 AM   #8
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Lol space panda that's actually cool. I'd definitely rock that over 5980 with the existing collection.
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Old 18 November 2022, 12:40 PM   #9
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Tough choice, but I would lean towards the 519. Simply due to personal preference and I think a standalone chronograph Nautilus isn’t far away from another release by Patek.
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Old 18 November 2022, 03:00 PM   #10
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Which is the “heavier” piece, 5980/1a (blue) or the white gold space panda on oyster flex? Which one do you think will have the lower production numbers? If you already own the 5712 and the 5726, would you consider trading the space panda for the 5980 to get the trifecta of complicated nautilus? Asking for a friend…
I find nautiluses have diminishing returns and after a few I am not sure adding another does much to a collection. I would take the space panda all day.
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Old 18 November 2022, 04:59 PM   #11
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The meteorite dial Daytona is very lovely and rare indeed and a true heavy hitter.
The 5980/1A is one of the best sports references ever made by Patek and I think just edges this one out. Just.
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Old 18 November 2022, 05:14 PM   #12
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The meteorite dial Daytona is very lovely and rare indeed and a true heavy hitter.
The 5980/1A is one of the best sports references ever made by Patek and I think just edges this one out. Just.
A bit of a nit but both the 5980 and the 5968 chrono is just...sticky and rigid. Does not have the feel of a high end chrono - is it just me?
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Old 18 November 2022, 05:21 PM   #13
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Figured, just never heard it called that before. Kinda dig the name though
Same, lol. Took me a second but Space Panda is a cool name
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Old 18 November 2022, 06:29 PM   #14
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go for it, Daytona Meteorite Dial is incredible.
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Old 19 November 2022, 01:42 AM   #15
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I find nautiluses have diminishing returns and after a few I am not sure adding another does much to a collection. I would take the space panda all day.
Which model design platform (PP or otherwise) do you feel escapes this diminishing returns problem?
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Old 19 November 2022, 03:26 AM   #16
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Which model design platform (PP or otherwise) do you feel escapes this diminishing returns problem?
I don't think any brand does really (royal oak vs nautilus vs overseas vs rolex oystercase). I mean its nautilus number 3 versus a meteorite daytona - the choice at least for me is obvious. Perhaps the closest one that can do this is maybe Journe.

In this case you get a pretty scratch resistant chrono on a rubber strap with a very unique dial. You also get a colored metal...
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Which model design platform (PP or otherwise) do you feel escapes this diminishing returns problem?
I would say the Daytona escapes this. The Daytona has so many variations since its inception in 1963. If one were to start collecting Daytona starting today, there are so many things to learn, particularly the little details differentiating one model from another - Paul Newman Daytona (pump pushers, screw down pushers, RCO, RO, ROC, Big Red, Sigma Dial, pulsation, Panda, JPS, floating cosmograph, porcelain, inverted 6, zenith Daytona, in-house Daytona, JM Daytona, meteorite dial etc)

The Nautilus is rich in heritage as well but its appearance are fairly standardised except for a few really significant changes like the switch from Geneva seal to PP seal, the switch from non-hacking to hacking movement for the 5711. Of course there are also the 40th anniversary pieces but that’s generally it?
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I don't think any brand does really (royal oak vs nautilus vs overseas vs rolex oystercase). I mean its nautilus number 3 versus a meteorite daytona - the choice at least for me is obvious. Perhaps the closest one that can do this is maybe Journe.

In this case you get a pretty scratch resistant chrono on a rubber strap with a very unique dial. You also get a colored metal...
Interesting take, thanks for the perspective.

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I would say the Daytona escapes this. The Daytona has so many variations since its inception in 1963. If one were to start collecting Daytona starting today, there are so many things to learn, particularly the little details differentiating one model from another - Paul Newman Daytona (pump pushers, screw down pushers, RCO, RO, ROC, Big Red, Sigma Dial, pulsation, Panda, JPS, floating cosmograph, porcelain, inverted 6, zenith Daytona, in-house Daytona, JM Daytona, meteorite dial etc)

The Nautilus is rich in heritage as well but its appearance are fairly standardised except for a few really significant changes like the switch from Geneva seal to PP seal, the switch from non-hacking to hacking movement for the 5711. Of course there are also the 40th anniversary pieces but that’s generally it?
I do think the meteorite on OF is the best incremental idea in a while just the contrast to bezel is so good plus OF over the WG bracelet one from the 2010's. I'm not sure though that the other ones are varied enough for me to go that deep into Daytonas, even though I do have a daytona addiction.
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Old 19 November 2022, 04:44 AM   #19
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Space panda for me even tho I don't have a nautilus. The 5990 is more for me than a 5980
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Old 25 November 2022, 11:47 PM   #21
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I would keep space panda and add a 5740. Sell 5712 and 5726 if needed to get into 5740 otherwise just add.
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Old 26 November 2022, 01:59 AM   #22
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I don't think you should go for a complicated nautilus "trifecta". Just call it another nautilus.

There's 5712, 5726, 5980, 5990, 5740. Then you have the precious metals and tiffany signed... There's no end.


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