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KCCHIEF · 10 January 2006, 02:40 AM

Hello All!
I am from Kansas City, MO and am the proud owner of a brand new SS Explorer II (black face). I had every intention of purchasing a Submariner w/ date, but was drawn to the Explorer II upon first trying it on. I am happy with the decision, especially since it seems everyone that I know who owns a Rolex has the Submariner.

I do have one question for the GMT or Explorer II owners here...is it possible to move the red 24-hour hand independent of the other hands? My 12-hour hand was set in the store, however the 24-hour hand does not correspond to the right time. I am going to Finland in a couple weeks and want to be able to successfuly utilize this function of my watch!

Your help is much appreciated and I look forward to interacting with you all on this forum!

10 January 2006, 02:51 AM

Hey welcome and congrats on being smart enough to purchase the best looking Rolex available. Double bonus points for selecting the correct dial colour.

Check out this link on how to set the watch properly, and its also layed out for you in the owners manual.

http://fejack.net/misc/gmt24/gmt24.htm

padi56 · 10 January 2006, 03:01 AM

Welcome to TRF CChief great watch just follow the link very simple once you get the hang of it.

KCCHIEF · 10 January 2006, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by padi56

Welcome to TRF CChief great watch just follow the link very simple once you get the hang of it.

Thanks for the response. I have looked at that page before, but it still does not work. It seems that my 24-hour hand does not correpsond correctly to the right 12-hour time. Could it be calibrated (sp?) incorrectly? Right now, the 12-hour time reads 11:12 AM whilst the 24-hour hand is nearly at 15.

Am I missing something? Again, your help and patience for a new owner is much appreciated!

10 January 2006, 03:23 AM

What you can do is pull out the crown so that the quickset function is working (such that you can click the hour hand around as if its a minute hand). Simply line it up with the hour difference you want on the red hand and let her rip.

Or you could reverse it and wind all the hands around to get the red hand where you want it, then quickset the hour hand to the local time and voila!

Uncle-AJ · 10 January 2006, 03:26 AM

Welcome to TRF KCCHIEF. I don't have that watch so can't be of too much help. If you are in any doubt why not take it back to the dealer and voice your thoughts.

JJ Irani · 10 January 2006, 03:29 AM

Welcome to TRF, KC, and that's a great acquisition you have there.

Remember, the red 24-hour hand will only move when you pull the crown out to positon 3 and start to move the minute hand.

From what I understand in your post, you seem to have a QC problem. Obviously, there is some kind of mis-alignment of the hands and you should take the watch to your AD and let them check it out. Post us a picture...that would be a great help.

Good luck - JJ

KCCHIEF · 10 January 2006, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Atomic

What you can do is pull out the crown so that the quickset function is working (such that you can click the hour hand around as if its a minute hand). Simply line it up with the hour difference you want on the red hand and let her rip.

Or you could reverse it and wind all the hands around to get the red hand where you want it, then quickset the hour hand to the local time and voila!

Thanks! I don't know why I never thought of that. I will now buy you a virtual beer.

10 January 2006, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by KCCHIEF

Thanks! I don't know why I never thought of that. I will now buy you a virtual beer.

No need, we are black dial ExpII brothers in arms! Nuff said!

Rockrolex · 10 January 2006, 04:26 AM

Welcome to TRF< Chief.

I hate to disappoint you and contradict John, but you only have the second best Rolex there is. This is the best:

But I will say you do have a very fine watch. And in the right color.

Wear it well and enjoy it. It will do great for you on your trip to Finland. Just remember to pull out the crown to the second stop to set the hour hand. Pull it all the way out to set the red 24 hour hand. But the thing to do is to keep the 24 hour hand set to home time and quick set the hour hand to local time.

Now post some pics so we can see the real thing.

KCCHIEF · 10 January 2006, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockrolex

Welcome to TRF< Chief.

I hate to disappoint you and contradict John, but you only have the second best Rolex there is. This is the best:

But I will say you do have a very fine watch. And in the right color.

Wear it well and enjoy it. It will do great for you on your trip to Finland. Just remember to pull out the crown to the second stop to set the hour hand. Pull it all the way out to set the red 24 hour hand. But the thing to do is to keep the 24 hour hand set to home time and quick set the hour hand to local time.

Now post some pics so we can see the real thing.

I took some pics, but they did not come out very well. I have a 4 mega-pixel digi cam but can not seem to get the quality that everyone else in this forum has. Any suggestions? I have a Casio Exilim.

KCCHIEF · 10 January 2006, 05:11 AM

By the way...I really like the GMT. Maybe that will be my next timepiece acquisition!

Rockrolex · 10 January 2006, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by KCCHIEF

I took some pics, but they did not come out very well. I have a 4 mega-pixel digi cam but can not seem to get the quality that everyone else in this forum has. Any suggestions? I have a Casio Exilim.

I'm not the world's greatest photog, but if your camera has a macro feature, set it to that and then get as close as you can within reason while keeping a sharp picture. Generally avoid flash (the glare off the crystal kills the pic) and use a tripod.

10 January 2006, 06:32 AM

Don't let Ed (rockrolex) make you think the GMT is a better watch, mate. He's just suffering from ExpII envy. But since we're all 'fourth hand brothers' a little rivalry is fun.

KCCHIEF · 10 January 2006, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Atomic

Don't let Ed (rockrolex) make you think the GMT is a better watch, mate. He's just suffering from ExpII envy. But since we're all 'fourth hand brothers' a little rivalry is fun.

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer! But seriously, I do like the GMT, but feel the Explorer II looks crisper and is more versatile than those with the black dial in terms of dress.

10 January 2006, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by KCCHIEF

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer! But seriously, I do like the GMT, but feel the Explorer II looks crisper and is more versatile than those with the black dial in terms of dress.

I initially went looking for a GMTII and ended up with the ExpII. I particularly like the semi-sloping engraved bezel as it is sporty, yet still dresses up nicely with a suit. Put it on a strap (as mine has been for over a month now) and it dresses up even more so.

No question, it's Rolex's more versatile watch.

Rockrolex · 10 January 2006, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Atomic

I initially went looking for a GMTII and ended up with the ExpII. I particularly like the semi-sloping engraved bezel as it is sporty, yet still dresses up nicely with a suit. Put it on a strap (as mine has been for over a month now) and it dresses up even more so.

No question, it's Rolex's more versatile watch.

You really can't go wrong with either the black dial EXPII or the black bezel GMTII. Both are great watches and both dress up or down nicely.

But try the GMT, Chief. You'll see what I mean about it being the better of the two.

10 January 2006, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockrolex

You really can't go wrong with either the black dial EXPII or the black bezel GMTII. Both are great watches and both dress up or down nicely.

But try the GMT, Chief. You'll see what I mean about it being the better of the two.

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

Rockrolex · 10 January 2006, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Atomic

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

Adoption is still up in the air!!

10 January 2006, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockrolex

Adoption is still up in the air!!

Hey I did say the GMTII was the watch I initially wanted... black on black for that matter. THen look what happened.

Rockrolex · 10 January 2006, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Atomic

Hey I did say the GMTII was the watch I initially wanted... black on black for that matter. THen look what happened.

Exactly. Look what happened!!

KCCHIEF · 10 January 2006, 08:02 AM

I am more of an explorer than a diver anyway...I LIVE IN MISSOURI FOR F-SAKES!

Rockrolex · 10 January 2006, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by KCCHIEF

I am more of an explorer than a diver anyway...I LIVE IN MISSOURI FOR F-SAKES!

Gee, I don't know. When I went to Wash U 45 years ago, the big sport was dumpster diving. But you didn't need to worry about water resistance then.

KCCHIEF · 10 January 2006, 08:09 AM

Are the GMT and Sub bigger than the Explorer II? I don't remember a difference but in pictures they do.

Rockrolex · 10 January 2006, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by KCCHIEF

Are the GMT and Sub bigger than the Explorer II? I don't remember a difference but in pictures they do.

I'm not sure. I know the GMT is 40 mm. The EXP may be a tad smaller, but don't hold me to that.

ralphieralph · 10 January 2006, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockrolex

I'm not sure. I know the GMT is 40 mm. The EXP may be a tad smaller, but don't hold me to that.

There both 4omm it's just that the bezel makes th exp look smaller,

mailman · 10 January 2006, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockrolex

I'm not sure. I know the GMT is 40 mm. The EXP may be a tad smaller, but don't hold me to that.

The EXPII is 39mm. The Kiwi Kook will confirm this.

dman · 10 January 2006, 12:38 PM

Welcome to TRF, great to see you jump in and start posting. The boys seem to have answered your questions well, so I will get on to the important stuff. Great replacement IMHO with Edwards, could eb a sparkplug for a team that is close already.

dman · 10 January 2006, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KCCHIEF

Are the GMT and Sub bigger than the Explorer II? I don't remember a difference but in pictures they do.

Not supposed to be, but that is up for debate.

dina · 10 January 2006, 01:26 PM

Welcome to the forum kcchief

10 January 2006, 02:40 AM	#1
KCCHIEF "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Real Name: Jeff Location: Kansas City, MO Watch: Daytona & Sub Date Posts: 256	Question for New Member - Explorer II Owner Hello All! I am from Kansas City, MO and am the proud owner of a brand new SS Explorer II (black face). I had every intention of purchasing a Submariner w/ date, but was drawn to the Explorer II upon first trying it on. I am happy with the decision, especially since it seems everyone that I know who owns a Rolex has the Submariner. I do have one question for the GMT or Explorer II owners here...is it possible to move the red 24-hour hand independent of the other hands? My 12-hour hand was set in the store, however the 24-hour hand does not correspond to the right time. I am going to Finland in a couple weeks and want to be able to successfuly utilize this function of my watch! Your help is much appreciated and I look forward to interacting with you all on this forum!

10 January 2006, 03:01 AM	#3
padi56 "TRF" Life Patron Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Peter Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng Watch: ing you. Posts: 52,334	Welcome to TRF CChief great watch just follow the link very simple once you get the hang of it. __________________ ICom Pro3 All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only. "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever." Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again. www.mc0yad.club Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder

10 January 2006, 03:26 AM	#6
Uncle-AJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Real Name: Adrian Location: Bolton, UK. Watch: Daytona 116520 Posts: 6,844	Welcome to TRF KCCHIEF. I don't have that watch so can't be of too much help. If you are in any doubt why not take it back to the dealer and voice your thoughts. __________________ A man with a watch knows what time it is. A man with two watches is never sure.........Segal's Law Member #10

10 January 2006, 03:29 AM	#7
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,320	Welcome to TRF, KC, and that's a great acquisition you have there. Remember, the red 24-hour hand will only move when you pull the crown out to positon 3 and start to move the minute hand. From what I understand in your post, you seem to have a QC problem. Obviously, there is some kind of mis-alignment of the hands and you should take the watch to your AD and let them check it out. Post us a picture...that would be a great help. Good luck - JJ __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!! Last edited by JJ Irani; 10 January 2006 at 03:30 AM..

10 January 2006, 04:26 AM	#10
Rockrolex TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: God Location: Washington, D.C. Watch: What do you think? Posts: 37,526	Welcome to TRF< Chief. I hate to disappoint you and contradict John, but you only have the second best Rolex there is. This is the best: But I will say you do have a very fine watch. And in the right color. Wear it well and enjoy it. It will do great for you on your trip to Finland. Just remember to pull out the crown to the second stop to set the hour hand. Pull it all the way out to set the red 24 hour hand. But the thing to do is to keep the 24 hour hand set to home time and quick set the hour hand to local time. Now post some pics so we can see the real thing. __________________ Despite the high cost of living, it's still very popular. *Tosser Cabinet Member* Official Member: 'Perpetual 30' Vegas International GTG 2016 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2018 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2019

10 January 2006, 02:51 AM	#2
Atomic Guest Posts: n/a	Hey welcome and congrats on being smart enough to purchase the best looking Rolex available. Double bonus points for selecting the correct dial colour. Check out this link on how to set the watch properly, and its also layed out for you in the owners manual. http://fejack.net/misc/gmt24/gmt24.htm

10 January 2006, 03:23 AM	#5
Atomic Guest Posts: n/a	What you can do is pull out the crown so that the quickset function is working (such that you can click the hour hand around as if its a minute hand). Simply line it up with the hour difference you want on the red hand and let her rip. Or you could reverse it and wind all the hands around to get the red hand where you want it, then quickset the hour hand to the local time and voila!

10 January 2006, 05:11 AM	#12
KCCHIEF "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Real Name: Jeff Location: Kansas City, MO Watch: Daytona & Sub Date Posts: 256	By the way...I really like the GMT. Maybe that will be my next timepiece acquisition! __________________ Johnny Bench called SS Daytona w/ White Dial (116520) SS Submariner Date (116610LN)

10 January 2006, 06:32 AM	#14
Atomic Guest Posts: n/a	Don't let Ed (rockrolex) make you think the GMT is a better watch, mate. He's just suffering from ExpII envy. But since we're all 'fourth hand brothers' a little rivalry is fun.

10 January 2006, 08:02 AM	#22
KCCHIEF "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Real Name: Jeff Location: Kansas City, MO Watch: Daytona & Sub Date Posts: 256	I am more of an explorer than a diver anyway...I LIVE IN MISSOURI FOR F-SAKES! __________________ Johnny Bench called SS Daytona w/ White Dial (116520) SS Submariner Date (116610LN)

10 January 2006, 08:09 AM	#24
KCCHIEF "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Real Name: Jeff Location: Kansas City, MO Watch: Daytona & Sub Date Posts: 256	Are the GMT and Sub bigger than the Explorer II? I don't remember a difference but in pictures they do. __________________ Johnny Bench called SS Daytona w/ White Dial (116520) SS Submariner Date (116610LN)

10 January 2006, 12:38 PM	#28
dman Lifetime TRF Patron Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Daren Location: Austin Watch: the road Posts: 13,583	Welcome to TRF, great to see you jump in and start posting. The boys seem to have answered your questions well, so I will get on to the important stuff. Great replacement IMHO with Edwards, could eb a sparkplug for a team that is close already. __________________ You either get it or you don't, if you have to ask, YOU DON'T!! I really hope that midget cop doesn't find me in Kokomo.

10 January 2006, 01:26 PM	#30
dina "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Real Name: Dina Location: utica Posts: 1,392	Welcome to the forum kcchief

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