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Juantxo · 11 March 2018, 02:00 PM

I own both. Get the Explorer, hands down. I love the TOG for many reasons but the bezel is a dud. The bezel on the TOG doesn’t ratchet which is a pain. Also, you can clearly see in you own picture how the paint on the bezel discolors. The Explorer II is one of the best watches Rolex has made, albeit not the most popular.

omitohud · 12 March 2018, 09:42 AM

Errrr! Did anyone mention polar?

I blame it on the autoconnect.

RedLs3 · 12 March 2018, 09:54 AM

Good patina on that polar

CDNWatchNut · 12 March 2018, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juantxo

I own both. I love the TOG for many reasons but the bezel is a dud. The bezel on the TOG doesn’t ratchet which is a pain.

I really like the smoothness of the TOG bezel without the ratcheting efffect, and I think its quite suitable since the watch is really meant for things like timing your steak vs timing your dive.

rollee1 · 12 March 2018, 11:46 AM

TOG because it has lume that still glow.

Cutlass · 12 March 2018, 10:06 PM

TOG is fantastic watch .. I love mine

Blingtone · 12 March 2018, 11:22 PM

Bought the white TOG when it was released 2007ish (previous comments re bezel were also an issue for me) I swapped it for a Polar 16570 within a month, because I felt it wore too 'small' compared to my same size Explorer 14270 - best 'flip' I've done.

tomchicago · 13 March 2018, 01:22 AM

TURN-O all day long

997 · 13 March 2018, 01:45 AM

Explorer, it will be more useful if you decide to climb Everest.

RedLs3 · 13 March 2018, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 997

Explorer, it will be more useful if you decide to climb Everest.

Thats on my bucket list

ChipClip2 · 17 March 2018, 03:10 AM

I had a similar thread going recently trying to decide between these same refs, so I feel your pain!

Initially I was leaning toward the 16570 since it's a bit more understated and sporty, but every time I got close to pulling the trigger my mind would always wander back to the 116264. No matter how hard I tried I couldn't get over how unique it was in the Rolex line and how it just popped in all the best ways.

I ended up going with a black dial TOG 116264 and couldn't be happier. Listen to your gut and buy whichever one puts a smile on your face!

BentleyReese · 19 March 2018, 10:28 AM

TOG...conversation piece. Lots of history. and not to many people have them. so it is a rarity that you see it in the wild. TOG...my friend. TOG.

101031-28 · 19 March 2018, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by henrylee

This is an easy choice, ExpII with full papers and recent service. The service alone is worth $700-800.

x2

Raza_actual · 19 March 2018, 12:29 PM

I really like that Turnograph, but why not split the difference and get a white dial 16570?

Andrejb · 19 March 2018, 12:36 PM

EXP II. No contest

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sickened1 · 19 March 2018, 12:42 PM

teb1013 · 19 March 2018, 04:18 PM

I never got into the Turn O Graph, I have a regular 16233 DJ. As for the 16570 Explorer II, I have the Polar, it is a great watch in every way, I would go for that hands down.

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12 March 2018, 11:46 AM	#35
rollee1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Real Name: Rollee Location: Boston Watch: it watching me Posts: 1,945	TOG because it has lume that still glow. __________________ Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted

12 March 2018, 10:06 PM	#36
Cutlass "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Real Name: Denis Location: Croatia / Zagreb Posts: 706	TOG is fantastic watch .. I love mine __________________ IG & email : @vintage_seiko_world & @budakknives

19 March 2018, 12:29 PM	#44
Raza_actual "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Philadelphia Watch: Monaco Posts: 391	I really like that Turnograph, but why not split the difference and get a white dial 16570? __________________ TAG Heuer Monaco LE\|Omega Speedmaster\|Tudor Ranger\|Rolex Submariner

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11 March 2018, 02:00 PM	#31
Juantxo Banned Join Date: May 2016 Location: Utopia Posts: 2,101	I own both. Get the Explorer, hands down. I love the TOG for many reasons but the bezel is a dud. The bezel on the TOG doesn’t ratchet which is a pain. Also, you can clearly see in you own picture how the paint on the bezel discolors. The Explorer II is one of the best watches Rolex has made, albeit not the most popular.

12 March 2018, 09:42 AM	#32
omitohud "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Sam Location: los Angeles Posts: 2,051	Errrr! Did anyone mention polar? I blame it on the autoconnect.

12 March 2018, 09:54 AM	#33
RedLs3 Banned Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: NYC Posts: 283	Good patina on that polar

12 March 2018, 11:22 PM	#37
Blingtone "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Tony Location: Loughton UK Watch: 16610LV no Rehault Posts: 369	Bought the white TOG when it was released 2007ish (previous comments re bezel were also an issue for me) I swapped it for a Polar 16570 within a month, because I felt it wore too 'small' compared to my same size Explorer 14270 - best 'flip' I've done.

13 March 2018, 01:22 AM	#38
tomchicago Banned Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chicago Watch: 16710BLRO, 214270. Posts: 2,717	TURN-O all day long

13 March 2018, 01:45 AM	#39
997 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: SA Posts: 324	Explorer, it will be more useful if you decide to climb Everest.

17 March 2018, 03:10 AM	#41
ChipClip2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: San Francisco Watch: 1603/16570/116264 Posts: 45	I had a similar thread going recently trying to decide between these same refs, so I feel your pain! Initially I was leaning toward the 16570 since it's a bit more understated and sporty, but every time I got close to pulling the trigger my mind would always wander back to the 116264. No matter how hard I tried I couldn't get over how unique it was in the Rolex line and how it just popped in all the best ways. I ended up going with a black dial TOG 116264 and couldn't be happier. Listen to your gut and buy whichever one puts a smile on your face!

19 March 2018, 10:28 AM	#42
BentleyReese "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Real Name: Michael Location: Los Angeles Watch: YachtMaster 116622 Posts: 337	TOG...conversation piece. Lots of history. and not to many people have them. so it is a rarity that you see it in the wild. TOG...my friend. TOG.

19 March 2018, 12:36 PM	#45
Andrejb 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2016 Real Name: Dre Location: Canada Posts: 1,689	EXP II. No contest Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

19 March 2018, 12:42 PM	#46
sickened1 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Real Name: Ed Location: SoCal Watch: ugiveiswatchuget Posts: 8,961

19 March 2018, 04:18 PM	#47
teb1013 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Easton PA Posts: 581	I never got into the Turn O Graph, I have a regular 16233 DJ. As for the 16570 Explorer II, I have the Polar, it is a great watch in every way, I would go for that hands down. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

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