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Old 8 September 2015, 10:39 PM   #1
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Icon20 Is my Rolex original?

I'm the owner of Rolex watch, but I'm not sure is it the original work?
Inside the watch (photos you can find in attachment)I found some numbers and
the phrase : "PATENT ROLEX". Do you know what it means?
I will be very grateful for your help.
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Old 8 September 2015, 10:44 PM   #2
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It's been serviced a few times based on the chewed up screws, but it appears to be legit to me.

Not necessarily all original, but legit.
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Old 8 September 2015, 11:59 PM   #3
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Looks good to me.
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Old 9 September 2015, 03:01 AM   #4
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It's been serviced a few times based on the chewed up screws, but it appears to be legit to me.

Not necessarily all original, but legit.
Thank You very much! Could You explain what does: "Not necessarily all original, but legit" mean :) Thank You one more time for help.
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Old 9 September 2015, 04:41 AM   #5
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I don't see anything that screams unoriginal about this watch with the exception of the possibly the seconds hand which I think is either a bit short or a bit long. They always come to the edge of the seconds track. So either the inner seconds track or the outer but not in between. Typical...they have a tendency to launch into space.

Likely a 9 3/4 H Aegler 15 jewel movement.

I sometimes muse when reading through posts...

As for the screws being chewed up.... Actually for the age of this watch they are in pretty good shape. Far less abuse here than most of the watches that we see from the period.

The watch is late 20's early 30's. You've got 3 bridge screws that are marred a bit more than one would like to see. This usually comes from the guy before over tightening the screws to the point that your blade breaks off and the screwdriver mars the screw. The rest of the screws are quite good. Yes, it's probably been serviced a few times....so that is a BAD thing?

You make it sound as if it would be better if it had not been serviced.

I think people are unrealistic. No one bought these watches and put them in safes for speculation. Most people couldn't have even afforded this watch when it was new at all. If they bought it they were gonna wear it. Food was a bit more pressing.

The care and standards which repairmen hoped for through the decades, was not the same as what we attempt today, nor are these screws the same as the hardware store pan bolts that ETA uses that you can probably use swiss army knife screwdriver to remove.

Sure no one likes to booger a screw. It happens. One of those screws now costs more that it did to service the ENTIRE watch when it was made.

For its age the plates are quite good especially considering it is not an oyster case watch.

The dial appears to be original and the hands other than the seconds seem appropriate for the dial.

Patent Rolex is announcing that something about that particular movement is patented by them. It's "impressive jargon"
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Old 9 September 2015, 06:02 AM   #6
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Old 14 September 2015, 08:44 PM   #7
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Thank You one more time :)
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I don't see anything that screams unoriginal about this watch with the exception of the possibly the seconds hand which I think is either a bit short or a bit long. They always come to the edge of the seconds track. So either the inner seconds track or the outer but not in between. Typical...they have a tendency to launch into space.

Likely a 9 3/4 H Aegler 15 jewel movement.

I sometimes muse when reading through posts...

As for the screws being chewed up.... Actually for the age of this watch they are in pretty good shape. Far less abuse here than most of the watches that we see from the period.

The watch is late 20's early 30's. You've got 3 bridge screws that are marred a bit more than one would like to see. This usually comes from the guy before over tightening the screws to the point that your blade breaks off and the screwdriver mars the screw. The rest of the screws are quite good. Yes, it's probably been serviced a few times....so that is a BAD thing?

You make it sound as if it would be better if it had not been serviced.

I think people are unrealistic. No one bought these watches and put them in safes for speculation. Most people couldn't have even afforded this watch when it was new at all. If they bought it they were gonna wear it. Food was a bit more pressing.

The care and standards which repairmen hoped for through the decades, was not the same as what we attempt today, nor are these screws the same as the hardware store pan bolts that ETA uses that you can probably use swiss army knife screwdriver to remove.

Sure no one likes to booger a screw. It happens. One of those screws now costs more that it did to service the ENTIRE watch when it was made.

For its age the plates are quite good especially considering it is not an oyster case watch.

The dial appears to be original and the hands other than the seconds seem appropriate for the dial.

Patent Rolex is announcing that something about that particular movement is patented by them. It's "impressive jargon"
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