ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

rmlovett1 · 20 January 2017, 01:11 AM

Looking at this 1974, 4.09 serial, DRSD. Dial is a MKV. Is this normal production dial or service? I know about the hands, bracelet, insert, etc.... just wondering if anyone had thoughts, or is familiar with the DRSD MKV dials. Longtime trusted TRF seller, whom I've purchased from in the past.

Any thoughts or opinions on this would be appreciated.

rmlovett1 · 20 January 2017, 01:12 AM

rmlovett1 · 20 January 2017, 01:12 AM

rmlovett1 · 20 January 2017, 01:13 AM

4

Michael M. · 20 January 2017, 03:32 AM

It's a service dial. Story goes that these were available from Geneva for a period short time and were fitted to 1665's on an exchange only basis, meaning that you could only request a service/MK5 DRSD dial if your 1665 was currently fitted with an original DRSD dial.

Same goes for the 1680's fitted with a service/MK7 Red dial.

rmlovett1 · 20 January 2017, 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael M.

It's a service dial. Story goes that these were available from Geneva for a period short time and were fitted to 1665's on an exchange only basis, meaning that you could only request a service/MK5 DRSD dial if your 1665 was currently fitted with an original DRSD dial.

Same goes for the 1680's fitted with a service/MK7 Red dial.

much appreciated!

traf · 20 January 2017, 04:30 AM

You beat me to it, Rich!

Sent from my iPhone 7+ using Tapatalk

dbfagan · 20 January 2017, 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael M.

It's a service dial. Story goes that these were available from Geneva for a period short time and were fitted to 1665's on an exchange only basis, meaning that you could only request a service/MK5 DRSD dial if your 1665 was currently fitted with an original DRSD dial.

Same goes for the 1680's fitted with a service/MK7 Red dial.

Would this greatly affect the value of the watch? I would assume it would lower it somewhat as vintage collectors like originality. If Rolex only did this for a short period of time, and only for watches that had a DRSD dial, it seems these service dials would be a little on the rare side.

swish77 · 23 January 2017, 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbfagan

Would this greatly affect the value of the watch? I would assume it would lower it somewhat as vintage collectors like originality. If Rolex only did this for a short period of time, and only for watches that had a DRSD dial, it seems these service dials would be a little on the rare side.

Yes, it's true you don't see many of these DRSD service dials, but it's still a service dial. I would expect a huge difference in price over an original dial, maybe as much as $8K-$10K, assuming the original dial was in good shape.

JerimiahLee · 23 January 2017, 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swish77

Yes, it's true you don't see many of these DRSD service dials, but it's still a service dial. I would expect a huge difference in price over an original dial, maybe as much as $8K-$10K, assuming the original dial was in good shape.

Service dials typically command a discount. However, these DRSD and 1680 Red service dials are rare, desirable, and a beauty in their own respect. An example will surely trade for far less than an untouched original example, but will command a premium over a typical service dial with no red text.

Classique Breguet · 22 March 2020, 02:48 PM

Is this a luminova dial or tritium?

What would just this dial be worth today on the open market??

1665fan · 22 March 2020, 10:28 PM

Looks luminova to me

bayareabuggs · 22 March 2020, 11:22 PM

Service dials just look wrong in a vintage case.

haven_seeker · 23 March 2020, 12:26 AM

One helluva service dial.

Reminds me of the Red 1680 Sub Emersm posted awhile back...

These dials are absolutely gorgeous IMO

scooba · 23 March 2020, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haven_seeker

One helluva service dial.

Reminds me of the Red 1680 Sub Emersm posted awhile back...

These dials are absolutely gorgeous IMO

x2

haven_seeker · 23 March 2020, 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scooba

x2

Had to bump the other one too

If only they were all this gorgeous!

Classique Breguet · 26 March 2020, 08:19 AM

Real or fake.

I'm assuming fake because 99+/100 of these are fake

This is printed on a singer plate.

If it is fake it appears it was modeled after these MKV service dials.
The plots are granular, appear tritiumish, and glow green faintly for a short time after UV light exposure

Classique Breguet · 26 March 2020, 09:07 AM

Please feel free to PM me any info if you don't want to discuss it in public.

BigBlue1 · 26 March 2020, 09:23 AM

That red is very striking. I love it

Michael M. · 26 March 2020, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Classique Breguet

Real or fake.

I'm assuming fake because 99+/100 of these are fake

This is printed on a singer plate.

If it is fake it appears it was modeled after these MKV service dials.
The plots are granular, appear tritiumish, and glow green faintly for a short time after UV light exposure

Fake.

Classique Breguet · 27 March 2020, 06:50 AM

Took this dial to my local Authorized Rolex dealer service guy. They thought it was gen NOS MKV service dial and installed it for me.

Seems too good to be true, but I can enjoy the fantasy.

Classique Breguet · 28 March 2020, 02:34 AM

Hah,

Did some recon on the fake sites- this is a very good fake dial made in Vietnam.

This is going back to the seller.

26 March 2020, 09:23 AM	#19
BigBlue1 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Real Name: Webmaster Location: Space Watch: it pal ! Posts: 2,955	That red is very striking. I love it __________________ " Even I don't wake up looking like Cindy Crawford". Cindy Crawford Hypochondria is the only disease I haven't got RIP Mikey

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

20 January 2017, 03:32 AM	#5
Michael M. Banned Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 8,391	It's a service dial. Story goes that these were available from Geneva for a period short time and were fitted to 1665's on an exchange only basis, meaning that you could only request a service/MK5 DRSD dial if your 1665 was currently fitted with an original DRSD dial. Same goes for the 1680's fitted with a service/MK7 Red dial.

20 January 2017, 04:30 AM	#7
traf "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Real Name: dave Location: miami Watch: me ride bikes Posts: 1,938	You beat me to it, Rich! Sent from my iPhone 7+ using Tapatalk

22 March 2020, 02:48 PM	#11
Classique Breguet 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: San Francisco Bay Posts: 432	Is this a luminova dial or tritium? What would just this dial be worth today on the open market??

22 March 2020, 10:28 PM	#12
1665fan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: East coast Posts: 6,590	Looks luminova to me

22 March 2020, 11:22 PM	#13
bayareabuggs Banned Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: San Francisco Posts: 83	Service dials just look wrong in a vintage case.

23 March 2020, 12:26 AM	#14
haven_seeker "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Northern Ontario Watch: 19018N OQ Posts: 848	One helluva service dial. Reminds me of the Red 1680 Sub Emersm posted awhile back... These dials are absolutely gorgeous IMO

26 March 2020, 09:07 AM	#18
Classique Breguet 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: San Francisco Bay Posts: 432	Please feel free to PM me any info if you don't want to discuss it in public.

28 March 2020, 02:34 AM	#22
Classique Breguet 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: San Francisco Bay Posts: 432	Hah, Did some recon on the fake sites- this is a very good fake dial made in Vietnam. This is going back to the seller.

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)