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Old 2 August 2020, 03:40 AM   #1
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Success vs Happiness....

While we suffer through this quarantine and some are doing some serious assessment of their life and goals I found this article to be interesting.

It talks of the addiction to social media. The addiction to PRAISE which is one of the aspects of "success" chasing. And it talks of the human need for praise over happiness.

There are often "happiness" scores given to different cultures and countries from surveys taken, and the US is generally a ways down the line in the scoring. I've often said that part of that reason is the US propaganda machine that states you can achieve whatever you set out to achieve when in reality LUCK plays a very direct role in who gets to achieve the most money (usually the measuring stick).

Some well say, "well you make your own luck" and to some extent that is true. But the fact of the matter is that some people get to the "top" for a variety of reasons. Connections, money, timing, and just plain old luck play a part as well.

In other countries where the "sky is the limit" is not reasonably achievable, people are very often higher rated on the "happiness index". (Costa Rica is often rated the highest) People are happier and just more satisfied.

When chasing money and keeping up with the Joneses is the mindset, people can just never seem to be satisfied. Perhaps that's why consumerism in the US is the national pastime, in an effort to be happy.

But, buying stuff never really seems to pan out as a way to make a person happy. (Obviously not counting Rolexes, of course)

Anyways, an interesting article.....

https://www.theatlantic.com/family/a...-happy/614731/
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Old 2 August 2020, 03:51 AM   #2
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Great article, thanks for posting. I'm retiring early for this very reason. Getting off the treadmill and spend more time with loved ones and enjoying the simple things. My father recently passed away at 72 and it gave me a stark reminder of how short life is.
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Old 2 August 2020, 04:06 AM   #3
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Iíve often thought about this subject before.


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We are simply here as visitors as we choose our eternal rest.
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Old 2 August 2020, 04:51 AM   #6
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Nice hearing from you BLANSKY as I was wondering what has happen to you..! :)
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I may not have the best of things, or the most, or the newest... but as of right now I am happy. I consider that a success due to the current state of things.

It's the old KISS principle... Keep It Simple, Stupid.
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Old 2 August 2020, 05:55 AM   #8
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Nice hearing from you BLANSKY as I was wondering what has happen to you..! :)
Thanks.

Been painting some rooms and basically shut off the computer for a few days.
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Old 2 August 2020, 06:24 AM   #9
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I have found the goal is meaning and purpose, happiness is very fleeting and success may not be meaningful especially if it is measured in dollars, cars, degrees, pats on the back, insta likes, etc.
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Being happy with ones success is important - Iím lucky that both work and home life bring happiness. Both are immensely hard work, especially at the moment, but very fulfilling.

Learning to appreciate what youíve got and not covet thy neighbour is what it takes.

As you say luck plays a huge role, that many wonít acknowledge.

Being born into a prosperous country with good access to education is pure luck number one for many who go on to make it on their own.
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I have found the goal is meaning and purpose, happiness is very fleeting and success may not be meaningful especially if it is measured in dollars, cars, degrees, pats on the back, insta likes, etc.

This.

I made substantially more money when I was 26 but I was an a-hole. It took 4 yrs after that (losing everything I had and living in a storage shed for two months in summer which is a story for another time) to realize life is so much more than the rat race. I did not quit, I found a steady job and figured out ways to make money on the side.

I was not willing to continue my previous endeavors so I found a new much less paying career. Since then Iíve found myself (being completely happy with myself in a one bedroom apartment with no one to make me happy but myself) because before my happiness always relied on a woman. Without one I wasnít happy.

When I found happiness in myself and my situation (no matter what it is) I truly found happiness and success. I donít make much money at my ďjobĒ, I donít drive a brand new car, I donít have the most perfectly manicured lawn and I often buy quality things used. I have the woman of my dreams, some projects (Iím a tinkerer) and the best dog a man could ask to be his best friend. Life could not be much better for me.

All of this started by a relentless, persevering, never quit attitude. I donít credit luck because Iím not a guy thatís ďluckyĒ. I help others and try to be a beacon of positivity, however that surfaces with each situation. That peace and comfort in myself and my conscience is what Iím most happy about. Iím also very happy I found an amazing woman.


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Old 2 August 2020, 08:50 AM   #12
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Thanks for sharing the article and your thoughts. There is much wisdom in both and this is something I personally struggle with.
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Thx OP for posting.

Currency (generally incorrectly called money, yet it's not money, it is currency) is an illusion. Once you understand the illusion and how to work their financial system...

Happiness comes from within. jmho
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Not to flog a dead or dying horse but I read this today and thought it is a rather insightful treatise on success as well.

https://markmanson.net/how-to-be-insanely-successful
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Old 5 August 2020, 04:37 AM   #18
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While we suffer through this quarantine and some are doing some serious assessment of their life and goals I found this article to be interesting.

It talks of the addiction to social media. The addiction to PRAISE which is one of the aspects of "success" chasing. And it talks of the human need for praise over happiness.

There are often "happiness" scores given to different cultures and countries from surveys taken, and the US is generally a ways down the line in the scoring. I've often said that part of that reason is the US propaganda machine that states you can achieve whatever you set out to achieve when in reality LUCK plays a very direct role in who gets to achieve the most money (usually the measuring stick).

Some well say, "well you make your own luck" and to some extent that is true. But the fact of the matter is that some people get to the "top" for a variety of reasons. Connections, money, timing, and just plain old luck play a part as well.

In other countries where the "sky is the limit" is not reasonably achievable, people are very often higher rated on the "happiness index". (Costa Rica is often rated the highest) People are happier and just more satisfied.

When chasing money and keeping up with the Joneses is the mindset, people can just never seem to be satisfied. Perhaps that's why consumerism in the US is the national pastime, in an effort to be happy.

But, buying stuff never really seems to pan out as a way to make a person happy. (Obviously not counting Rolexes, of course)

Anyways, an interesting article.....

https://www.theatlantic.com/family/a...-happy/614731/
the millennial generation and younger (for the most part) are less consumerism based and more happiness based. they are also finding less traditional ways to make money like being youtube personalities and such.

the system is designed for people to have a mortgage, car payment and 2.2 kids.

time will tell but success and money are two separate things. i know a lot of people with money that are complete f ups and others with less money that are successful.

i work and save so i can support my family and hope to retire younger than most. you can never know where life takes you but that is the goal for now.

ive had a lot of luck in my life but most of it has not been monetary. i believe the reason why is i dont need monetary luck. i work hard and get paid to do so.

the best quote you can find is from the movie blow - "money isnt real george, you just think it is"
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