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Old 6 July 2016, 09:49 PM   #1
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BLNR fake or not

I mentioned in another post I'm looking for a new 116610 but, I have been admiring the BLNR also. I'm keeping my eyes out and rolled across this beauty. The seller has a fair but firm price. I quickly googled fakes/replicas for BLNR as I remembered reading it was difficult to fake because of the bi-colour cerachrome, and to my surprise they are around. I have not bothered to ask for a picture without the casing on but I think it looks suds regardless. Anyone care to play?

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A side by side comparison I found (fake on the left)


I personally think the numbers are too thin. Like the 22 on left hand side watch in the 3rd picture

Disclaimer I clearly have no clue hence why I ask. I just saw one from a well known seller here which also has thinner, less crowded numbers on the benzel. It really is a minefield.

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Old 6 July 2016, 11:11 PM   #2
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We need more pictures in clear detail to be able to analyze this watch.
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Old 6 July 2016, 11:18 PM   #3
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cerachrome is faked albeit not as correct as genuine Rolex.

I am confused all your photos, which is the watch being analyzed?

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Old 6 July 2016, 11:56 PM   #4
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Disclaimer I clearly have no clue hence why I ask.
With all due respect, then you should not be trying to buy a watch in this manner.

Seek out an Authorized dealer or deal with a seller with a solid reputation.
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Old 23 July 2016, 09:38 AM   #5
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Numbers on left are different and the 6 and 9 are thicker. Newbie opinion
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Old 23 July 2016, 09:39 AM   #6
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fake 100%
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Old 23 July 2016, 10:01 AM   #7
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Old 23 July 2016, 10:05 AM   #8
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The white gold rings around the hour markers seem a little too thick. Not 100% it's fake, but I know this much-- the camera is defintely fake.
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Old 23 July 2016, 01:03 PM   #9
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I'm with PTruong: "paging Sachal007!!"
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Old 23 July 2016, 01:12 PM   #10
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LOL Super fake eagle eyes
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Old 23 July 2016, 01:20 PM   #11
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We need more pictures in clear detail to be able to analyze this watch.
This.

That pic is way too bad/compressed to make any real determination.

However, two things make me lean towards genuine (for now):
1. Correct hand stack.
2. Correct (thin) GMT hand.

Still, no way to say for sure without better pics.
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Old 23 July 2016, 02:49 PM   #12
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Definitely looks fake.
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Old 23 July 2016, 05:08 PM   #13
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Tough to say with just one very bad pic
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Old 24 July 2016, 06:23 PM   #14
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If we are talking about the watch in the first 2 pics, it is definitely gen.


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Old 24 July 2016, 07:38 PM   #15
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Both watches?
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Old 24 July 2016, 07:59 PM   #16
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Hard to tell with the angle, but the rehaut engraving looks badly aligned around the 16 to 18 area.

I'd pass on it too.
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Old 24 July 2016, 10:59 PM   #17
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Both watches?
Yes, if we are talking about the first "two" pics. The last one where you see it next to a fake is easily distinguishable.

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Old 24 July 2016, 11:00 PM   #18
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Hard to tell with the angle, but the rehaut engraving looks badly aligned around the 16 to 18 area.

I'd pass on it too.
Gen rehaut looks misaligned at an angle guys.

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Old 24 July 2016, 11:04 PM   #19
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See how the engravings on the left look misaligned.
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Old 25 July 2016, 04:37 AM   #20
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The 2's on the 2, 22, & 20.......the top end of fonts are different. Round on 2 and 20 pointed on 22. Orig on right is rounded
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Old 25 July 2016, 04:40 AM   #21
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See how the engravings on the left look misaligned.
All R on rehaut shifted bit to left yes!!!
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Old 25 July 2016, 04:51 AM   #22
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The 2's on the 2, 22, & 20.......the top end of fonts are different. Round on 2 and 20 pointed on 22. Orig on right is rounded
They appear this way due to the depth of the engravings and the shadow caused by the light.

My vote is still 100% gen. If you can get more pics it will be a lot easier.

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Old 25 July 2016, 05:06 AM   #23
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All R on rehaut shifted bit to left yes!!!
If you look at the engraved "Rolex" on the top left, you can see each letter is off center.

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