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Old 4 December 2019, 04:41 PM   #1
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Calling for opinions: Rolex DateJust 68258 18K President.

I have owned this watch since 2009-2010, it was purchased from a second hand store.
I'm unsure of its originality so i'm seeking advice from persons with watch experience.
Your feedback is extremely welcome. I'd like to know if it's worth further exploration to determine if it is genuine.

DETAILS: It's missing the (cyclops) and also the Rolex symbol/badge on the clasp join, although there is black scuff marks to possibly say it was once in place. I notice the bezel is off center. It feels quite weighty and has a smooth continuous rotating second hand.

This is what I've found to be a match online:

Rolex DateJust 18K President Diamond Dial And Bezel Midsize Ladies Watch

Ref# 68258
SKU - R0226193A

Kind regards, Ashlea
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Old 4 December 2019, 08:25 PM   #2
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Dear me! Thats a bad fake.

What did you pay? What was the store? How did they describe it?
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Old 4 December 2019, 11:47 PM   #3
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Not sure if it's fake or not. I googled that reference number and found several examples with the bezel aligned differently.

My red flags are the lack of cyclops and the knurling on the case back being seemingly out of place.
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Old 4 December 2019, 11:58 PM   #4
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Old 5 December 2019, 12:40 AM   #5
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Was the second hand store owned by your grandfather by any chance?
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Old 5 December 2019, 06:46 AM   #6
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Take it back it’s fake


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Old 5 December 2019, 09:50 AM   #7
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Yikes, whata disaster
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Old 5 December 2019, 10:26 AM   #8
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Horrible fake.
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Old 5 December 2019, 06:35 PM   #9
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Thanks, appreciate the feedback. Please tell me how you can tell it's fake?
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Old 5 December 2019, 09:26 PM   #10
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Thanks, appreciate the feedback. Please tell me how you can tell it's fake?
Serious? Go into a shop and look and feel a real one, that is Chinese junk.
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Old 5 December 2019, 10:58 PM   #11
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You've owned this watch since 2009? For 10 years you've been wearing a fake watch. I'd be embarrassed about that.
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Old 5 December 2019, 11:01 PM   #12
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This is what I've found to be a match online:

Rolex DateJust 18K President Diamond Dial And Bezel Midsize Ladies Watch

Thanks, appreciate the feedback. Please tell me how you can tell it's fake?
If you actually looked for an image online and compared the two you would not be asking but I suspect you wont return to this thread.
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Old 6 December 2019, 12:05 AM   #13
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Thanks, appreciate the feedback. Please tell me how you can tell it's fake?
TRF is not an authentication service.
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Old 7 December 2019, 11:49 AM   #14
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Old 7 December 2019, 12:08 PM   #15
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Can you provide a better photo of the black scuff? Rolex uses a special formula for the black scuff. The photo would help authenticate the watch.
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Old 7 December 2019, 12:10 PM   #16
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Can you provide a better photo of the black scuff? Rolex uses a special formula for the black scuff. The photo would help authenticate the watch.


Still thinking maybe this watch isn’t the worst fake in the history of fakes?


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Old 7 December 2019, 03:41 PM   #17
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I have owned this watch since 2009-2010, it was purchased from a second hand store.
I'm unsure of its originality so i'm seeking advice from persons with watch experience.
Your feedback is extremely welcome. I'd like to know if it's worth further exploration to determine if it is genuine.

DETAILS: It's missing the (cyclops) and also the Rolex symbol/badge on the clasp join, although there is black scuff marks to possibly say it was once in place. I notice the bezel is off center. It feels quite weighty and has a smooth continuous rotating second hand.

This is what I've found to be a match online:

Rolex DateJust 18K President Diamond Dial And Bezel Midsize Ladies Watch

Ref# 68258
SKU - R0226193A

Kind regards, Ashlea
Please tell us where this info came from.

In all seriousness, its a fake as others said.
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Old 7 December 2019, 04:01 PM   #18
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Please tell us where this info came from.
Grandad said so
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Old 8 December 2019, 05:55 AM   #19
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You've owned this watch since 2009? For 10 years you've been wearing a fake watch. I'd be embarrassed about that.
Maybe you would, but the OP, is not an expert like you, nor are millions of others.
They come here for help, not to be put down.

Lets act politely
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Old 8 December 2019, 06:25 AM   #20
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Maybe you would, but the OP, is not an expert like you, nor are millions of others.
They come here for help, not to be put down.

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No need to scold me Adam.....The OP knew there was a problem or they wouldn't have said they had owned it for TEN years and just now want to know if it is fake.
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Old 8 December 2019, 06:29 AM   #21
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The OP knew there was a problem or they wouldn't have said they had owned it for TEN years and just now want to know if it is fake.
REALLY
I have seen and heard of very intelligent, professional people who bought fakes and wore them for years, before posting on forums and learning (sadly) they were fakes.

I just see no reason to be impolite.
Not everyone can immediately distinguish the genuine from the replica.
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Old 8 December 2019, 07:35 AM   #22
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REALLY
I have seen and heard of very intelligent, professional people who bought fakes and wore them for years, before posting on forums and learning (sadly) they were fakes.

I just see no reason to be impolite.
Not everyone can immediately distinguish the genuine from the replica.
Its not a replica, its a fake
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Old 8 December 2019, 08:41 AM   #23
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Yeah nasty. Almost like an effort was made to get it awfully wrong looking. Incredible really. I have a hard time believing this came from anywhere decent.
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Old 8 December 2019, 09:04 AM   #24
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Its not a replica, its a fake
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Yeah nasty. Almost like an effort was made to get it awfully wrong looking. Incredible really. I have a hard time believing this came from anywhere decent.
I think whoever made this asked his R&D team for a list of the things Rolex is famous for:

1. Solid gold - check!
2. Diamond bezel - check!
3. President bracelet - check!
4. Hidden clasp - check!
5. Woman’s size - check!

Put them together and viola! This watch!
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Old 8 December 2019, 10:15 AM   #26
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I think whoever made this asked his R&D team for a list of the things Rolex is famous for:

1. Solid gold - check!
2. Diamond bezel - check!
3. President bracelet - check!

4. Hidden clasp - check!
5. Woman’s size - check!

Put them together and viola! This watch!
I don't think they were quite sure how to do a President.
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Old 8 December 2019, 01:37 PM   #27
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Maybe you would, but the OP, is not an expert like you, nor are millions of others.
They come here for help, not to be put down.

Lets act politely
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Thank you Gladiator. I'm a recently new member... really 0 experience in watches. I'm in the early stages of buying my first Rolex... meaning I'm here to learn. Initially I thought I hit the jackpot with this site and all the learning I could do. But the more I read, it seems like most of it is egotistical members insulting those who are trying to learn.... I appreciate you as a moderator trying to bring the site back to being educational.
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Thank you Gladiator. I'm a recently new member... really 0 experience in watches. I'm in the early stages of buying my first Rolex... meaning I'm here to learn. Initially I thought I hit the jackpot with this site and all the learning I could do. But the more I read, it seems like most of it is egotistical members insulting those who are trying to learn.... I appreciate you as a moderator trying to bring the site back to being educational.
As per the forum rules, the forum is certainly not supposed to be educational or about learning when it comes to fakes.

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THIS IS NOT A FORUM FOR THE DISCUSSION OF FAKE WATCHES, BRACELETS ETC, and your opinion are about FAKE WATCHES and who makes them, sells them, buys them and wears them is NOT welcome.
This section of the forum is frequented by trolls and scammers. The established forum members who read and post here are used to seeing one-post wonders who open up by posting a watch that is so obviously fake it could be identified as such with a few minutes research on Google. Then comes a second post asking “how do you know it’s fake?” Following this we generally get tumbleweed from the OP. This OP might be genuine, but his/her post follows a pattern that invites doubt.

I’m not trying to condone being rude to anyone - my personal line is drawn at “sardonic humour” - merely trying to explain why some react in a less than welcoming way when seeing threads like this.
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Old 9 December 2019, 04:48 AM   #29
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Thank you Gladiator. I'm a recently new member... really 0 experience in watches. I'm in the early stages of buying my first Rolex... meaning I'm here to learn. Initially I thought I hit the jackpot with this site and all the learning I could do. But the more I read, it seems like most of it is egotistical members insulting those who are trying to learn.... I appreciate you as a moderator trying to bring the site back to being educational.
Sadly - I am no moderator.
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