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Mosco · 26 February 2009, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Jedi

VC and AP never closed their doors, they were simply swallowed up by Richemont, but that in itself is part of the history of the brands no?...

On the Breguet issue, it's more contentious, depending on which source one takes information from, but I am inclined towards the bit about them needing a wholesale revival, which is different from being bought over.

Breguet didn't close their doors either!

The needed distribution revival in United States only, but not altogether as a manufacture. And yes - quartz hurt every manufacturer, there is nothing wrong with getting their pockets deepened by Swatch Group.

By the way, there are talks of AP being bought by the LVHM Luxury Group - do you think it will happen?

stusrt · 26 February 2009, 02:44 AM

the wall street crooks are buying patek with our bail-out money,
or should I say bonus?

Mosco · 26 February 2009, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by stusrt

the wall street crooks are buying patek with our bail-out money,
or should I say bonus?

Yeah, how

ty is that huh? Who are the real criminals?

Jedi · 26 February 2009, 12:54 PM

I'm now finding myself strangely drawn to the BReguet brand.... hmmm...

Mosco · 26 February 2009, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jedi

I'm now finding myself strangely drawn to the BReguet brand.... hmmm...

Yessssssssssssssssssssssss!

Be careful, because there is no turning back

They're SO beautiful....

unknown · 27 February 2009, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Mosco

With all due respect, I have to add Breguet to the Big Three, making it a Big Four. It meets the criteria of deep heritage, in-house movements, exclusive and small distribution, and uber-complications. Not to mention, in my recent experience, Breguet almost across the board (with the exception of Type XX) has seen minimal discounts, less than many other brands, meaning it holds excellent value.

I don't think so.
A breguet drops 50% the minute you walk out the store and they are easy to get with a 20-25% discount. very easy

clew84 · 27 February 2009, 03:52 AM

Pretty sure I might sell a kidney or at least a couple of watches (besides my Rolex) for this watch:

Mosco · 27 February 2009, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by clew84

Pretty sure I might sell a kidney or at least a couple of watches (besides my Rolex) for this watch:

Just need to know in case I need a kidney - fresh pic!

boa2 · 27 February 2009, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Jedi

I'm now finding myself strangely drawn to the BReguet brand.... hmmm...

I went to the NYC boutique last week, and tried on a number of watches. They are all quite beautiful, and Breguet should be commended for so effectively showcasing the beautiful aesthetic of the brand throughout the entire model line-up. I'm particularly drawn to the Marine for a daily wearer. I will say, however, with respect to its standing amongst all manufacturers, I find PP, VC, AP (and Lange) to have a noticeably higher level of finishing. If it isn't obvious, I absolutely love Breguet. It's just that I would not consider them to be at the level of these other brands.

Just my opinion, of course.

boa2 · 27 February 2009, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Mosco

Just need to know in case I need a kidney - fresh pic!

Stunning watch, Mosco!

Mosco · 27 February 2009, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by boa2

Stunning watch, Mosco!

Thanks!

You have to remember - the biggest market for Breguet is in Europe, so US does not get the absolute best pieces. Moscow, in particular, but also Paris and Geneva have amazing Breguet boutiques that actually have the nicer pieces. And the finish is definitely up par on those. Check out Breguet.ch - it is absolutely amazing!

If you pick up a lower-level Patek, say a simple Gondolo, the finish on it isn't anywhere near the finish on the Sky-Moon, wouldn't you agree?

DSJ · 27 February 2009, 04:33 AM

I never really looked at A Lange until our GTG with DoxaDavid and TerryNewton - they are truly stunning and their quality is TOP NOTCH.

clew84 · 27 February 2009, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Mosco

Just need to know in case I need a kidney - fresh pic!

Okay, I may have to have that watch. What do you need? Car? An 8 year old golden retriever? A couple of older cell phones?

Seriously - that is an amazing looking watch, especially in that pic.

Mosco · 27 February 2009, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by clew84

Okay, I may have to have that watch. What do you need? Car? An 8 year old golden retriever? A couple of older cell phones?

Seriously - that is an amazing looking watch, especially in that pic.

Thanks for your generous offers

I am holding on to this one, it is by far my favorite piece!

boa2 · 27 February 2009, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mosco

Thanks!

You have to remember - the biggest market for Breguet is in Europe, so US does not get the absolute best pieces. Moscow, in particular, but also Paris and Geneva have amazing Breguet boutiques that actually have the nicer pieces. And the finish is definitely up par on those. Check out Breguet.ch - it is absolutely amazing!

I've been to a number of stores in Europe as well. The boutique here in NYC had some mighty fine pieces, including a beautiful array of tourbillons.

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If you pick up a lower-level Patek, say a simple Gondolo, the finish on it isn't anywhere near the finish on the Sky-Moon, wouldn't you agree?

Sure. I'm just thinking of a Breguet 5817 vs. an AP 15300, for example. Or a Breguet 5237 vs. a VC Malte Chronograph. Or a Breguet perpetual vs. a PP 5059. I'm not alone in noting a big difference in complexity and finish between the formers and the latters.

I think it's difficult to make conclusive generalizations across an entire brand's range, but at the same time, I've heard very few collectors or watchmakers place Breguet at the same level as PP, VC, AP or Lange. On this issue, I'm deferring to Philipe Dufour...who wears a Lange.

I6-S54B32 · 27 February 2009, 07:28 AM

I think there is no one to one correlation between expensive watches, just as high-end sports cars. I've driven through neighborhoods with $5M+ dollar homes, and I've seen everything from Porsches to POS minivans and Ford trucks. I think a lot of it is what you enjoy, like the guy next door who has a $25K audio system and a 997 911S, and yet wears a Casio.

Zman86 · 27 February 2009, 10:04 AM

One of my dream watches is a PP 5124G. It might actually be within my grasp one day also, although I dont know where I'd wear it...

AIKO · 27 February 2009, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by frostie

I had this funny idea after I checked a Patek pricelist

Patek's are sooooo DAMN expensive and servicing a Patek is even worse

So any ideas ?

They write the checks to Rolex owners.

There is rich and there is wealthy.

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