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ilikebond · 18 July 2016, 02:50 PM

I spotted this on Watchrecon. I know nothing about the seller, he claims to have "plenty of references," and claims to be selling a single red Seadweller he bought from his neighbor, for $75k.

Looks really good, and incredible apparent condition, but I compared to a sale of a known example (which, apparently, there are only 5 known examples?), and believe the crown is too elongated and the Swiss mark is too small, and too near rehaut, cutting off minute ticks at bottom.

Also, I believe these go for $250-$400k, so "too good to be true," especially in that condition.

Agree? Disagree?

Questioned Listing

Kiaraff · 18 July 2016, 05:30 PM

Fake case and dial! Just Google his nickname.

freefly · 18 July 2016, 05:46 PM

Yeah, not even close.

dysondiver · 18 July 2016, 06:35 PM

well spotted

crowncollection · 18 July 2016, 06:38 PM

Please lol

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tinygears · 18 July 2016, 07:11 PM

If I'm reading the orig ad correctly, he seems to be offering a real Rolex movement, but strangely, makes no claim to authenticity of the case or dial.

Wording is interesting. Must wonder if his neighbor has more?

offrdmania · 18 July 2016, 11:28 PM

When I see a "vintage" case with no bracelet marks between the lugs I get very suspicious. A quick google search and his screen name comes up in all of the replica forums.

Cryten · 19 July 2016, 12:31 AM

Perhaps the "New York Billionare" J. Darious Bikoff could use this advert as evidence in his claim that he paid too much when James Dowling sold him one for $395,000.

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=485275

Wesley Crusher · 19 July 2016, 12:37 AM

Turd watch and turd seller.

I bet his neighbor is also his grandfather.

BuyTime.NYC · 28 July 2016, 01:40 AM

Why is this guy not banned for trying to defraud and cheat people ? Ok maybe thats extreme, but the posting should be atleast closed and the users alerted.
Is watchuseek always this lax ?

77T · 28 July 2016, 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuyTime.NYC

Why is this guy not banned for trying to defraud and cheat people ? Ok maybe thats extreme, but the posting should be atleast closed and the users alerted.

Is watchuseek always this lax ?

Wouldn't their Mods need to know to take any action?
Besides commenting here, someone would need to report it...

Kiaraff · 28 July 2016, 08:20 AM

Topic is deleted, like a week ago.

18 July 2016, 02:50 PM	#1
ilikebond "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: San Diego Watch: 116619LB Posts: 79	$75k Watchout! - Claimed Single Red Seadweller I spotted this on Watchrecon. I know nothing about the seller, he claims to have "plenty of references," and claims to be selling a single red Seadweller he bought from his neighbor, for $75k. Looks really good, and incredible apparent condition, but I compared to a sale of a known example (which, apparently, there are only 5 known examples?), and believe the crown is too elongated and the Swiss mark is too small, and too near rehaut, cutting off minute ticks at bottom. Also, I believe these go for $250-$400k, so "too good to be true," especially in that condition. Agree? Disagree? Questioned Listing

18 July 2016, 06:38 PM	#5
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,159	Please lol Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ watches many

18 July 2016, 11:28 PM	#7
offrdmania 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 X2 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Wine Country, Ca Posts: 5,860	When I see a "vintage" case with no bracelet marks between the lugs I get very suspicious. A quick google search and his screen name comes up in all of the replica forums. __________________ TRF Member 11738

18 July 2016, 05:30 PM	#2
Kiaraff "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Antwerp - Belgium Posts: 116	Fake case and dial! Just Google his nickname.

18 July 2016, 05:46 PM	#3
freefly "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Eric Location: AZ Watch: 4&5-digit Sub/GMTs Posts: 1,974	Yeah, not even close.

18 July 2016, 06:35 PM	#4
dysondiver "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: tom Location: northern ireland Watch: my fins Posts: 10,063	well spotted

18 July 2016, 07:11 PM	#6
tinygears "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: LA Posts: 140	If I'm reading the orig ad correctly, he seems to be offering a real Rolex movement, but strangely, makes no claim to authenticity of the case or dial. Wording is interesting. Must wonder if his neighbor has more?

19 July 2016, 12:31 AM	#8
Cryten "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Terrafirma Posts: 2,655	Perhaps the "New York Billionare" J. Darious Bikoff could use this advert as evidence in his claim that he paid too much when James Dowling sold him one for $395,000. http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=485275

19 July 2016, 12:37 AM	#9
Wesley Crusher "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Wes Location: Holosuite Posts: 6,345	Turd watch and turd seller. I bet his neighbor is also his grandfather.

28 July 2016, 01:40 AM	#10
BuyTime.NYC "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Manhattan Posts: 3	Why is this guy not banned for trying to defraud and cheat people ? Ok maybe thats extreme, but the posting should be atleast closed and the users alerted. Is watchuseek always this lax ?

28 July 2016, 08:20 AM	#12
Kiaraff "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Antwerp - Belgium Posts: 116	Topic is deleted, like a week ago.

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