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pav333hp · 28 March 2020, 06:13 AM

Good reminder about shipping scam alert around people saying they are not receiving the watch. Good quick 2 min video.

TLDR: if you are a private seller, DON'T use PayPal as payment method. Wire / bank transfer only.

https://youtu.be/FrieOOOVPIk

brmott · 29 March 2020, 05:19 AM

Thanks for posting. Sound advice.

Abmatt2002 · 29 March 2020, 05:51 AM

Cheers

crowncollection · 29 March 2020, 05:54 AM

Good to know thanks

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GGGMT · 29 March 2020, 06:18 AM

Appreciated!

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Doc Savage · 29 March 2020, 06:32 AM

Great reminder.

freefly · 29 March 2020, 06:44 AM

Yep, too many fraudulent buyers out there to ever consider accepting PayPal as a seller, IMO. The "empty box" claim and the "swap in a fake" seem to be the most prevalent buyer scams.
And for those who think that taking a video of you packing/shipping the watch will save you, it typically won't (as reported by scammed sellers who did so). Sellers beware...

swaini3 · 29 March 2020, 08:58 AM

For what its worth, heres an older one that people need to be aware of too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQeNW60VpIw

jvmartin · 29 March 2020, 02:45 PM

FedEx is still requiring signature for "Adult Signature Required" packages... at least for the time being

Tony64 · 30 March 2020, 01:28 AM

To summarize what I've learned on TRF:

1. Sellers - "Don't accept PayPal, insist on a wire transfer"
2. Buyers - "Don't send a wire transfer, always insist on PayPal"

GGGMT · 30 March 2020, 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony64

To summarize what I've learned on TRF:

1. Sellers - "Don't accept PayPal, insist on a wire transfer"
2. Buyers - "Don't send a wire transfer, always insist on PayPal"

This is really funny! Nice

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swaini3 · 30 March 2020, 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony64

To summarize what I've learned on TRF:

1. Sellers - "Don't accept PayPal, insist on a wire transfer"
2. Buyers - "Don't send a wire transfer, always insist on PayPal"

Lol, true.

CorradoBrit · 30 March 2020, 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony64

To summarize what I've learned on TRF:

1. Sellers - "Don't accept PayPal, insist on a wire transfer"
2. Buyers - "Don't send a wire transfer, always insist on PayPal"

I've learned a little more. Only deal with reputable sellers. Verify, verify and verify again. I have no issues wiring funds to well known trusted sellers who stand behind their reputations.

freefly · 30 March 2020, 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CorradoBrit

I've learned a little more. Only deal with reputable sellers. Verify, verify and verify again. I have no issues wiring funds to well known trusted sellers who stand behind their reputations.

+1

And to amend Tony's post above, I would personally avoid PayPal whenever possible, even as a buyer.
If you do use them for a purchase, do so via credit card (and not from your PayPal balance and/or bank account transfer). YMMV.

pav333hp · 30 March 2020, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CorradoBrit

I've learned a little more. Only deal with reputable sellers. Verify, verify and verify again. I have no issues wiring funds to well known trusted sellers who stand behind their reputations.

Yeah, very true :). Lots of people getting scammed via PayPal, my self included a few years ago so I try to limit as much as possible paying with PayPal.

oscarrod · 31 March 2020, 02:28 AM

Thanks

mmmmp · 31 March 2020, 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swaini3

For what its worth, heres an older one that people need to be aware of too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQeNW60VpIw

Thanks for posting guys. This older variation was especially interesting. It's stories like these that reinforce my reluctance to buy high ticket items on Ebay. Although brick and mortar stores are probably 'okay', I personally need to inspect a watch before buying.

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dnpina · 2 April 2020, 11:27 PM

I tried to sell a relatively inexpensive watch recently. My inbox was completely full of scammers. Just exhausting. It was easier for me just to keep it.

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swaini3 · 3 April 2020, 03:01 AM

Yea...Unfortunately, its difficult nowadays with every scammer trying to work around loopholes etc. I hope some genius would come up with a bulletproof method.

Benzsiam · 3 April 2020, 07:31 AM

This is one of the main reason that why I dare not buy/sale expensive items on internet.

michael067 · 19 April 2020, 03:00 PM

Good info

28 March 2020, 06:13 AM	#1
pav333hp "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: USA Posts: 565	Shipping Scam Alert Good reminder about shipping scam alert around people saying they are not receiving the watch. Good quick 2 min video. TLDR: if you are a private seller, DON'T use PayPal as payment method. Wire / bank transfer only. https://youtu.be/FrieOOOVPIk

29 March 2020, 05:54 AM	#4
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,157	Good to know thanks Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ watches many

29 March 2020, 06:32 AM	#6
Doc Savage 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Real Name: Bill Location: Indiana Watch: Submariner 124060 Posts: 6,637	Great reminder. __________________ “The real problem of humanity is we have Paleolithic emotions, medieval institutions, and godlike technology.” -Edward O. Wilson

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29 March 2020, 05:19 AM	#2
brmott "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Real Name: Bryan Location: Tulsa, OK Watch: Rolex SubC Posts: 159	Thanks for posting. Sound advice.

29 March 2020, 05:51 AM	#3
Abmatt2002 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: UK Watch: 126300 Posts: 239	Cheers

29 March 2020, 06:18 AM	#5
GGGMT 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Itinerant Watch: 79010sg Posts: 8,018	Appreciated! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

29 March 2020, 06:44 AM	#7
freefly "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Eric Location: AZ Watch: 4&5-digit Sub/GMTs Posts: 1,974	Yep, too many fraudulent buyers out there to ever consider accepting PayPal as a seller, IMO. The "empty box" claim and the "swap in a fake" seem to be the most prevalent buyer scams. And for those who think that taking a video of you packing/shipping the watch will save you, it typically won't (as reported by scammed sellers who did so). Sellers beware...

29 March 2020, 08:58 AM	#8
swaini3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Real Name: Mo Location: Dubai Watch: 1675 GMT, DRSD Posts: 1,432	For what its worth, heres an older one that people need to be aware of too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQeNW60VpIw

29 March 2020, 02:45 PM	#9
jvmartin "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,349	FedEx is still requiring signature for "Adult Signature Required" packages... at least for the time being

30 March 2020, 01:28 AM	#10
Tony64 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 2,796	To summarize what I've learned on TRF: 1. Sellers - "Don't accept PayPal, insist on a wire transfer" 2. Buyers - "Don't send a wire transfer, always insist on PayPal"

31 March 2020, 02:28 AM	#16
oscarrod "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Deltona FLR Posts: 1	Thanks

2 April 2020, 11:27 PM	#18
dnpina Banned Join Date: May 2009 Location: texas Watch: 126610 LV Posts: 1,529	I tried to sell a relatively inexpensive watch recently. My inbox was completely full of scammers. Just exhausting. It was easier for me just to keep it. Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

3 April 2020, 03:01 AM	#19
swaini3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Real Name: Mo Location: Dubai Watch: 1675 GMT, DRSD Posts: 1,432	Yea...Unfortunately, its difficult nowadays with every scammer trying to work around loopholes etc. I hope some genius would come up with a bulletproof method.

3 April 2020, 07:31 AM	#20
Benzsiam 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: USA Watch: Rolex/AP/PP/ALS Posts: 5,915	This is one of the main reason that why I dare not buy/sale expensive items on internet.

19 April 2020, 03:00 PM	#21
michael067 Banned Join Date: Feb 2016 Real Name: Mike Location: Las Vegas Watch: TT DJ 16233 Posts: 1,002	Good info

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