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gt.gee · 2 April 2020, 04:41 PM

Hi All,

I'm new here and would like all the expertise on this GMT 1675 if I should grab it. Pictures are from my local private seller.

Thanks in advance,
G

BiG JeEzY · 2 April 2020, 04:54 PM

The dial and bezel look like aftermarket parts to me. The bezel looks like a "hooked 2" bezel. On the dial, the dots at the top of the coronet look a little large. Also what looks off to me are the minute markers going around the edge of the dial. They look shorter than normal. Other experts should chime in with some pictures.

alwayshere · 2 April 2020, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BiG JeEzY

The dial and bezel look like aftermarket parts to me. The bezel looks like a "hooked 2" bezel. On the dial, the circles at the top of the coronet look a little large. Also what looks off to me are the minute markers going around the edge of the dial. They look shorter than normal. Other experts should chime in with some pictures.

agree with this assessment - the dial looks odd, so does the crown.

gt.gee · 2 April 2020, 05:13 PM

Thank you sir, much appreciated your help. :)

BiG JeEzY · 2 April 2020, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gt.gee

Thank you sir, much appreciated your help. :)

You're welcome. Just being honest, but it is very difficult to trust many vintage watches there in Thailand where you are. Many of them are genuine but with aftermarket parts put on like this one. All original examples are out there, but you will have to really search for them. Anyways welcome to the forums.

gt.gee · 2 April 2020, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BiG JeEzY

You're welcome. Just being honest, but it is very difficult to trust many vintage watches there in Thailand where you are. Many of them are genuine but with aftermarket parts put on like this one. All original examples are out there, but you will have to really search for them. Anyways welcome to the forums.

Thanks again, and I have alreadys learned the hard way.

Hope you all stay safe and healthy.

1675-David · 2 April 2020, 07:11 PM

the case is also fake.

charlitos · 2 April 2020, 09:35 PM

I'm not an expert but I think:

Fake case and insert.
Refinished or fake dial.

1watch · 3 April 2020, 12:51 AM

Run away from that and look for a dealer or seller recommended on this site.

TimeLord2 · 3 April 2020, 01:13 AM

I've never seen such a high gloss on the serial numbers between the lugs. And, then there are all the other things that have already been pointed out. Welcome to the forum.

zapokee · 3 April 2020, 02:01 AM

I was thinking "Oh god, no" even before I read everyone else's comments.

AJMarcus · 3 April 2020, 02:39 AM

TRF provides another public service.

rootbeer7 · 3 April 2020, 02:43 AM

never seen an 'E' like that!!

swaini3 · 3 April 2020, 02:44 AM

Well done for screening it here before the purchase. Lots of help from members.

gt.gee · 3 April 2020, 11:51 AM

Thank you all for your comments and suggestions, be safe and bless all.

twnturbo · 3 April 2020, 02:44 PM

The red 24 hr hand jumped out at me just looks to big

Vincent65 · 3 April 2020, 10:49 PM

Run

Rebel · 3 April 2020, 11:39 PM

Run Forrest, run!

Cutiger1 · 2 May 2020, 01:59 PM

Hi guys. I want to get your opinion on this watch. Seller is asking $9k. Year is 1972. Bezel looks too clean to be original but I am not an expert. Here are some pictures. I apologize for the low quality pictures. What else should I be on the lookout for?

rootbeer7 · 2 May 2020, 05:28 PM

Impossible to tell from those images. Is the watch on sale from a legitimate business?

Andad · 2 May 2020, 05:38 PM

Why have this question on two threads cutiger?

Cutiger1 · 2 May 2020, 10:02 PM

Yes, the seller is legitimate. He said if I have it inspected and it’s not what I thought I can return no questions asked. Sorry about the pictures, they weren’t the best to start and I am new to posting. I am going today to get some additional and better pics.

Pocosso · 3 May 2020, 12:04 AM

Someone said "Run Forrest Run!", I agree.
Bezel insert is aftermarket, probably bezel too. The case is extremely polished, look at the lugs, the top left has a differente shape than the top right.
Dial is very weird. I do not see anything interesting on this watch. If you buy it cheap, you may take it as a good project, but this days it will cost yo a fortune to get the correct part to bring it at a decent level. Case back for a Long E should have the Year Quarter Number (I/71, II/71). I would skip this.

Dan S · 3 May 2020, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Cutiger1

What else should I be on the lookout for?

A price that is too good to be true.

Erpin · 8 May 2020, 10:52 PM

Dial is too clean and the bezel insert numbers are too big. Run away from it.

barneb10 · 8 May 2020, 10:56 PM

Lots of issues everywhere. Don't waste your money.

gt.gee · 13 May 2020, 02:17 PM

Hi Guys,

Hope you are all well and healthy. I'm back with another GMT piece that I would love to inquire if it is real.

Much appreciated in advance for any comments and suggestions.

Be well all...

*Seller noted 5 million serial number*

gt.gee · 15 May 2020, 02:40 PM

Anyone?

Paulie 50 · 15 May 2020, 07:50 PM

Do your homework.

2 April 2020, 04:54 PM	#2
BiG JeEzY "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Jerome Location: N. California Watch: GMT I/EXP II/DJ Posts: 3,350	The dial and bezel look like aftermarket parts to me. The bezel looks like a "hooked 2" bezel. On the dial, the dots at the top of the coronet look a little large. Also what looks off to me are the minute markers going around the edge of the dial. They look shorter than normal. Other experts should chime in with some pictures. __________________ -Rolex Explorer II Black dial 16570 (circa 2001) -Rolex GMT Master I Pepsi 1675 (circa 1978) -Rolex Datejust TT Champagne 16233 (circa 1991) -Vintage Longines Automatic La Grande Classique -Vintage Seiko 6138 Automatic Chronograph with "Kakume" Dial

3 April 2020, 02:43 AM	#13
rootbeer7 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: london Posts: 5,959	never seen an 'E' like that!! __________________ @imrootbeer7

3 April 2020, 02:44 PM	#16
twnturbo "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: SoCal Watch: 1675 GMT/1680 MKIV Posts: 319	The red 24 hr hand jumped out at me just looks to big __________________ Rolex 1680 Red Submariner MKIV Full set Rolex 1675 Pepsi GMT Full set Rolex 1675 GMT Radial dial Full set TAG Heuer Carrera Chronograph Day Date Bell & Ross BR03-92

3 April 2020, 10:49 PM	#17
Vincent65 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Switzerland Posts: 14,293	Run __________________

3 April 2020, 11:39 PM	#18
Rebel "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Dr Mark R Nail Location: New Albany Watch: Tudor Sub 75090 Posts: 8,057	Run Forrest, run! __________________ ------------------------------- Member of the Nylon Nation

2 April 2020, 05:13 PM	#4
gt.gee "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 13	Thank you sir, much appreciated your help. :)

2 April 2020, 07:11 PM	#7
1675-David "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Stockholm Posts: 6,014	the case is also fake.

2 April 2020, 09:35 PM	#8
charlitos "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: España Posts: 179	I'm not an expert but I think: Fake case and insert. Refinished or fake dial.

3 April 2020, 12:51 AM	#9
1watch "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: US Posts: 657	Run away from that and look for a dealer or seller recommended on this site.

3 April 2020, 01:13 AM	#10
TimeLord2 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Valencia, CA Watch: GMT Master 1675/3 Posts: 2,046	I've never seen such a high gloss on the serial numbers between the lugs. And, then there are all the other things that have already been pointed out. Welcome to the forum.

3 April 2020, 02:01 AM	#11
zapokee "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Japan Posts: 4,344	I was thinking "Oh god, no" even before I read everyone else's comments.

3 April 2020, 02:39 AM	#12
AJMarcus "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: AJ Location: USA Watch: Swiss Posts: 5,205	TRF provides another public service.

3 April 2020, 02:44 AM	#14
swaini3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Real Name: Mo Location: Dubai Watch: 1675 GMT, DRSD Posts: 1,432	Well done for screening it here before the purchase. Lots of help from members.

3 April 2020, 11:51 AM	#15
gt.gee "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 13	Thank you all for your comments and suggestions, be safe and bless all.

2 May 2020, 05:28 PM	#20
rootbeer7 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: london Posts: 5,959	Impossible to tell from those images. Is the watch on sale from a legitimate business? __________________ @imrootbeer7

2 May 2020, 05:38 PM	#21
Andad 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 36,797	Why have this question on two threads cutiger? __________________ E

2 May 2020, 10:02 PM	#22
Cutiger1 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Simpsonville SC Posts: 8	Yes, the seller is legitimate. He said if I have it inspected and it’s not what I thought I can return no questions asked. Sorry about the pictures, they weren’t the best to start and I am new to posting. I am going today to get some additional and better pics.

3 May 2020, 12:04 AM	#23
Pocosso "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Real Name: Davide Location: Italy Watch: RO/ROO/PAM/DAYTONA Posts: 402	Someone said "Run Forrest Run!", I agree. Bezel insert is aftermarket, probably bezel too. The case is extremely polished, look at the lugs, the top left has a differente shape than the top right. Dial is very weird. I do not see anything interesting on this watch. If you buy it cheap, you may take it as a good project, but this days it will cost yo a fortune to get the correct part to bring it at a decent level. Case back for a Long E should have the Year Quarter Number (I/71, II/71). I would skip this. __________________ 5167-5711 6217-8001 16520A-16520E-16500-116610LV-166710LN-16760-16030-16570T- ROO(Ti)-RO-ROC PAN0055-PAM351-PAM733-PAM721 Type XX-XXI

8 May 2020, 10:52 PM	#25
Erpin "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Real Name: Eric Location: Philippines Watch: Rolex DRSD Posts: 663	Dial is too clean and the bezel insert numbers are too big. Run away from it.

8 May 2020, 10:56 PM	#26
barneb10 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: USA Posts: 379	Lots of issues everywhere. Don't waste your money.

15 May 2020, 02:40 PM	#28
gt.gee "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 13	Anyone?

15 May 2020, 07:50 PM	#29
Paulie 50 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Lancs. England Posts: 993	Do your homework.

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