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Old 23 March 2017, 05:54 PM   #1
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Icon20 The new seadweller is pants !

I've just seen pics of the new seadweller and I Carnt believe my eyes !
What have they done , the 43mm case is way too big and the date magnification bubble ? On a seadweller ? Oh my lord it just looks like a bamford watch ! History and heritage thrown down the pan ! Was it that hard to make a 50th anniversary watch ! No just change the dial by adding red writing like the the old double red seadwellers , nothing more nothing less .

Well done Rolex for a disasterious watch ! And you probly cost bamford a fortune in the making !
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Old 23 March 2017, 06:01 PM   #2
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...so Gary when you getting one?! lol
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Old 23 March 2017, 06:02 PM   #3
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Completely wrong my friend. Disastrous for us WIS, brilliant for Rolex and the legions of customers who just want a 'Rolex' dive watch.
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Old 23 March 2017, 06:22 PM   #4
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I prefer it to the DSSD personally.
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Old 23 March 2017, 06:24 PM   #5
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Someone who wants a DSSD can now get a SD43.
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Old 23 March 2017, 06:31 PM   #6
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I've just seen pics of the new seadweller and I Carnt believe my eyes !
What have they done , the 43mm case is way too big and the date magnification bubble ? On a seadweller ? Oh my lord it just looks like a bamford watch ! History and heritage thrown down the pan ! Was it that hard to make a 50th anniversary watch ! No just change the dial by adding red writing like the the old double red seadwellers , nothing more nothing less .

Well done Rolex for a disasterious watch ! And you probly cost bamford a fortune in the making !
a sad day for purists
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Old 23 March 2017, 06:35 PM   #7
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Completely wrong my friend. Disastrous for us WIS, brilliant for Rolex and the legions of customers who just want a 'Rolex' dive watch.
Said exactly the same thing when the rumours pics came out. The general public will love this watch. It's bigger which a lot of people yearn for and it has the Rolex cyclops.

They don't care about the history they are buying what they think is the best watch in the world and a status symbol !!
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Old 23 March 2017, 07:02 PM   #8
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I prefer it to the DSSD personally.
As a DSSD owner, I'd have to agree.
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Old 23 March 2017, 07:24 PM   #9
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So we have the Size Police doing the rounds and the Cyclops Police. Its simple, if you don't like the size or the Cyclops, don't buy it. This will sell like hotcakes regardless and know doubt in the UK sold above recommended price.
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Old 23 March 2017, 07:29 PM   #10
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It is a great watch imho.
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Old 23 March 2017, 08:00 PM   #11
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I'm not a purist. I like the new SeaDweller. The SubC looked too much like my BLNR. The old SeaDweller had a date, but it was hard for me to read. The DeepSea was way too big for my wrist. When availability becomes realistic, I will go shopping.
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Old 23 March 2017, 08:02 PM   #12
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Old 23 March 2017, 08:05 PM   #13
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Was the CEO of Rolex not quoted as saying "we don't sell watches, we sell luxury" when originally asked if he was scared of the Apple Watch taking sales away before it launched? Based on the new SD I'm tempted to believe the quote.
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Old 23 March 2017, 08:07 PM   #14
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Strange that the OP thinks 43mm is way too big but he owns a Deepsea.
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Old 23 March 2017, 08:13 PM   #15
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It is still better than the DSSD (can one watch have *too much* crap inscribed on it?).
But is is still not a very good idea for us connaisseurs.
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Old 23 March 2017, 08:18 PM   #16
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On a positive note have a look at the 2017 models omega have brought out especially the 1957 trilogy limited edition speedmasters ! That's how it should be done ! Total class !
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Old 23 March 2017, 08:18 PM   #17
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Old 23 March 2017, 08:21 PM   #18
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Rolex need a good hard look at themselfs and get back to basics less is more ! Simplicity is the key we all love
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Old 23 March 2017, 08:23 PM   #19
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It is still better than the DSSD (can one watch have *too much* crap inscribed on it?).
But is is still not a very good idea for us connaisseurs.
Your right the original ring lock enscription is total rubbish on the Deepsea ! Why ??? Keep it honest
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Old 23 March 2017, 08:24 PM   #20
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I'm anti cyclops on a SD. Kills it for me.
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Old 23 March 2017, 08:24 PM   #21
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Was the CEO of Rolex not quoted as saying "we don't sell watches, we sell luxury" when originally asked if he was scared of the Apple Watch taking sales away before it launched? Based on the new SD I'm tempted to believe the quote.
Same here - clearly Rolex are focussed on maintaining a high demand for a prestige product and they carefully market that product with great success. Their focus appears to be forward looking presumably in terms of sales, and any need to adhere to their past toolwatch days will probably continue to diminish.....not really good news for the purists?
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Old 23 March 2017, 08:28 PM   #22
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Same here - clearly Rolex are focussed on maintaining a high demand for a prestige product and they carefully market that product with great success. Their focus appears to be forward looking presumably in terms of sales, and any need to adhere to their past toolwatch days will probably continue to diminish.....not really good news for the purists?
You sure don't ! Is she for sale ?
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Old 29 March 2017, 05:15 AM   #23
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Was it that hard to make a 50th anniversary watch ! No just change the dial by adding red writing like the the old double red seadwellers , nothing more nothing less .
If they would have done that, I would be writing a rant like yours but for opposite reasons. I applaud Rolex for FINALLY having some balls and not playing it safe by simply slapping some red text on the dial and calling it a "new" SD.

The SD has been the perfect candidate since 2008 for change and offering something in between the Sub & DSSD...it very much needed to be broken out of the shadow of the Sub. That breakout was something I think they missed w/ the SD4K a few years ago. I've got no issues w/ the SD4K other than the fact that I think Rolex played it too safe and didn't make the right call, instead essentially providing a status quo watch that we had for almost 50 yrs. I'm glad they owned that mistake and didn't let 10+ years go before doing the design change they should have done 4 yrs ago.

Kudos Rolex for finally providing a watch to us long-time loyal customers that actually wanted a bigger diver...loyal customers that have owned multiple Subs, SD & DSSD, yet none really being the perfect watch. You don't have to be some "new to Rolex" customer or non-WIS to love the new SD43...I'm a purist in many regards (hate frankenwatches, and love history of past models), but also won't apologize for admitting that sometimes change isn't a bad thing when it's very much overdue.

For some reason on this forum the word "purists" has turned into "I NEVER want to embrace evolution!" You can still love the proud history of past iterations of SDs...this is just another chapter. I contend anyone screaming that the new SD is now ruined is a complete hypocrite. Why? Because unless you're sporting a 1967 SD, your beloved "real" SD is very different from past iterations. Why is a transition from a plexi lens to sapphire okay? Why is an increase in depth rating okay? Why are all the different iterations of dials, fonts, hands, lume, lug & crown guards, bezel material, bracelets, clasps and movements okay...yet now the case growing a few mm and a cyclops applied NOT okay? See the hypocrisy glowing bright as the sun?

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Old 29 March 2017, 05:30 AM   #25
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there is no need to deny the past, everyone loves 1665 16600 ......

even when they changed ceramic/Sub has been very critical

Rolex is looks ahead and I think he does it well
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Old 29 March 2017, 05:32 AM   #26
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I'm not keen on the new SD since I don't like the cyclops and think it's too big like most people. I'm also 95% sure I'll end up owning one within 18 months assuming it doesn't look like a disaster on my wrist. Go figure! I have an SD4K for the days that I want to feel "pure".
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Old 29 March 2017, 05:38 AM   #27
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I like about as much as a Sub C, which is to say NOT at all.
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Old 29 March 2017, 05:39 AM   #28
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travisb I'm anti cyclops on a SD. Kills it for me.

Every time I see the above (and your not the only one) I simply want to say its extremely easy to remove the Cyclops, so if that is truly the only reason then buy it and have it removed yourself, your AD or any decent watchmaker. It takes about 30 seconds.
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Old 29 March 2017, 05:45 AM   #29
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I contend anyone screaming that the new SD is now ruined is a complete hypocrite. Why? Because unless you're sporting a 1967 SD, your beloved "real" SD is very different from past iterations. Why is a transition from a plexi lens to sapphire okay? Why is an increase in depth rating okay? Why are all the different iterations of dials, fonts, hands, lume, lug & crown guards, bezel material, bracelets, clasps and movements okay...yet now the case growing a few mm and a cyclops applied NOT okay? See the hypocrisy glowing bright as the sun?

Not really. From a distance, the 16600 is remarkably similar to the original SD. This new one could never be mistaken for the original SD
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I like about as much as a Sub C, which is to say NOT at all.
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