The new seadweller is pants !

[Nav01L]

Originally Posted by MP5

Is no one concerned that it looks like the cyclops is a cover for actually using a too small of movement and the date is too far towards the center like some off the shelf parts catalog watch? We wont know till its in hand but this could be a lazy arse attempt parts bin watch and a stain on Rolex if it is. Otherwise is the fit is right and the aesthetics look great in person- I will have to have one!

To be honest though that was far more prominent on the 40mm SD4K, where the date window is so far off towards the center of the dial that the ring of indexes looks like an Apple logo... and the worst part is you can never unsee that. I think if anything the cyclops helps balance the dial to an acceptable aesthetic.

[HogwldFLTR]

A guy walks into a Rolex AD and wants a bad a$$ watch; something that has an incredible depth rating and some real heft. He looks at the Subs and says, "nice, yawn." He looks at the Deep Seas and say "really interesting but I really want the cyclops." Now he looks at the 50th anniversary SD and says, "Bingo!!!" Just saying that most Rolex buyers aren't WISs. This isn't a WIS watch, it a bragging rights watch with a cyclops.

[teo]

A WIS walked into the shop looks at 116600 and say " pls take my money thank you"

[VicLeChic]

Originally Posted by HogwldFLTR

A guy walks into a Rolex AD and wants a bad a$$ watch; something that has an incredible depth rating and some real heft. He looks at the Subs and says, "nice, yawn." He looks at the Deep Seas and say "really interesting but I really want the cyclops." Now he looks at the 50th anniversary SD and says, "Bingo!!!" Just saying that most Rolex buyers aren't WISs. This isn't a WIS watch, it a bragging rights watch with a cyclops.

Can this not be applied to any Rolex watch with a date (except for the Deepsea and previous SDs)?

[Psmith]

Originally Posted by VicLeChic

Can this not be applied to any Rolex watch with a date (except for the Deepsea and previous SDs)?

Agreed. This recent vilification of the Cyclops by some as an object to aid 'showing-off' puzzles me. The Cyclops has been around since the 1950s and is used on all models with the date other than the SD variants.

[Seaotter]

Originally Posted by tygerjaxsin

i'm almost certain this watch will sell more than the blnr does. Wait and see

+1

[Seaotter]

Originally Posted by AK797

That's a bold statement... you know what they call a Quarter pounder with cheese in Amsterdam?

No ?! 😁😳

[meganfox17]

Originally Posted by garyfromleeds

ICant believe my eyes ! What have they done , the 43mm case is way too big and the date magnification bubble ?

Your eyes are deceiving you Gary !Many local traders in my country have forecasted it would fetch a huge premium in Malaysia
( pop 30.75 m) and Singapore ( pop 5.76 m ) in addition to Hong Kong (pop 7.35 m ) and mainland China (middle class pop 300 m, that's bigger than the pop of USA ! )

In the Chinese customs and traditions , Red symbolizes Good Luck , long life , happiness and if you're a superstitious Chinese , you'll know Red is the only colour that can ward off Evil Spirits so now , you do the math !

I actually discussed the new Red SD with a lot of the local Chinese dealers. The general consensus is This Red Hot Baby will Sell ! . The " cyclops magnifier bubble wart " and the 43' casing will have no bearing on the sizzling sales expected to hit South East Asia, Hong Kong & China markets

[RaceDoc]

A Royale with cheese. Because of the metric system :) one of my favorite movies

Originally Posted by AK797

That's a bold statement... you know what they call a Quarter pounder with cheese in Amsterdam?

[Speed]

Pants!?!

Keep 'em coming Gary!

[Rolex fan 61]

Sorry folks but I really like it, its all a matter of personal taste.

[watchwatcher]

Originally Posted by Psmith

Brit slang speak (or so I have learned) for something that is no good.
Somewhat confusingly, pants in the UK also refers to underwear!

In Aus, pants = trousers

Originally Posted by AK797

That's a bold statement... you know what they call a Quarter pounder with cheese in Amsterdam?

[Premiumwatches24]

I was writing an article to my blog after I spotted these on Basel, so I really liked it. Even though there are a lot of people complaining that the size of the dial is too big, I find it is really cool to have such an update on 50th anniversary of the line. It had to be something really important and eye-catchy and this worked as well as the cyclopus

[Cabinetman]

I'm not a fan mostly due to the cyclops. I also don't love the size, but I can get over that easier than the cyclops.

I wonder if the 43mm Sea-Dweller is somewhat of a marketing experiment for Rolex? If the SD43 sells really well maybe Rolex will upsize the Sub to 42mm in the next couple of years. I know the folks around here would lose their minds, but it looks like Rolex is willing to break away from tradition if they can sell more watches.

[Cabinetman]

I'm not a fan mostly due to the cyclops. I also don't love the size, but I can get over that easier than the cyclops.

I wonder if the 43mm Sea-Dweller is somewhat of a marketing experiment for Rolex? If the SD43 sells really well maybe Rolex will upsize the Sub to 42mm in the next couple of years. I know the folks around here would lose their minds, but it looks like Rolex is willing to break away from tradition if they can sell more watches.

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by Psmith

Agreed. This recent vilification of the Cyclops by some as an object to aid 'showing-off' puzzles me. The Cyclops has been around since the 1950s and is used on all models with the date other than the SD variants.

People are overlooking the fact that other brands have used the Cyclops as well.

[Psmith]

Originally Posted by Dirt

People are overlooking the fact that other brands have used the Cyclops as well.

Yes, quite right - it's hardly a unique feature.

[samson66]

Originally Posted by Cabinetman

I wonder if the 43mm Sea-Dweller is somewhat of a marketing experiment for Rolex? If the SD43 sells really well maybe Rolex will upsize the Sub to 42mm in the next couple of years. I know the folks around here would lose their minds, but it looks like Rolex is willing to break away from tradition if they can sell more watches.

I was thinking the same thing. If (more like when) the new SD sells like hot cakes, will they consider upsizing the Sub and GMT line? Personally I would love that. 42mm would be perfect in my mind, for me anyway. Wondering if maybe I should hold off for a year and see what if any changes are made to the Sub or GMT line next year? A 42mm SS Coke GMT would be my dream come true.

[SubmarinerSA]

I like it. Like the cyclops feature too - my 50 year old eyes appreciate the help. Each to his own.

[actionkwj]

Originally Posted by RRGHOST1

So we have the Size Police doing the rounds and the Cyclops Police. Its simple, if you don't like the size or the Cyclops, don't buy it. This will sell like hotcakes regardless and know doubt in the UK sold above recommended price.

Exactly and I'd be interested considering I have an 8" wrist.


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[ash5]

Originally Posted by Egelber

I would agree with whomever agrees with me. I love my 114060. I wear it every day. It is a simple yet classic time piece. For some reason or many, I purchased this watch and im so glad I did. The NEW SD43 is a watch I would buy in the future. I like the changes that were made, but i'm NOT a fan of the Cyclops, which is why I didn't buy the SubC date. BUT for some reason I really like that new SD43. So there, I said my peace.

Ditto.

[moby33]

Originally Posted by HogwldFLTR

This isn't a WIS watch, it a bragging rights watch with a cyclops.

Originally Posted by teo

A WIS walked into the shop looks at 116600 and say " pls take my money thank you"

Please see post #68 of this thread. Completely disagree with these statements & mentality. If anything, the more of a WIS you are, the more you appreciate differences, data & spec changes...just gives you more WIS material.

[Nothingfancy01]

it appears based on this thread that as I might be able to get one:)

[breitlings]

This is the first time i heard the phrase "is pants"

I think it will sell well.

[GiantRobot]

Originally Posted by moby33

If they would have done that, I would be writing a rant like yours but for opposite reasons. I applaud Rolex for FINALLY having some balls and not playing it safe by simply slapping some red text on the dial and calling it a "new" SD.

The SD has been the perfect candidate since 2008 for change and offering something in between the Sub & DSSD...it very much needed to be broken out of the shadow of the Sub. That breakout was something I think they missed w/ the SD4K a few years ago. I've got no issues w/ the SD4K other than the fact that I think Rolex played it too safe and didn't make the right call, instead essentially providing a status quo watch that we had for almost 50 yrs. I'm glad they owned that mistake and didn't let 10+ years go before doing the design change they should have done 4 yrs ago.

Kudos Rolex for finally providing a watch to us long-time loyal customers that actually wanted a bigger diver...loyal customers that have owned multiple Subs, SD & DSSD, yet none really being the perfect watch. You don't have to be some "new to Rolex" customer or non-WIS to love the new SD43...I'm a purist in many regards (hate frankenwatches, and love history of past models), but also won't apologize for admitting that sometimes change isn't a bad thing when it's very much overdue.

For some reason on this forum the word "purists" has turned into "I NEVER want to embrace evolution!" You can still love the proud history of past iterations of SDs...this is just another chapter. I contend anyone screaming that the new SD is now ruined is a complete hypocrite. Why? Because unless you're sporting a 1967 SD, your beloved "real" SD is very different from past iterations. Why is a transition from a plexi lens to sapphire okay? Why is an increase in depth rating okay? Why are all the different iterations of dials, fonts, hands, lume, lug & crown guards, bezel material, bracelets, clasps and movements okay...yet now the case growing a few mm and a cyclops applied NOT okay? See the hypocrisy glowing bright as the sun?

I echo your sentiment.

[Bmac187]

Personally, I love this watch and will be buying it. I'm not a purist like you guys. I'm the other guy who is a watch lover that has been waiting for Rolex to make a bigger watch. My Breitlings, Tags and Panerai watches make the typical 40mm Rolex watches look dainty unless you want the DSSD which is too thick. Finally us brand agnostic watch lovers can get a Rolex diver watch and guess what? There's a lot more of me than there are of you purists waiting in line to buy the next cool watch and Rolex did this because they know that too. Cheers to my first Rolex as I've already placed my order.

[Phudu]

Originally Posted by meganfox17

Your eyes are deceiving you Gary !Many local traders in my country have forecasted it would fetch a huge premium in Malaysia
( pop 30.75 m) and Singapore ( pop 5.76 m ) in addition to Hong Kong (pop 7.35 m ) and mainland China (middle class pop 300 m, that's bigger than the pop of USA ! )

In the Chinese customs and traditions , Red symbolizes Good Luck , long life , happiness and if you're a superstitious Chinese , you'll know Red is the only colour that can ward off Evil Spirits so now , you do the math !

I actually discussed the new Red SD with a lot of the local Chinese dealers. The general consensus is This Red Hot Baby will Sell ! . The " cyclops magnifier bubble wart " and the 43' casing will have no bearing on the sizzling sales expected to hit South East Asia, Hong Kong & China markets

I'm total agreed with you Megan. In Asia it is all about who get it first. It is a status symbol for the riches. They don't mind paying the tremendously high premium to obtain this piece, just to show off to their friends.

[Phudu]

Just get it, you will not regret.

[carwash66]

Love my SD4k, but this new one is a must have. Bought my first Rolex, a new 16803 approx. 30 years ago and very soon added a 16613. These two were my only Rolex until the SD4k about a year ago, which then became my daily.
I think it will be a great fit for my almost 8" wrist. Plus, the cyclops will be nice for my 60 year old eyes.

It would be interesting to know how many will own one in a year or so who are adamantly against it now.

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by Bmac187

Personally, I love this watch and will be buying it. I'm not a purist like you guys. I'm the other guy who is a watch lover that has been waiting for Rolex to make a bigger watch. My Breitlings, Tags and Panerai watches make the typical 40mm Rolex watches look dainty unless you want the DSSD which is too thick. Finally us brand agnostic watch lovers can get a Rolex diver watch and guess what? There's a lot more of me than there are of you purists waiting in line to buy the next cool watch and Rolex did this because they know that too. Cheers to my first Rolex as I've already placed my order.

Great stuff
I hope you enjoy your first Rolex