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Old 29 July 2019, 01:22 AM   #61
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Wow. You had it for 4 years before you noticed?? I don’t buy this sorry.

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Old 29 July 2019, 01:36 AM   #62
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Everything is wrong, the bezel font is thin and uneven, green text on the dial, the rehaut doesn’t align properly, the bracelet has overly thick polished center links, the crown on the clasp in poor quality, the print on the clasp is rough and thick. This one is a pretty poor fake
There is some utter nonsense being spouted in this thread. The watch is a genuine early model 116710ln. Yes it has a fake BLNR bezel insert and GMT hand.
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Old 29 July 2019, 01:51 AM   #63
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He must of known it was a fake as he paid for it as a treat for himself as he says.

Not a good friend.


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Old 29 July 2019, 03:09 AM   #64
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you bought a watch off your friends wrist while playing poker?

At least this was a better read than the normal watch out stories centered around getting a watch after your uncle died.
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Old 29 July 2019, 03:27 AM   #65
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There is some utter nonsense being spouted in this thread. The watch is a genuine early model 116710ln. Yes it has a fake BLNR bezel insert and GMT hand.
I disagree. Based on the photos posted, I think the entire watch is fake.
Sorry for the OP, but glad his good friend righted the wrong.
Not sure why he didn’t just do side by side photos with his other one though.
Sometimes these threads take strange turns.
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Old 29 July 2019, 03:47 AM   #66
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I hope this picture let’s everyone focus back on the real conversation. I just didn’t check the watch at all when he gave it to me.

With a collection like that, it’s not surprising you didn’t bother to check. I’m sure you assumed the other players were up to suitable standards.
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Old 29 July 2019, 03:54 AM   #67
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It’s a garbage fake but i get it. Playing cards, probably not well lit room, not focusing on every single detail of the watch. I wanna see the card table, their must have been some serious cash there! That collection is so good!


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Old 29 July 2019, 04:45 AM   #68
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There are so many problems with that watch,all of the above.Most noticeable is the lack of serial number at six o clock and Rehaut spacing.
Check if there is a coronet etched at the six position?Are there any papers?
Would give it back to your friend ASAP.
It has a serial number at six and the crown is etched there but I can't really see the dots. No papers.

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All of you questioning his friendship; read the entire thread or don't comment.
All of you saying full watch is fake; do your due diligence before commenting.

This thread is making lots of people look like fools.

To my beginner eyes it looks like a real LN with aftermarket bezel insert to look like the batman, and after reading comments from trusted posters; going to agree with this.

Nice that you are getting your money back. Nice collection as always :)
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This is amazing, this is your collection?
Yes sir!

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Going by your picture, don't you already have two BLNR's in your collection for comparison?
I have 3, two of them are the 2019 Basel release and the other one I don't have it with me.

I did compare it with my 2019 GMT II LN but I assumed this could be an earlier version with some differences on the bracelet and dial.

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And a Pepsi. Would have been my first reaction, rather than throwing to the sharks at Rolexforums...
I spent almost two hours looking at pictures, videos and comparing it with my other watches before I came here.

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What case is that?
Pelican case for 32 watches, I believe this one is the same:

https://www.amazon.com/Case-Club-Wat.../dp/B01D3HCLRQ

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Wow. You had it for 4 years before you noticed?? I don’t buy this sorry.
My friend had it for four years and his knowledge about watches is very limited.

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He must of known it was a fake as he paid for it as a treat for himself as he says.

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No, he didn't know for sure.

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I disagree. Based on the photos posted, I think the entire watch is fake.
Sorry for the OP, but glad his good friend righted the wrong.
Not sure why he didn’t just do side by side photos with his other one though.
Sometimes these threads take strange turns.
I really see something off on the clasp... I'm just not an expert, I'm going to take it to my AD tomorrow to check it with them.

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It’s a garbage fake but i get it. Playing cards, probably not well lit room, not focusing on every single detail of the watch. I wanna see the card table, their must have been some serious cash there! That collection is so good!


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I didn't even look at the watch that night. It's a friendly game with some cool people but nothing serious... $500 to 2k buy ins, cash game. Thanks
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Old 29 July 2019, 06:17 AM   #69
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So how much you want to sell it for?
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Old 29 July 2019, 08:55 AM   #70
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So you have three BLNRs, but three months ago you had none?

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=672207
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Old 29 July 2019, 09:21 AM   #71
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You couldn’t be more wrong.

The watch is a genuine 116710LN with a fake bezel insert and GMT hand.
I’ll make sure not to rely on you for expertise.
Nothing real about that entire watch.
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Old 29 July 2019, 10:59 AM   #72
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So you have three BLNRs, but three months ago you had none?

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=672207


Correct, I bought more than 10 watches since that post.


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Old 29 July 2019, 11:05 AM   #73
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Correct, I bought more than 10 watches since that post.


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All genuine?

Saying "I know I don’t have a Batman... but it’s so similar to anything I have already... isn’t it crazy to buy the same watch with just different colors?" then suddenly having three the same seems a bit strange.
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Old 29 July 2019, 11:27 AM   #74
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Hand stack looks correct to me
Bezel is fake as is case, dial and bracelet (I suspect)
Would love to see the movement - I have a feeling its genuine as there were NO correct "fake" hand stack movements even 2 years ago.

This is a genuine ROLEX movement in fake case, bracelet and dial.

Lets see a photo of movement or at least engraving between lugs at 12 O Clock
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Old 29 July 2019, 11:37 AM   #75
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Did I buy a fake BLNR?

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All genuine?

Saying "I know I don’t have a Batman... but it’s so similar to anything I have already... isn’t it crazy to buy the same watch with just different colors?" then suddenly having three the same seems a bit strange.


Well, I had the opportunity to buy three of them within few days and I couldn’t say no. What are you trying to find?
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Old 29 July 2019, 11:37 AM   #76
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Hand stack looks correct to me

Bezel is fake as is case, dial and bracelet (I suspect)

Would love to see the movement - I have a feeling its genuine as there were NO correct "fake" hand stack movements even 2 years ago.



This is a genuine ROLEX movement in fake case, bracelet and dial.



Lets see a photo of movement or at least engraving between lugs at 12 O Clock

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I’m going to visit my AD tomorrow, I’ll make sure to post some photos of the movement. Thanks!


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Old 29 July 2019, 11:41 AM   #77
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I’m going to visit my AD tomorrow, I’ll make sure to post some photos of the movement. Thanks!


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Thanks - Photo of the balance wheel, and a photo of the movement serial number (on bottom plate) would be awesome and VERY helpful

Engraved number on case at 12 very useful too
Thanks again
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Old 29 July 2019, 11:42 AM   #78
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Old 29 July 2019, 11:49 AM   #79
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Well, I had the opportunity to buy three of them within few days and I couldn’t say no. What are you trying to find?
Make your mind up.
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Old 29 July 2019, 11:52 AM   #80
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Make your mind up.


I wrote that first because I wasn’t in the mood to answer people that try to somehow prove that I’m lying or something, then since I consider myself a respectful and educated person I edited it.

Again, what are you trying to find?


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Old 29 July 2019, 12:07 PM   #81
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I think Adam is doing his job as a Mod - seeking truth.

Sometimes there are wacky stories that are true.

Other times there are normal stories that aren’t true.


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Old 29 July 2019, 02:22 PM   #82
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I’ll make sure not to rely on you for expertise.
Nothing real about that entire watch.
You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about, along with 95% of the posters in this thread.

Do you care to explain what’s not real about the case, rehaut engravings, dial, crystal, bracelet, clasp, hands (except the GMT hand) or are you just jumping on the band wagon?

I suspect the latter, as you clearly haven’t got a clue what you’re looking at.
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Old 29 July 2019, 03:18 PM   #83
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I think Adam is doing his job as a Mod - seeking truth.

Sometimes there are wacky stories that are true.

Other times there are normal stories that aren’t true.


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Seems like an odd comment. Less than three years ago you were asking about a case back authenticity on a fairly basic watch. Then, every thread you created after was either warning about fakes or posting feedback from purchases.


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Old 29 July 2019, 03:41 PM   #84
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If nothing else, this forum always helps me see how the other half live, would have been a hell of a game of poker.
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Old 29 July 2019, 03:48 PM   #85
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Whoa, everyone!!!
I know I’m a relative new comer, but this thread is getting pretty hot under the collar!!
Lots of inferences and nasty antagonism!!

Everyone’s interested in the story for many reasons. First, because I don’t think most of us can fathom the amount of money that the OP deals with. That case and his collection, puts him in a league far above most of us. ( I can’t WAIT to hear the response that comes from that statement… !!).
That comment is no way disparaging! More power to him, and I’m envious of some of his beautiful toys. . . But I’m finding it interesting that so many of the posters want to try to “catch him in his story” or in someway show him to be dishonest. It’s all just silly.
He owns-up to the fact that he bought this during a poker game, from an old friend who doesn’t know anything about watches. (Wow!… I’d love to know what great wines they were drinking! ). It’s a interesting and somewhat humorous tale!

So let’s wait until we get the photos from his AD and we’ll have more to talk about.
But can we tone down the rhetoric just a little? The accusations are pretty intense, and we are all on this forum for similar reasons. Let’s just have fun, OK?
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Old 29 July 2019, 04:30 PM   #86
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The numbers on the bezel are painted on. Not engraved and platinum sprayed. It shouldn't chip off like that. It's a fake. End of.

I don't know mrN, but looking at his previous posts (that I've participated in), he's a certified "baller". I guess that could get people's knickers in a tangle and not able to fathom someone out there is able to pay 100,150,200K for a watch. Guy bought it off his friend (who btw is a loser for wearing a fake, and I certainly hope he gets cut from the friendship group after the money has been repaid) and wasn't told it was a fake. We can't all be experts, especially during poker and 10 drinks down throughout a night of play.
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Old 29 July 2019, 04:33 PM   #87
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You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about, along with 95% of the posters in this thread.

Do you care to explain what’s not real about the case, rehaut engravings, dial, crystal, bracelet, clasp, hands (except the GMT hand) or are you just jumping on the band wagon?

I suspect the latter, as you clearly haven’t got a clue what you’re looking at.
The chapter ring is way off.
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Since my post was deleted; I will rephrase.

I suggest we keep an open mind on the legitimacy until proven otherwise. OP seems to have a collection far above the rest of us.

Throwing around a BLNR at a poker game is not far fetched.
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The chapter ring is way off.
It’s an early 116710ln poorly converted to a BLNR with fake parts. The rehaut engraving design has been changed on these watches. It’s perfect for the period. Have a look at 2008-2011ish models and look at the engravings. They’ll be exactly the same; dark double engraved. They then changed to a lighter, double engraving around 2012. They were then changed again to what we have today, laser engraved.

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2008 rehaut engraving the same as this watch:



2012 lighter double engraved:



2016 Current style laser engraved:

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Old 29 July 2019, 05:06 PM   #90
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The numbers on the bezel are painted on. Not engraved and platinum sprayed. It shouldn't chip off like that. It's a fake. End of.
If you bothered to read the whole thread you’d see that the authenticity of the bezel insert and GMT hand isn’t disputed anywhere. It’s clear as day the bezel insert is fake and more than likely the GMT hand. The watch however is genuine.
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