The Rolex Forums   The Rolex Watch

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

Old 1 April 2020, 09:32 AM   #1
kans86
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Berlin
Posts: 682
5711 year 2006 or 2019?

I am being offered these two. Both are in mint condition, full set. The one from 2019 is in slightly better condition and still under warranty. The one from 2006 has never been serviced. The price difference is about 11k USD.

Could 5711 owners/enthusiasts tell what would be your choice and why? As far as I know there are some aesthetic and technical differences among the two. Thanks
kans86 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1 April 2020, 10:02 AM   #2
francoamerican
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: bay area
Posts: 182
Does the 2019 have the brand new LIGA movement ?
francoamerican is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1 April 2020, 10:17 AM   #3
ts3
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Europe
Posts: 896
Couple of thoughts...

1) The 2006 will have Cal 315 or 324 and the 2019 will have Cal 324 or the current 330. Cal 330 is hacking while 315 and 324 are not. The 5711 w the 3Hz 315 is quite rare and has slightly more power reserve vs the 4Hz 324 and 330.

2) The 2006 has the Geneva Seal and screwed bracelet links whereas the 2019 has the Patek Seal and pins to connect the links.

3) Service cost is around USD 1.5k - you can check the exact figure on the German Patek website. I have been happy w the Munich Service Center so far and drop off stuff myself.

If the difference in condition is minimal I'd likely get the 2006 watch and save USD 9+k accounting for a service. It has the Geneva Seal and the screws in the bracelet which I prefer. It won't have hacking seconds like one of the later 2019 models with Cal 330 but that doesn't matter to me.
ts3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1 April 2020, 10:18 AM   #4
kans86
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Berlin
Posts: 682
Quote:
Originally Posted by francoamerican View Post
Does the 2019 have the brand new LIGA movement ?
Yes, it has the new movement with hacking feature.
kans86 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1 April 2020, 10:38 AM   #5
thomaspp
"TRF" Member
 
thomaspp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: N/A
Posts: 11,037
Hope they are cheap...


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
Instagram: @watches_anonymous
thomaspp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1 April 2020, 10:54 AM   #6
kans86
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Berlin
Posts: 682
Quote:
Originally Posted by thomaspp View Post
Hope they are cheap...


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
About 20-25% lower than normal grey prices few months ago.
kans86 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1 April 2020, 10:56 AM   #7
kans86
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Berlin
Posts: 682
Quote:
Originally Posted by ts3 View Post
Couple of thoughts...

1) The 2006 will have Cal 315 or 324 and the 2019 will have Cal 324 or the current 330. Cal 330 is hacking while 315 and 324 are not. The 5711 w the 3Hz 315 is quite rare and has slightly more power reserve vs the 4Hz 324 and 330.

2) The 2006 has the Geneva Seal and screwed bracelet links whereas the 2019 has the Patek Seal and pins to connect the links.

3) Service cost is around USD 1.5k - you can check the exact figure on the German Patek website. I have been happy w the Munich Service Center so far and drop off stuff myself.

If the difference in condition is minimal I'd likely get the 2006 watch and save USD 9+k accounting for a service. It has the Geneva Seal and the screws in the bracelet which I prefer. It won't have hacking seconds like one of the later 2019 models with Cal 330 but that doesn't matter to me.
Thank you for the insights. How about cosmetic variants?
kans86 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1 April 2020, 11:21 AM   #8
chmhill
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: USA
Watch: PP
Posts: 189
2019
chmhill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1 April 2020, 11:24 AM   #9
Muxi
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Philippines
Posts: 1,757
2019
Muxi is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 1 April 2020, 11:29 AM   #10
cozy2009
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: NYC
Watch: 5070
Posts: 148
Geneva seal
cozy2009 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1 April 2020, 11:36 AM   #11
francoamerican
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: bay area
Posts: 182
The % off would be a factor me personally.

So if it’s 60 vs 50 2019 for certain

or 50 vs 40 probably 2006
francoamerican is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1 April 2020, 12:41 PM   #12
thomaspp
"TRF" Member
 
thomaspp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: N/A
Posts: 11,037
Quote:
Originally Posted by kans86 View Post
About 20-25% lower than normal grey prices few months ago.


Ugh sounds expensive


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
Instagram: @watches_anonymous
thomaspp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1 April 2020, 02:00 PM   #13
Ichiran
"TRF" Member
 
Ichiran's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Real Name: Michael
Location: Ramen queue
Watch: Mostly blue dials
Posts: 2,876
Why don't you buy it brand new from AD at MSRP, or even better, at a discount?
Ichiran is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1 April 2020, 02:04 PM   #14
tyngshen
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: united kingdom
Posts: 103
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichiran View Post
Why don't you buy it brand new from AD at MSRP, or even better, at a discount?
+1, wouldn't be buying over retail right now
tyngshen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1 April 2020, 02:25 PM   #15
Ichiran
"TRF" Member
 
Ichiran's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Real Name: Michael
Location: Ramen queue
Watch: Mostly blue dials
Posts: 2,876
.
Ichiran is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1 April 2020, 02:42 PM   #16
francoamerican
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: bay area
Posts: 182
DM me if any dealers have 5711 at retail. (Lol)
francoamerican is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1 April 2020, 04:22 PM   #17
yoast
2020 Pledge Member
 
yoast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: EU+ASIA
Posts: 1,290
Quote:
Originally Posted by tyngshen View Post
+1, wouldn't be buying over retail right now
+2
__________________
IG: @yoast.watch
https://www.instagram.com/yoast.watch/
yoast is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1 April 2020, 05:28 PM   #18
cascavel
2020 Pledge Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: New York
Posts: 627
For a net discount of $9K, after movement service: 2006. Keep in mind that it will probably need a service immediately to function properly.
cascavel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1 April 2020, 05:51 PM   #19
mongrelnomoad
2020 Pledge Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Here and there...
Posts: 604
Quote:
Originally Posted by francoamerican View Post
DM me if any dealers have 5711 at retail. (Lol)
Hey, I was here first!

Lol.
mongrelnomoad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1 April 2020, 06:49 PM   #20
ts3
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Europe
Posts: 896
Quote:
Originally Posted by kans86 View Post
Thank you for the insights. How about cosmetic variants?
The logo on the dial was updated in 2018, Cal 330 has a different rotor shape from the 315 and 324, and the dials are supposed to have came in slightly different colors over time. Around 2009 there was also the so-called LED dial with wider stripes but that won't matter for 2006 vs 2019.
ts3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2 April 2020, 12:57 AM   #21
cascavel
2020 Pledge Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: New York
Posts: 627
Quote:
Originally Posted by ts3 View Post
The logo on the dial was updated in 2018, Cal 330 has a different rotor shape from the 315 and 324, and the dials are supposed to have came in slightly different colors over time. Around 2009 there was also the so-called LED dial with wider stripes but that won't matter for 2006 vs 2019.
I think you are correct about the dial color, too. The newer dials are a brighter, more sapphire color whereas the earlier blue 5711 dials are flatter and matte.
cascavel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2 April 2020, 04:41 AM   #22
AK797
"TRF" Member
 
AK797's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Real Name: Neil
Location: UK
Watch: ing ships roll in
Posts: 55,910
New mvmnt, new dial for me.
AK797 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2 April 2020, 05:07 AM   #23
francoamerican
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: bay area
Posts: 182
Quote:
Originally Posted by ts3 View Post
The logo on the dial was updated in 2018, Cal 330 has a different rotor shape from the 315 and 324, and the dials are supposed to have came in slightly different colors over time. Around 2009 there was also the so-called LED dial with wider stripes but that won't matter for 2006 vs 2019.
I forgot about that logo change. I definitely prefer the smaller logo. Id lean 2006 now
francoamerican is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2 April 2020, 05:38 AM   #24
gqmagic
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Near LA
Posts: 163
2006 and save the money

February 2010 model
gqmagic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2 April 2020, 05:46 AM   #25
Fat_ninja
"TRF" Member
 
Fat_ninja's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2018
Real Name: Jonathan
Location: USA
Watch: P-01
Posts: 11,776
Personally I’d wait
__________________
Instagram: really_fat_ninja

http://www.instagram.com/really_fat_ninja/
Fat_ninja is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2 April 2020, 11:55 AM   #26
Johndong888
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Real Name: John
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Watch: PAM 372
Posts: 300
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fat_ninja View Post
Personally Id wait

WHOA WHO IS THIS DUDE


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Johndong888 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2 April 2020, 12:11 PM   #27
Fat_ninja
"TRF" Member
 
Fat_ninja's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2018
Real Name: Jonathan
Location: USA
Watch: P-01
Posts: 11,776
Quote:
Originally Posted by Johndong888 View Post
WHOA WHO IS THIS DUDE


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Take my advice...

Blend the Donuts into the coffee. Lol
__________________
Instagram: really_fat_ninja

http://www.instagram.com/really_fat_ninja/
Fat_ninja is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 April 2020, 07:48 AM   #28
HauteHorlogerie
"TRF" Member
 
HauteHorlogerie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: My house
Watch: 5164A Tiffany
Posts: 1,119
2019
HauteHorlogerie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 April 2020, 07:52 AM   #29
GB-man
2020 Rolex BLNR Giveaway Pledge Member
 
GB-man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: On the run
Watch: addiction issues
Posts: 30,049
Whichever one is 11k less. No brainer
__________________
Instagram @theuncaught1
"Pleasure delayed is pleasure doubled" - Neil (AK797)
GB-man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4 April 2020, 10:11 PM   #30
Daytonaman799
2020 Pledge Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: NYC/South Fl
Watch: Rolex, Patek
Posts: 2,263
Id wait. I think those prices are going lower. However, between the two...2006. Geneva Seal, screws much better IMHO.
Daytonaman799 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


*Banners Of The Month*
This space is provided to horological resources.





Copyright 2004-2019, The Rolex Forums. All Rights Reserved.

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

Rolex is a registered trademark of ROLEX USA. The Rolex Forums is not affiliated with ROLEX USA in any way.